Ported intake runners..

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 14, 2009 | 12:04 AM
  #1  
04_6SPEEDTL's Avatar
Thread Starter
I mod my car in
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 87
Likes: 1
From: Long Island
Ported intake runners..

Has anyone done this to thier TL? Here is the link:

http://powerrevextras.com/catalog/pr...roducts_id=151

Any good gains from this? Correct me if i am wrong but we can cram as much air as we want into our motors but dont we need more fuel to back it up and get good power? Also i think we should all try to get a company to make a tune for our cars (i called hondata directly a few months ago and the guy said he doesnt have any plans for our motors & he was a real dick too) & on top of that how about accessory pully's? Just some idea's
Reply
Old Sep 14, 2009 | 12:08 AM
  #2  
jjashaa's Avatar
Avant Garde Wheels
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 14,026
Likes: 349
From: Cypress, CA
i believe hondata already tried a tune with a 3.5 swap? and ended up blowing the motor..

but i'm not sure.. i haven't really read anything on it since im not a 3G.. lol

but those ported intake runners should give you a good amount of gains.. should port your IM and TB as well. =]

or i should say free up some power..
Reply
Old Sep 14, 2009 | 12:19 AM
  #3  
Grizzle's Avatar
Advanced
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 81
Likes: 0
From: Minneapolis
Reply
Old Sep 14, 2009 | 01:54 PM
  #4  
I hate cars's Avatar
Team Owner
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 20,172
Likes: 1,818
From: Bakersfield
Ported runners should be done with ported heads, plenum, and throttlebody. Basically air filter to exhaust. They all complement one another. I'm sure you'll gain a little hp but it probably wouldn't be worth the price.

More air= more power. If you do just the runners, there won't be enough extra air to require a retune. The long term fuel trim may change a couple percent to compensate.
Reply
Old Sep 14, 2009 | 09:45 PM
  #5  
OLD_HATCH's Avatar
Three Wheelin'
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,491
Likes: 65
dont forget cams. If your freeing up all this space for some extra volume of air better make sure it makes it into the cumbustion chamber.
Reply
Old Sep 14, 2009 | 10:47 PM
  #6  
Sonnick's Avatar
All motor
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,530
Likes: 533
From: Long Island
^^ Word. I feel like high CR and aftermarket cams is all this car needs to really pull. The PC deletes are the best BFTB (bang for the buck) mod for sure, but I feel like cams and high CR even if all else is stock would yield GREAT gains. Brett, with a J33 5AT 7th gen AV6 reported 45whp gains after compression and TL-s cams. TL-s cams are more aggressive than the Accords and TL obviously, but I'm sure that number would increase 10+hp with a set of Bisimoto cams.

Ant, the ported runners should help the low end if I'm not mistaken, but as said, would really only be 'noticeable' if you did all of them together. Who knows tho?

How are the PC's treatin ya? You get on the highway yet or what
Reply
Old Sep 15, 2009 | 11:12 AM
  #7  
I hate cars's Avatar
Team Owner
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 20,172
Likes: 1,818
From: Bakersfield
You guys are totally right, I forgot larger cams and possible higher rev limit.

Only thing is, the 11:1 compression is already pushing the limits of pump gas. Anymore and the car requires race gas.
Reply
Old Sep 15, 2009 | 08:35 PM
  #8  
OLD_HATCH's Avatar
Three Wheelin'
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,491
Likes: 65
true

you might be able to push it another half a point but thats just really pushing it. (for a daily anyway)



Honestly though forced induction is the way to go if you want power. Honda already does a good job at getting all they can out of these engines. They actually do very well in getting the combination just right too. Usually all those porting and freeing up intake and exhaust tracks only get you top end (4500+rpm) while hurting your low end.



and in the end youll wind up paying big money for like 20-40 whp increase while the same money spent on boost will get you at least 60+ whp. (with the right tune of course)



I say if you want a bit more pep, than the port job etc will help you get there when combined with suppoting mods. If you want more power FI is the way to go.
Reply
Old Sep 15, 2009 | 10:21 PM
  #9  
I hate cars's Avatar
Team Owner
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 20,172
Likes: 1,818
From: Bakersfield
You could always go really large on the cams and get away with a little more compression. Then you may have emissions worries lol.
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 08:58 PM
  #10  
Sonnick's Avatar
All motor
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,530
Likes: 533
From: Long Island
RSX-s are 11:1, they seem to do well on pump gas. I'd estimate the TL/Accord V6 6MTs could see easily 80-100whp on NA performance mods. I/E/Jpipe/PC by itself is around 30whp, being moderate. Add cams and 11:1 CR, that's another 40 for a total of around 65. These cars can be beasts NA as well, especially with the 3.5-3.7L swaps.

