n3o

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I searched but all that came up were Type S front brembo's on base model swaps. I was looking at my TL the other day on the lift and realized the emergency brake lines went into the hub...I was under the impression that it didn't have rear brembo's because it had a similar rear caliper as the RSX does where the e-brake line runs directly to the caliper. Since this is not the case, It should be possible to swap a pair of 2 pot brembo's over to the rear. I have access to a CNC Machiner and he can make brackets so long as I get him the CAD file. Question now is...has anyone done this? And if not does anyone know where I can start as far as finding a vented rotor that will fit the hub?

n3rd

This is something I've been thinking about as well. If you do manage to get this worked out I'll buy a set of brackets from you.

Would this mess with brake bias?

princelybug

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This will not interfere with the brake bias.

I'm interested to see the results.

Hi speed

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Cool for looks but a waste of money from a performance stand point, better rear rotors is a better bet to increase braking performance. That being said I would do it for the looks.

Toddy

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I looked into this and have read where people are using the OEM rear calipers off of an EVO to put on there with custom brackets. Id like to see this. Our oem rear calipers are fugly and ruin the look with a nice set of wheels. I'd do it for looks

Locomaaan

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Interesting thread. If those rear evo calipers work, im in aswell. I cant stand the look of our cheesy rear calipers and im not interested in a complete BBK, thats a waste.

TIMMY K TL

HI I have aucra TL 2004 with CT supercharge I do update the front brembo's but the rear brembo's i cant find it but i can tell everybody if u drive over 145mph need emergency stop the front brake can handle on it but the rear will deep shake i looking for rear brembo's or different brand name stop-tech or w/w ..etc to update on it please let me know if someone update the rear brake already please ASAP
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This thread is going nowhere fast.

So you guys want to put a 2 piston caliper on the stock rotor? Can anyone actually name an advantage of the 2 piston caliper over stock?

No TL ever had a 2 piston rear caliper or "Brembos" on the rear other than a "Brembo" pad.

It can and most likely will affect brake bias. Only if the overall piston diameter is the same as stock will it not affect bias.

This is not necessarily a bad thing as just a little more rear bias is ok but go too far and the car will be more likely to get squirrely in the rear under braking.

There's so much info out there on this subject. I've gathered so much data on brake temps front and rear before and after the 13" Rotoras, before and after the ultra aggressive Cobalt pads with Rotora rotors in the rear, at the track and hard street use but no one searches to find this info. There's enough out there to determine if the car even needs a rear brake upgrade.

Here's a hint..... I would worry about the 10.8" NON VENTED SOLID ROTORS on the rear before I worry about the calipers.

I hate cars

HUH????

The only maker of a rear BBK for the TL is Rotora for sure and I believe maybe Stoptech or RacingBrake. They cost as much or more than the front kits.

stillhere153

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Wrong... Get ur facts right

Contact josh @ excelerate performance



fastbrakes makes a kit using wilwood calipers

Toddy

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Maybe someone wants it for looks. Personally I feel that the stock rear calipers will ruin the look of a perfect set of wheels. I guess one could just go buy the cheap plastic look alike covers that stick the the caliper with double sided tape but that would be ricey.

Granted doing anything that doesn't add performance could be considered ricey. I think that all the people putting the di-noc film all over their cars is somewhat ricey. But it looks nice and adds appeal to the car.

The TL was never designed to be the extreme horsepower producer as we all have seen since you can't get far past 300hp without spending 4500-6000 on Forced Induction. Our cars were built to be appealing to the eyes so why skimp on the brake caliper. Sure you could paint it to match but it still looks like crap.

libert69

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wilwood 4pot rear calipers with 11.2" slotted/dimpled rotors so you can keep the parking brake. soon to be installed to compliment the wilwood front 4 pot calipers and 12.6" rotors. The car stops extremely well right now with just the front kit and some cheap prestone brake fluid. Bleeding the whole system with motul 5.1 when the rear kit is put on.

KN_TL

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Bert, is this a direct bolt on?

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Coming from the guy who is wrong more than he has been right, I would watch what I say. That's why I said "I think". Aren't you the one that said you don't have to replace the steering knuckle going from 5at to 6mt Brembos.....

