My 3.7 mani, ZDX TB, and pnp runners build thread
#481
Burning Brakes
I'm assuming you have Flashpro?
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#483
Suzuka Master
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Our OEM TB's are ~ 66-67 mm bored. Stock, untouched ZDX TB is ~ 69 mm. That's not going to give you 3-5 whp. Add a 4" intake and the ZDX TB and you may see 3-5 whp.
Can you translate to English? I need a 4" intake myself!
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#484
No, I'll be getting the HFPC's first and then an exhaust. I'm behind bro...
I'll definitely check this out man, looks pretty solid.
Exactly what I was looking for bud. I think I'll go straight to the CAI.
this intake is a perfect fit just have to cut it .http://www.carid.com/universal-air-i...it-430686.html
#485
When I did the 3.7 setup I I didn't notice a big difference till I got that 4" intake and the big gain came after I got the rv6 hfpc .
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#486
All motor
EDIT: Rubenders, didn't realize you didn't have most of the bolt ons before the 3.7 setup. I had the bolt ons previously, which is probably why I saw such a great gain. That gain was OVER my previously ported stock manifold as well
Before 3.7 IM/TB/runners I trapped 102 in the 1/4 mile, after 104. Then the 4" CAI went on and under great conditions went 106.6.
Also, on the street, it made up a solid 2+ cars. I had a run with a buddy of mine in his RSX-s on this board. Previously, he pulled me a solid 2 cars. Since that run he changed his plugs and raised the rev limiter, so his car was definitely quicker. After the 4" CAI/3.7 setup, we were dead even, with me creeping up top. The 3.7 setup is a must for anyone serious about making power in their J series all motor. Numbers don't lie.
Last edited by Sonnick; 03-14-2013 at 08:54 AM.
#487
I didn't think I noticed a big gain with just the 3.7 IM/TB/runners either. I knew there were gains, but wasn't sure how much. Then I went to the dyno and put down an extra 15whp. Butt dynos suck. I put the 4" CAI on and that gave me great gains as well, but take your butt dyno with a grain of salt.
EDIT: Rubenders, didn't realize you didn't have most of the bolt ons before the 3.7 setup. I had the bolt ons previously, which is probably why I saw such a great gain. That gain was OVER my previously ported stock manifold as well
Before 3.7 IM/TB/runners I trapped 102 in the 1/4 mile, after 104. Then the 4" CAI went on and under great conditions went 106.6.
Also, on the street, it made up a solid 2+ cars. I had a run with a buddy of mine in his RSX-s on this board. Previously, he pulled me a solid 2 cars. Since that run he changed his plugs and raised the rev limiter, so his car was definitely quicker. After the 4" CAI/3.7 setup, we were dead even, with me creeping up top. The 3.7 setup is a must for anyone serious about making power in their J series all motor. Numbers don't lie.
EDIT: Rubenders, didn't realize you didn't have most of the bolt ons before the 3.7 setup. I had the bolt ons previously, which is probably why I saw such a great gain. That gain was OVER my previously ported stock manifold as well
Before 3.7 IM/TB/runners I trapped 102 in the 1/4 mile, after 104. Then the 4" CAI went on and under great conditions went 106.6.
Also, on the street, it made up a solid 2+ cars. I had a run with a buddy of mine in his RSX-s on this board. Previously, he pulled me a solid 2 cars. Since that run he changed his plugs and raised the rev limiter, so his car was definitely quicker. After the 4" CAI/3.7 setup, we were dead even, with me creeping up top. The 3.7 setup is a must for anyone serious about making power in their J series all motor. Numbers don't lie.
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I had PCDs, J pipe, 3rd cat straight pipe, and XLR8 catback and AEM V2. I then did the runners, manifold and TB and saw awesome gains. Now that the car is flowing nicely I think thats why I feel a decent amount of power increase. Only the dyno will tell though.
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All motor
I have a velocity stack.
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I have a 5" x 9" AEM filter (inlet is 4" but base is 5", if i remember right)
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^Not very because it's plastic, no?
