Project Blown TL Type S is underway

Old 12-30-2008, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ndabunka
Huh? Aren't there like 20+ guys with the Comp-Tech SuperCharger already up and running (for more than 2 years now)? I realize that you need an ECU programmed from Comptech to get the maximum out of these or you can alternately tune (a bit) by using eManage Blue. What's SO different here? Has anyone tried doing the Turbo yet?
What's different is that the "20+" folks you speak of is for the base 3.2 TL.
s_heng_62 is doing this for te 3.5 TL-S... which people have not tried--until now.

As for turbo... I think there's a turbo thread somewhere that someone is trying to work out.
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You are the man! (or woman! idk) Props for giving this a shot.
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Originally Posted by s_heng_62
Subsonicman1-

ecu code has been cracked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



How "cracked"? Re-flashable?
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94


How "cracked"? Re-flashable?
Yes reflashable!!..and with that being done you can fine tune any TL,TL-S, and so on to get the most out of the intake and exhaust,blower,ect- bolt on's.

S heng who cracked it and would love to get my MDX tuned!!,with the mods I've done so far.TY.

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Originally Posted by 09MDX
Yes reflashable!!..and with that being done you can fine tune any TL,TL-S, and so on to get the most out of the intake and exhaust,blower,ect- bolt on's.

S heng who cracked it and would love to get my MDX tuned!!,with the mods I've done so far.TY.
Get the Fk outta here.

Guys are *dying* for this. Somebody needs to post up how to make it happen for the man in the street. Group Buy, etc.
Old 12-30-2008, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by s_heng_62
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ecu code has been cracked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Care to elaborate?
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Old 12-30-2008, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CleanCL
Care to elaborate?
+1

"Cracking" a Honda ECU wasn't the difficult part, at least in the sense of having access to the fuel/ignition tables. Creating an EMS that will work with the drive-by-wire system and not disable half the cars features is the problem. I've been bugging a friend about it (who created a widely known EMS system for B-Series on Hondas) to look into the TL but the demand/market just isn't there to invest the time and money. I'm sure that's why Hondata never went through with their work on the TL.

Hondata recently released K-Pro for the TSX which utilizes both the stock ECU and the K-Pro module which work in cohesion, allowing for full adjustment of the fuel tables, ignition tables, and other engine parameters, without farking up everything else. Likely that will be the route that needs to be taken if anyone ever decides to create something for the TL.

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im curious to see what the comptech ACM does on the 3.5L .... speculations were that it would do absolutely nothing... but let's see :wishes:
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very curious to see how this turns out and need details on how to crack and tune our ecu????
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hey did you get the hood trim?
Yeah I got it today, thanks for being soo quick!
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subscribed. Pretty excited for you actually, and I might need to start my supercharger savings fund. haha.
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waiting.... for pics
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Sweet!!! Can't wait to see the results
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Originally Posted by eluzion
+1

"Cracking" a Honda ECU wasn't the difficult part, at least in the sense of having access to the fuel/ignition tables. Creating an EMS that will work with the drive-by-wire system and not disable half the cars features is the problem. I've been bugging a friend about it (who created a widely known EMS system for B-Series on Hondas) to look into the TL but the demand/market just isn't there to invest the time and money. I'm sure that's why Hondata never went through with their work on the TL.

Hondata recently released K-Pro for the TSX which utilizes both the stock ECU and the K-Pro module which work in cohesion, allowing for full adjustment of the fuel tables, ignition tables, and other engine parameters, without farking up everything else. Likely that will be the route that needs to be taken if anyone ever decides to create something for the TL.
well the kpro is actually using an flashed ecu from another car, along with the tsx ecu... thus running 2 ecu's

along time ago, i had the crazy idea to run an aem ems... but not as a stand-alone but as a piggyback... similar to how hondata does for the kpro... ps tsx kpro is almost $2k
Old 12-31-2008, 10:45 AM
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Subsonicman-i have the key to the ecu, and i will never tell!!!!!hahaha i real life, it wasnt that hard

chris porter
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Originally Posted by dan.....k
BTW, I have a High Boost Pulley for sale if your interested.
wow SC'in a TL-S is one thing, i wonder what the HBP will do for it too... man that would be a sight...
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^^It depends on the blower. If he's using the same blower that comptech makes for the 3.2, the high boost pulley would help offset the higher displacement of the type S. IDK what the HBP is rated at (7psi?), but the blower would make a little less that its rating. Problem is, the more the air is compressed, the hotter it gets too leading to lower efficiency. A custom made pulley would be ideal.
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I'm thinking the hbp w/ the overdrive pulley
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Originally Posted by s_heng_62
Subsonicman-i have the key to the ecu, and i will never tell!!!!!hahaha i real life, it wasnt that hard

chris porter

Who the heck is "subsonicman"?






Al, is that your nickname over at clubtsx or clubevo or where ever the hell you're starting to hang out now? :wink:
Old 12-31-2008, 12:09 PM
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no, he's the man with the knowledge to finesse the ecu into playing nice
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Originally Posted by s_heng_62
no, he's the man with the knowledge to finesse the ecu into playing nice


http://www.subsonicmotorsports.com/

Thanks for sharing.
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so how is everything going? you are real close to me.... and if you've got an expert tuner in your area, i will need to be using him as well!!

Also, the HBP is a good idea, since the regular pulley that makes (4-5psi) will probably only make 3-4psi with the change of displacement from 3.2L to 3.5L...

are you installing a boost gauage? a/f gauge?
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updated pics. http://s435.photobucket.com/albums/qq73/s_heng_62/

he just started puttin his site togethor
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will be putting both gauges in, yes.
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that shop looks familiar.... who did the install?
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Originally Posted by s_heng_62
updated pics. http://s435.photobucket.com/albums/qq73/s_heng_62/

he just started puttin his site togethor
It's cool.

Seriously, he needs to think about becoming a vendor here. Guy's will eat up an ECU reflash. *Especially* if he can do S/C and non-S/C.
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i dont hear the whine??? is it just mine, or as those drive-bys before the S/C

and that shop is josh's, isnt it?
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yeah, that's just the intake and exhaust. yeah, that is josh's shop down in branford
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nice... ive spent many many hours in josh's shop with my blackura... did he put the blower in? quality work from a good guy
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no, chris porter at subsonic motorsports is doing the work
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cant wait for the results bro...kudos to you for doing this... i was on the verge of it, but the ACM/tuning slowed me down....

have you considered j-pipe or pre-cat deletes?... with all those, and 6spd tranny.. you should be making 350whp

another guy (types09) made 327whp with the 3.2L and those mods... so figure, HBP and the extra .3L / 28hp = around 355-360ish depending on the dyno used
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very niceee, damn we have a baller!!!

cant wait to c that blower workin on that TL-S
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Originally Posted by o4Komodo
What's different is that the "20+" folks you speak of is for the base 3.2 TL.
s_heng_62 is doing this for te 3.5 TL-S... which people have not tried--until now.

As for turbo... I think there's a turbo thread somewhere that someone is trying to work out.
Ah, thanks for setting me straight. I didn't see the "Type-S" designation in my first review. Good to see work continuing with the S-type development.
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definitely consider precat deletes, test pipe, jpipe combo, they will all come in very handy..Good luck.
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naw, we're takin the day off today. will be back at it tomorrow though.

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