For all you ricers that do it for looks, that's sad. No one can name a single performance advantage, you just do it because it has an extra piston. Sad.

pimpin-tl

Putting larger calipers on the rear WILL have a difference in brake bias. As long as you don't go bigger than a 2 piston on the rear you will be fine.

pimpin-tl

The car COULD use larger rear brakes. As I tested mine on the track when I had to do a full stop from 130 mph down to 0 pretty much. The backs were smoking while the fronts were hot but were fine. Never had that issue on my 350Z with the Brembo package.

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I think in our case it will. They could keep it the same by keeping the same overall piston area as stock which would be nice. You could easily have a 4 pot back there with the same overall piston swept area as stock too, look at the Racing Brake setups. Most of the front BBK have the same or less overall piston swept area to compensate for the leverage of the larger rotor.

libert69

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Yes. Except the dust shield needs to be trimmed down a good bit in order to get the bracket in place.

Did you just call me a ricer? lol

justnspace

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^he quoted still here.

I hate cars

LOL. Of course not. It was to the guy with the attitude a few posts above.

I wouldn't mind doing what you have done with the rears but it might look ghetto to have Rotora calipers up front with Wilwoods in the rear.

Mine show upwards of 900 degrees in the rear under track conditions, it makes me a little nervous, larger vented rotors would be nice. However, with the good pads, they take the heat just fine.

I hate cars

While they look nice, I've never understood the way of thinking of spending money on performance parts just to look better. I needed an upgrade due to the way my car gets used. Mine has actually suffered brake fade, my stock rotors cracked and turned blue. Buying a BBK just for looks is not my thing. I've gone so far as to paint my Rotoras black so they don't stand out.

It's the equivalent of installing a supercharger to look fast but not putting the belt on it.

Even with the way I use mine, with the aggressive pads and stock sized Rotora rotors they are doing ok. With the fronts taken care of I'll probably piece together the rear system over the course of a year. I still don't like how hot they get. If it's run long enough at the temps it sees, it will boil the fluid eventually.

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Care to show us all of these rear BBKs?

stillhere153

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ihc... dude attitude? me? ...


if you are worried about 2 diff brands of calps... paint the rear brands over also

stillhere153

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ps. the knuckle comment from over a year ago was a mistake in part # cross referencing

Mjakaz09TL

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OP... any updates? Id be interested in a set of custom brackets if this would work.

I too would really only be in it for the looks and a slightly bigger set of brakes in the back.

DeeJay17

thoiboi

That's a long title for a book..

Hugo2go

Ive been researching this and the closest set of Brembo rear calipers that will work are off a 06 Subaru STI or a Nissan 300ZX turbo.
Of course with the use of custom brackets. Once I complete my t-belt and A-Spec lip install I'll be doing this and making a write up.

horseshoez

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I'm trying to figure out what the mechanics in SoCal were smoking when they said it would be beneficial to put Brembos on the back end of a TL. The thing is, the factory rear brakes are already more than enough to provide the car with the shortest stopping distances possible, said another way, adding Bembos to the rear will not shorten stopping distances one iota.

teh CL

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More for looks than anything.

horseshoez

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Okay, you got me there; I do like the look of a nice 4-piston caliper on all four wheels.

teh CL

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Definitely. The stock rear calipers are dull to say the least..

TacoBello

Save the money, but the Acura RDX caliper covers, spend $20 instead of a shit ton more... Have same performance as before.

Horseshoez is right. There is no benefit in adding brembos to the back, besides for heat dissipation, but I highly doubt the rears ever get anywhere near that hot... So... Useless. If the rears got that hot, the fronts would be glowing red, lol.

Hugo2go

To each their own.
Funny how alot of people are saying there is no benefit, yet the people mentioning this have no track seat time or are not engineers.

Once I complete the rear Brembo brake build, I will post the results.

horseshoez

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Interesting theory, however, I am both an engineer and have significant track time. Like it or don't, believe it or not, a heavy nosed FWD car like the TL will not in any way (except in the looks department) by adding more capable brakes to the rear end.

Hugo2go

Everyone on here is a engineer and prolific race car driver. LOL

thoiboi

this gone be good

horseshoez

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Clearly you understand everything there is to know about cars; so please, enlighten us with the physics of how more robust rear brakes on a 3G TL is going to do anything to aid braking performance.

Joecop67

truonghthe

Because FB group told me so bro...