Are performance chips any good??
05-30-2008, 12:21 PM
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Are performance chips any good??
I just bought a 2004 TL and I am trying to add some more power and improve gas mileage.
With that in mind, I was looking at some performance chips or ecu reprogramming. Does anyone have any leads on any good products that will help me get what Im looking for?
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Zach
With that in mind, I was looking at some performance chips or ecu reprogramming. Does anyone have any leads on any good products that will help me get what Im looking for?
Thanks!
Zach
05-30-2008, 12:41 PM
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Go ahead, knock yourself out. Ebay is filled with them.
It's just too bad that none of the aziners are doing it.....
I mean, c'mon, what was it... $10 for 50whp and 50% increase gas mileage?
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It's just too bad that none of the aziners are doing it.....
I mean, c'mon, what was it... $10 for 50whp and 50% increase gas mileage?
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05-30-2008, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by o4Komodo
Go ahead, knock yourself out. Ebay is filled with them.
It's just too bad that none of the aziners are doing it.....
I mean, c'mon, what was it... $10 for 50whp and 50% increase gas mileage?
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It's just too bad that none of the aziners are doing it.....
I mean, c'mon, what was it... $10 for 50whp and 50% increase gas mileage?
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05-30-2008, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by KzooTL
Couldn't you reflash a stock ECU? Setup up new shift timing stuff like that?
C'Mon, use the SEARCH function and you will find out that it's "not that easy" and we already know others are doing things on hondas and Subu's and etc. Someone PLEASe close this thread already. It's gotten tot he point of SPAM
i asked the same question when i was new...it was 4 months ago...
05-30-2008, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by o4Komodo
Go ahead, knock yourself out. Ebay is filled with them.
It's just too bad that none of the aziners are doing it.....
I mean, c'mon, what was it... $10 for 50whp and 50% increase gas mileage?
[/sarcasm]
It's just too bad that none of the aziners are doing it.....
I mean, c'mon, what was it... $10 for 50whp and 50% increase gas mileage?
[/sarcasm]
05-30-2008, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
Actually, I broke the bank and bought the $15 one. I'm putting 380 to the wheels and getting 54 mpg on the highway.
yea i sold it to him as a guineapig, if you want anx1300c and i are gonna try and get a batch made, it'll be closer to a $200 chip tho after we improve on the flux capacitor's turbo laser option.
dude to be honest, if you're thinking about buying some type of super chip, might as well buy a month's worth of extensz or however you spell it.
05-30-2008, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
Actually, I broke the bank and bought the $15 one. I'm putting 380 to the wheels and getting 54 mpg on the highway.
Originally Posted by JCL622
yea i sold it to him as a guineapig, if you want anx1300c and i are gonna try and get a batch made, it'll be closer to a $200 chip tho after we improve on the flux capacitor's turbo laser option.
Hahah... Time to sleep.
05-31-2008, 09:56 AM
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after being discussed a million time shere on Azine it should be obvious. They are a waste of money. The only exception is if your TL has forced induction on it. If chips gave huge HP and MPG increase every single TL here would have one.
05-31-2008, 10:18 AM
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Well, this has been a very interesting response to a VERY simple and logical question. Apparently everyone who responded to this post with either "flux capacitor" or "laser" in their reply has never owned or modified another car before. There are cars out there that DO benefit from a performance chip or ECU reprogram. I was not referring to the $5 chips on Ebay. I agree I should have done a little more searching on the forum, but was it really necessary to give such idiotic responses????
My question was not dumb, it was very realistic. This is the first car naturally aspirated car that I have tried to modify. I just don't have much experience with non-turbo or non-supercharged cars.
Does anyone even have any proof that there is no ECU modification that actually works? What are you basing your decision off of?? Have you seen dyno numbers? Have you researched all of the products? Do you know anyone that bought the product and saw no change in their dyno chart? If your answer is NO to all of those questions, keep your mouth shut and let the people who really know speak up. Don't muddy the watter with your ignorance.
Welcome to the forum huh?
My question was not dumb, it was very realistic. This is the first car naturally aspirated car that I have tried to modify. I just don't have much experience with non-turbo or non-supercharged cars.
Does anyone even have any proof that there is no ECU modification that actually works? What are you basing your decision off of?? Have you seen dyno numbers? Have you researched all of the products? Do you know anyone that bought the product and saw no change in their dyno chart? If your answer is NO to all of those questions, keep your mouth shut and let the people who really know speak up. Don't muddy the watter with your ignorance.
Welcome to the forum huh?