There is no reason the stock block 3.0 Accord/3.2TL can't see 300whp NA..with ease.
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 09:01 PM
  #11  
I hate cars's Avatar
Team Owner
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 20,172
Likes: 1,818
From: Bakersfield
Originally Posted by Sonnick
RSX-s are 11:1, they seem to do well on pump gas. I'd estimate the TL/Accord V6 6MTs could see easily 80-100whp on NA performance mods. I/E/Jpipe/PC by itself is around 30whp, being moderate. Add cams and 11:1 CR, that's another 40 for a total of around 65. These cars can be beasts NA as well, especially with the 3.5-3.7L swaps.

There is no reason the stock block 3.0 Accord/3.2TL can't see 300whp NA..with ease.
The TL is already 11:1 from the factory.
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 09:34 PM
  #12  
04_6SPEEDTL's Avatar
Thread Starter
I mod my car in
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 87
Likes: 1
From: Long Island
Originally Posted by Sonnick

How are the PC's treatin ya? You get on the highway yet or what
They are good, i notice an all around difference its just so hard to get over that raspy sound. It sounds great until that rasp comes along; i gotta get a resonator in hopes of getting rid of that sound.
Reply
Old May 11, 2010 | 12:07 PM
  #13  
Ryons02TLTypeS's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 186
Likes: 0
From: Queens, NY
Originally Posted by I hate cars
The TL is already 11:1 from the factory.
sorry incorrect... 10.5:1 02-03 TL-S
Reply
Old May 11, 2010 | 12:18 PM
  #14  
justnspace's Avatar
Moderator
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 86,293
Likes: 16,291
Originally Posted by Ryons02TLTypeS
sorry incorrect... 10.5:1 02-03 TL-S

Sorry, incorrect. we are in the 3rd Gen. which is 11:1
Reply
Old May 11, 2010 | 12:25 PM
  #15  
Ryons02TLTypeS's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 186
Likes: 0
From: Queens, NY
Originally Posted by justnspace
Sorry, incorrect. we are in the 3rd Gen. which is 11:1
that sucks... they increased compression and lost 2 HP.. nice...
Reply
Old May 11, 2010 | 01:36 PM
  #16  
EL19's Avatar
Suzuka Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,340
Likes: 194
From: DC
No because the 258HP claimed by the 3rd gen TLP is with the new standards of measuring HP while the 260HP on the 2nd gen TLS is with the old standards. The 2nd gen TLS 3.2L is more like 245HP. So Acura made 13HP or so on a bumped up compression & slightly different configuration.
Reply
Old May 11, 2010 | 11:56 PM
  #17  
I hate cars's Avatar
Team Owner
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 20,172
Likes: 1,818
From: Bakersfield
Originally Posted by Ryons02TLTypeS
that sucks... they increased compression and lost 2 HP.. nice...
Do you get tired of inserting your foot in your mouth?
Reply
Old May 12, 2010 | 12:40 AM
  #18  
phee's Avatar
I got the Shifts
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 14,203
Likes: 231
at least i do research before i post in 3g...
Reply
Old May 12, 2010 | 07:07 AM
  #19  
vill0169's Avatar
AZ Track Whore
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,674
Likes: 298
From: Omaha, NE
Isn't it great that he also resurrected this 9 month old thread just to be wrong? GO BACK TO YOUR OWN FORUM!
Reply
Old May 12, 2010 | 09:43 AM
  #20  
linky33's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 215
Likes: 0
From: Ashburn, Va
lols
Reply
Old May 13, 2010 | 10:48 AM
  #21  
Ryons02TLTypeS's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 186
Likes: 0
From: Queens, NY
Originally Posted by I hate cars
Do you get tired of inserting your foot in your mouth?
no because this a forum... about discussing certain topics... so again NO....
Reply
Old May 13, 2010 | 10:49 AM
  #22  
Ryons02TLTypeS's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 186
Likes: 0
From: Queens, NY
Originally Posted by L's TL
No because the 258HP claimed by the 3rd gen TLP is with the new standards of measuring HP while the 260HP on the 2nd gen TLS is with the old standards. The 2nd gen TLS 3.2L is more like 245HP. So Acura made 13HP or so on a bumped up compression & slightly different configuration.
that doesnt make sense. Because the newer 3.0 in the 06-07 accords are 240HP..
Reply
Old May 13, 2010 | 10:51 AM
  #23  
Ryons02TLTypeS's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 186
Likes: 0
From: Queens, NY
Originally Posted by vill0169
Isn't it great that he also resurrected this 9 month old thread just to be wrong? GO BACK TO YOUR OWN FORUM!
MYOB mr. 19 post guy...
Reply
Old May 13, 2010 | 10:53 AM
  #24  
Ryons02TLTypeS's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 186
Likes: 0
From: Queens, NY
any of you 07-08 TL-S every raced a 02-03 TL-S..?
Reply
Old May 13, 2010 | 11:06 AM
  #25  
justnspace's Avatar
Moderator
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 86,293
Likes: 16,291
Originally Posted by Ryons02TLTypeS
no because this a forum... about discussing certain topics... so again NO....
Originally Posted by Ryons02TLTypeS
any of you 07-08 TL-S every raced a 02-03 TL-S..?