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^No I'm agreeing with you. It's like a hardish ABS style plastic. Should be easy to tap a bung into to...
#502
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I can't say I'd want to have a nut inside my intake tract. Loctite, plastic weld not withstanding, it would truly suck if it backed off and got sucked down through the manifold and runners and bent a valve. At the very least, it would be much safer to JB weld and actual bung on the outside of the intake tube. JB weld isn't that great for intense heat cycling though. Could just relocate the IAT under the bumper like Innacurate did.
#503
I can't say I'd want to have a nut inside my intake tract. Loctite, plastic weld not withstanding, it would truly suck if it backed off and got sucked down through the manifold and runners and bent a valve. At the very least, it would be much safer to JB weld and actual bung on the outside of the intake tube. JB weld isn't that great for intense heat cycling though. Could just relocate the IAT under the bumper like Innacurate did.
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You're right about this intake actually running cooler than an aluminum one though. Looks like a good setup and I like the stealth look. Definitely considering one. How's the sound compared to what you had on before?
#507
The theory behind running the IAT as far away from the engine as possible is to keep it as cool as possible so the ecu is tricked into thinking the actual incoming air is colder/denser than it really is, hence the ecu won't pull timing. Sounds great in theory, but not really sure if it makes much difference in the real world.
You're right about this intake actually running cooler than an aluminum one though. Looks like a good setup and I like the stealth look. Definitely considering one. How's the sound compared to what you had on before?
You're right about this intake actually running cooler than an aluminum one though. Looks like a good setup and I like the stealth look. Definitely considering one. How's the sound compared to what you had on before?
#513
Dallas Chapter Leader (Midwest Region)
I am about to do a Timing belt in 10k and am interested in this 3.7 setup. However i want to get the best power out of my build. I know alot of guys(not all) here are just in for a few easy bolt-ons as not everyone is a mechanic like me. I have built alot of GM engines but a 3.2. My question is this,
Will 3.7 heads fit on a 07 3.2 block(mounting/cooling passages/etc)?
I have only a XLR8 exhaust now as i just bought the car 6mnths ago. If 3.7 heads fit, i am thinking get a 3.7 manifold/ZDX TB/CAMS/HFPC and V3 J-PIPE + INTAKE. undestand a 3.7 stroker kit is going to.be available soon. This could be a nasty setup after a nice tune using the FLASH PRO.
Any thoughts on this?
Will 3.7 heads fit on a 07 3.2 block(mounting/cooling passages/etc)?
I have only a XLR8 exhaust now as i just bought the car 6mnths ago. If 3.7 heads fit, i am thinking get a 3.7 manifold/ZDX TB/CAMS/HFPC and V3 J-PIPE + INTAKE. undestand a 3.7 stroker kit is going to.be available soon. This could be a nasty setup after a nice tune using the FLASH PRO.
Any thoughts on this?
#516
All motor
Someone was debating doing the 3.7 head swap on V6 pee. Never got a chance to do it because the heads are so expensive, but apparently they are the same pattern as the Type S heads (minor differences in oil passages I believe), so they might work. No one has tried it. But yes, I don't know how the ECU would be able to control VTEC on both the I/E sides.
#517
Dallas Chapter Leader (Midwest Region)
Hmm didn't know vtec was different on the 3.7. Maybe i can do a port/polish on a 3.7 manifold and tb as well as the heads plus a valve job with bigger valves/springs. If you want real power you do serious mods. I wonder what duty cycle the injectors are running stock...? If there is enough room to tune stock injectors or get some AM.... little info on builds with these motors as they are few and far between. I will have to look into it more
#519
Burning Brakes
Hmm didn't know vtec was different on the 3.7. Maybe i can do a port/polish on a 3.7 manifold and tb as well as the heads plus a valve job with bigger valves/springs. If you want real power you do serious mods. I wonder what duty cycle the injectors are running stock...? If there is enough room to tune stock injectors or get some AM.... little info on builds with these motors as they are few and far between. I will have to look into it more
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