05-31-2008, 10:25 AM
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^^^ Seems like there are some people on this forum that take any opportunity they can to belittle or flame someone that posts a question that may have been answered or they already know the answer to it. I've never run into this on MINI forums but here its different.
Hondata doesn't make a K-pro reflash for the TL unfortunately. But for whatever reason they decided to make one for the RDX?! That sucks because they would have a lot of people that would buy one if they produced one for the TL. Looks like we are out of luck on the ECU mod front. Dang...
Hondata doesn't make a K-pro reflash for the TL unfortunately. But for whatever reason they decided to make one for the RDX?! That sucks because they would have a lot of people that would buy one if they produced one for the TL. Looks like we are out of luck on the ECU mod front. Dang...
05-31-2008, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dsmboosted
Well, this has been a very interesting response to a VERY simple and logical question. Apparently everyone who responded to this post with either "flux capacitor" or "laser" in their reply has never owned or modified another car before. There are cars out there that DO benefit from a performance chip or ECU reprogram. I was not referring to the $5 chips on Ebay. I agree I should have done a little more searching on the forum, but was it really necessary to give such idiotic responses????
My question was not dumb, it was very realistic. This is the first car naturally aspirated car that I have tried to modify. I just don't have much experience with non-turbo or non-supercharged cars.
Does anyone even have any proof that there is no ECU modification that actually works? What are you basing your decision off of?? Have you seen dyno numbers? Have you researched all of the products? Do you know anyone that bought the product and saw no change in their dyno chart? If your answer is NO to all of those questions, keep your mouth shut and let the people who really know speak up. Don't muddy the watter with your ignorance.
Welcome to the forum huh?
My question was not dumb, it was very realistic. This is the first car naturally aspirated car that I have tried to modify. I just don't have much experience with non-turbo or non-supercharged cars.
Does anyone even have any proof that there is no ECU modification that actually works? What are you basing your decision off of?? Have you seen dyno numbers? Have you researched all of the products? Do you know anyone that bought the product and saw no change in their dyno chart? If your answer is NO to all of those questions, keep your mouth shut and let the people who really know speak up. Don't muddy the watter with your ignorance.
Welcome to the forum huh?
Shawn Church Automotive, http://home.earthlink.net/~spchurch/...motivetesting/, also offers ECU tuning services. Depending on what you want done, $150 and up.
If you are local (SoCal), you can just go to these locations and have your ECU tuned. If not, you have to ship your ECU out to them. Jet Performance promises next day service.
However, you should have ALL of your desired mods done to your car before you send in your ECU to either of these places. Obviously, they will tune depending on your mods. Everytime you add a performance mod, the ECU will have to be retuned.
BTW, Welcome to the forum!
MOST people on here are very helpful and laid back.
Originally Posted by MINIFVR
^^^ Seems like there are some people on this forum that take any opportunity they can to belittle or flame someone that posts a question that may have been answered or they already know the answer to it. I've never run into this on MINI forums but here its different.
Hondata doesn't make a K-pro reflash for the TL unfortunately. But for whatever reason they decided to make one for the RDX?! That sucks because they would have a lot of people that would buy one if they produced one for the TL. Looks like we are out of luck on the ECU mod front. Dang...
Hondata doesn't make a K-pro reflash for the TL unfortunately. But for whatever reason they decided to make one for the RDX?! That sucks because they would have a lot of people that would buy one if they produced one for the TL. Looks like we are out of luck on the ECU mod front. Dang...
Of course HONDATA would make an ECU reflash for the TL, stock, but they have as yet to be successful at making gains in their attempts.
Hopefully, SOMEDAY, someone will come up with something?
05-31-2008, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by princelybug
Jet Performance Products, www.jetchip.com, offers an ECU reflash for $330, I believe.
05-31-2008, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dsmboosted
Well, this has been a very interesting response to a VERY simple and logical question. Apparently everyone who responded to this post with either "flux capacitor" or "laser" in their reply has never owned or modified another car before. There are cars out there that DO benefit from a performance chip or ECU reprogram. I was not referring to the $5 chips on Ebay. I agree I should have done a little more searching on the forum, but was it really necessary to give such idiotic responses????
My question was not dumb, it was very realistic. This is the first car naturally aspirated car that I have tried to modify. I just don't have much experience with non-turbo or non-supercharged cars.
Does anyone even have any proof that there is no ECU modification that actually works? What are you basing your decision off of?? Have you seen dyno numbers? Have you researched all of the products? Do you know anyone that bought the product and saw no change in their dyno chart? If your answer is NO to all of those questions, keep your mouth shut and let the people who really know speak up. Don't muddy the watter with your ignorance.