And this thread is about ported intake runners...I do believe you have foot in mouth disease.
Reply
Old May 13, 2010 | 11:18 AM
  #26  
Ryons02TLTypeS's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 186
Likes: 0
From: Queens, NY
Originally Posted by justnspace
And this thread is about ported intake runners...I do believe you have foot in mouth disease.
how about u just STFU... because i wasnt talking to you....
Reply
Old May 13, 2010 | 11:18 AM
  #27  
Ryons02TLTypeS's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 186
Likes: 0
From: Queens, NY
Originally Posted by justnspace
And this thread is about ported intake runners...I do believe you have foot in mouth disease.
stupid comments like that can be left to yourself...
Reply
Old May 13, 2010 | 11:30 AM
  #28  
Ryons02TLTypeS's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 186
Likes: 0
From: Queens, NY
O ok.. Thats what i thought..
Reply
Old May 13, 2010 | 11:33 AM
  #29  
justnspace's Avatar
Moderator
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 86,293
Likes: 16,291
You're a cool guy, you know that?
it says 26 but you come off as a 16 year old.

Can any MODS clean this thread up? Especially the last half.
Reply
Old May 13, 2010 | 11:34 AM
  #30  
killersrt's Avatar
Racer
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 324
Likes: 0
From: Brandon, fl
Nah, son! We're gonna e-thug it out!
Reply
Old May 13, 2010 | 11:37 AM
  #31  
phee's Avatar
I got the Shifts
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 14,203
Likes: 231
GTFO with your triple posts man. you are WRONG
Reply
Old May 13, 2010 | 11:38 AM
  #32  
justnspace's Avatar
Moderator
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 86,293
Likes: 16,291
Thanks phee, i enjoyed your mountain run
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2013 | 03:48 PM
  #33  
paperboy42190's Avatar
Moderator
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,992
Likes: 1,164
From: Alhambra, CA
damn that ryons guy sounds like a real a-hole
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2013 | 04:27 PM
  #34  
AccordFlex's Avatar
Pro
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 634
Likes: 214
From: Baltimore
Dude 3 year old thread bump.
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2013 | 06:48 PM
  #35  
paperboy42190's Avatar
Moderator
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,992
Likes: 1,164
From: Alhambra, CA
i know, but i just wanted to post up what i thought in case other ppl read this thread later on
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2013 | 10:07 PM
  #36  
EvilVirus's Avatar
Safety Car
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 4,227
Likes: 1,120
From: Houston
At least he search
Reply
Old May 28, 2023 | 12:17 PM
  #37  
Servante1510's Avatar
1st Gear
 
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by 04_6SPEEDTL
Has anyone done this to thier TL? Here is the link:

http://powerrevextras.com/catalog/pr...roducts_id=151

Any good gains from this? Correct me if i am wrong but we can cram as much air as we want into our motors but dont we need more fuel to back it up and get good power? Also i think we should all try to get a company to make a tune for our cars (i called hondata directly a few months ago and the guy said he doesnt have any plans for our motors & he was a real dick too) & on top of that how about accessory pully's? Just some idea's
I was thinking the same if we add ported runners what's required to use it to the full extent ?
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2024 | 06:27 AM
  #38  
MyadidaS33's Avatar
8th Gear
Liked
 
Joined: Feb 2024
Posts: 8
Likes: 1
I got offered a set of 3.7 pnp runners for dirt. I'm planning to use them. But someone else told me they could cause issues. I'm j32 ,3.7tb and spacer, cai intake, im spacer, atlpv2 j pipe and 3rd cat delete. So not quite fbo but not stock either. Anyone confirm if the runners are a bad idea since this is my daily?
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
fifer16
1G RL (1996-2004)
10
Nov 22, 2024 07:07 PM
rp_guy
Member Cars for Sale
9
Jul 16, 2017 07:33 AM
rcs86
Car Parts for Sale
3
Aug 2, 2016 06:52 PM
InFaMouSLink
Car Parts for Sale
3
Oct 30, 2015 09:43 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:20 AM.