Welcome to the forum huh?
My question was not dumb, it was very realistic. This is the first car naturally aspirated car that I have tried to modify. I just don't have much experience with non-turbo or non-supercharged cars.
Does anyone even have any proof that there is no ECU modification that actually works? What are you basing your decision off of?? Have you seen dyno numbers? Have you researched all of the products? Do you know anyone that bought the product and saw no change in their dyno chart? If your answer is NO to all of those questions, keep your mouth shut and let the people who really know speak up. Don't muddy the watter with your ignorance.
Welcome to the forum huh?
EVERYTHING you are asking has already been addressed in other post. There are "issues" with the way that Honda programmed the TL chip in the 3rd gen TLs (Closed loop) and no, neither greddy nor others are able to address this issue. Seems that the ONLY tuning you can do to a TL is a bit of air-to-fuel rations and even that is LOCKED and not variable. So, yes it has been discussed so it's not just hearsay. It's just that YOU haven't seen the details yet. Those details are out there and there really is no point in repeating them again for each and every "un-educated" (I mean that in a nice way) person that comes on and post "hey, what about....."
In my business, we call it the client's "wish list" as in "I wish it could make gold out of tin and I'd be willing to pay $20 for it".... well, Do'aH, wouldn't EVERYBODY? Just because you WISH for it, will NOT make it come true. Stop wishing and start researching. The details have already been answered and there really is no ploint in repeating those answers over and over and over and over.... You DO realize that you are NOT the first one to have asked this and wondered why everybody is pointing you to the search function, right? It's not that we hate you, it's just that you are showing that you haven't done the research you need to before someone answers you.
05-31-2008, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ndabunka
Jet was sued and LOST their suit. The defendant PROVED that jet did not modify ANYTHING on his particular chip even though they kept insisting that they had. He was a programmer who was able to call BS and he WON. Since not everybody has the technical savvy and JET is still selling, it does show that even though they were caught (at least) once, they aren't letting that stop them from fooling the less-technical among the general population.
06-01-2008, 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by dsmboosted
Well, this has been a very interesting response to a VERY simple and logical question. Apparently everyone who responded to this post with either "flux capacitor" or "laser" in their reply has never owned or modified another car before. There are cars out there that DO benefit from a performance chip or ECU reprogram. I was not referring to the $5 chips on Ebay. I agree I should have done a little more searching on the forum, but was it really necessary to give such idiotic responses????
My question was not dumb, it was very realistic. This is the first car naturally aspirated car that I have tried to modify. I just don't have much experience with non-turbo or non-supercharged cars.
Does anyone even have any proof that there is no ECU modification that actually works? What are you basing your decision off of?? Have you seen dyno numbers? Have you researched all of the products? Do you know anyone that bought the product and saw no change in their dyno chart? If your answer is NO to all of those questions, keep your mouth shut and let the people who really know speak up. Don't muddy the watter with your ignorance.
Welcome to the forum huh?
My question was not dumb, it was very realistic. This is the first car naturally aspirated car that I have tried to modify. I just don't have much experience with non-turbo or non-supercharged cars.
Does anyone even have any proof that there is no ECU modification that actually works? What are you basing your decision off of?? Have you seen dyno numbers? Have you researched all of the products? Do you know anyone that bought the product and saw no change in their dyno chart? If your answer is NO to all of those questions, keep your mouth shut and let the people who really know speak up. Don't muddy the watter with your ignorance.
Welcome to the forum huh?
Hondata has done limited work on a few NA cars, for R&D purposes, but it's not commercially available at this point. If you find anything worthwhile, let us know.
06-02-2008, 01:24 PM
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Alright I did some searching of my own it seems that two guys from the forum have an N/A reflash that yielded good gains. Look for posts from GoBig and JOES05tl as they've been running the tune for a while.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180694
More threads with a Hondata rep.
https://acurazine.com/forums/console-computer-gaming-13/where-everyone-135296/
https://acurazine.com/forums/audio-video-electronics-navigation-22/wire-colors-135753/
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=167269
Point is if you really want tuning drive to Church's Auto tell them you want what JOES05TL and GoBig got for your TL and they might just give it to you.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180694
More threads with a Hondata rep.
https://acurazine.com/forums/console-computer-gaming-13/where-everyone-135296/
https://acurazine.com/forums/audio-video-electronics-navigation-22/wire-colors-135753/
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=167269
Point is if you really want tuning drive to Church's Auto tell them you want what JOES05TL and GoBig got for your TL and they might just give it to you.
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