Mid Muffler Removal QUESTIONS!
10-20-2008, 04:38 AM
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Mid Muffler Removal QUESTIONS!
I've been reading on other threads
NOT a TL btw.
so basically all i need to do is remove the mid muffler nd leave the resonator for the deeper sound like the g35?
PLEASE PLEASE post step-by-step pics of how to do it, write it down,
explain, w/e there is that is necessary for me to become 100% familiar with what can be done for that kind of a sound without any raspy sounds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I-k9M1Fu08
According to the person who posted the video, his car is BONE STOCK and all he did was remove the mid muffler. Please, if there are any pictures of a before and after a mid muffler is removed... please post!
Thank you!
NOT a TL btw.
so basically all i need to do is remove the mid muffler nd leave the resonator for the deeper sound like the g35?
PLEASE PLEASE post step-by-step pics of how to do it, write it down,
explain, w/e there is that is necessary for me to become 100% familiar with what can be done for that kind of a sound without any raspy sounds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I-k9M1Fu08
According to the person who posted the video, his car is BONE STOCK and all he did was remove the mid muffler. Please, if there are any pictures of a before and after a mid muffler is removed... please post!
Thank you!
Last edited by choiboyyy; 10-20-2008 at 04:40 AM.
10-20-2008, 08:42 AM
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I just took mine to a local shop and had then remove the mid muffler and replace it with a length of pipe. Cost me between $35 & $50 .. can't remember. Took 1/2 hour.
I kept the muffler in case I didn't like the noise.
I kept the muffler in case I didn't like the noise.
10-20-2008, 12:10 PM
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if you just take off the mid muffler it wont sound like a g35. this is called a stage 2 exhaust. if you want the sound of a g35 you go for stage3 in this stage you take off the mid muffler and resonator and replace with a dynomax resonator it doesnt cost that much to get. you can also watch videos on youtube. hope this helped
10-20-2008, 12:26 PM
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one more thing is stage 3 illegal in california? i didnt get a smog check yet because i just move here like 2 ago and im about to get my car reg. to cali and i need a smog check.
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Here you go...
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ht=muffler+mid
Should answer all your questions regarding the mid-muffler delete. I just got mine done this weekend (Stage 2 - mid muffler delete, removal of stock resonator, addition of Magnaflow resonator). I paid a little more than everyone else; around $180 for everything. But that's the best I could find up here in the NW. Hope this helps. BTW, it's definitely worth it if you don't want to invest in a new exhaust system.
edit: Sorry just reread your post. You probably already read the post I linked. So step-by-step (at least for Stage 2)
1. Shop will cut out stock resonator
2. Shop will attach Magnaflow resonator
3. Shop will cut out mid-muffler
4. Shop will run 2.5" piping (aluminized) from the new Magnaflow resonator to fill the left over space from the deleted mid-muffler.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ht=muffler+mid
Should answer all your questions regarding the mid-muffler delete. I just got mine done this weekend (Stage 2 - mid muffler delete, removal of stock resonator, addition of Magnaflow resonator). I paid a little more than everyone else; around $180 for everything. But that's the best I could find up here in the NW. Hope this helps. BTW, it's definitely worth it if you don't want to invest in a new exhaust system.
edit: Sorry just reread your post. You probably already read the post I linked. So step-by-step (at least for Stage 2)
1. Shop will cut out stock resonator
2. Shop will attach Magnaflow resonator
3. Shop will cut out mid-muffler
4. Shop will run 2.5" piping (aluminized) from the new Magnaflow resonator to fill the left over space from the deleted mid-muffler.
Last edited by spc425; 10-20-2008 at 01:05 PM. Reason: edit
10-20-2008, 06:33 PM
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if you just take off the mid muffler it wont sound like a g35. this is called a stage 2 exhaust. if you want the sound of a g35 you go for stage3 in this stage you take off the mid muffler and resonator and replace with a dynomax resonator it doesnt cost that much to get. you can also watch videos on youtube. hope this helped
ok ok. cuz the whole stage 2, stage 3 thing confused the hell out of me.
now you said the dynomax resonator... where can this be purchased nd for how much?
exact link please
nd thank you
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Here you go...
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ht=muffler+mid
Should answer all your questions regarding the mid-muffler delete. I just got mine done this weekend (Stage 2 - mid muffler delete, removal of stock resonator, addition of Magnaflow resonator). I paid a little more than everyone else; around $180 for everything. But that's the best I could find up here in the NW. Hope this helps. BTW, it's definitely worth it if you don't want to invest in a new exhaust system.
edit: Sorry just reread your post. You probably already read the post I linked. So step-by-step (at least for Stage 2)
1. Shop will cut out stock resonator
2. Shop will attach Magnaflow resonator
3. Shop will cut out mid-muffler
4. Shop will run 2.5" piping (aluminized) from the new Magnaflow resonator to fill the left over space from the deleted mid-muffler.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ht=muffler+mid
Should answer all your questions regarding the mid-muffler delete. I just got mine done this weekend (Stage 2 - mid muffler delete, removal of stock resonator, addition of Magnaflow resonator). I paid a little more than everyone else; around $180 for everything. But that's the best I could find up here in the NW. Hope this helps. BTW, it's definitely worth it if you don't want to invest in a new exhaust system.
edit: Sorry just reread your post. You probably already read the post I linked. So step-by-step (at least for Stage 2)
1. Shop will cut out stock resonator
2. Shop will attach Magnaflow resonator
3. Shop will cut out mid-muffler
4. Shop will run 2.5" piping (aluminized) from the new Magnaflow resonator to fill the left over space from the deleted mid-muffler.
also, i was thinking about getting it professionally done as well. how did they do? haha it DOES depend on the place as well, but just curious. any pics?
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10-21-2008, 12:55 AM
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The following is directly from AZNBO187 and is CORRECT!
Compilation of all stages of exhaust resonator modification.
So I took the time and made this post so all of the new people don't have to go through 20 pages of discussion.
So far, there are 4 stages of this exhaust mod.
Stage 1.
Least noticeable in exhaust note increase.
Configuration:
Stock exhaust.
Remove mid-muffler. Replace with 2.5" straight pipe. Everything else remains stock.
Cost: Can be anywhere from $30-$60 w/aluminized pipping.
Stage 2.
A tad louder than stage one, a bit more pronounced tone.
Configuration:
Stock exhaust.
Remove mid-muffler. Replace with 2.5" straight pipe.
Remove stock resonator. Replace with Magnaflow resonator part# 10416.
Magnaflow resonator is a 14" long resonator, which dampens and changes the note of the stock exhaust a bit more, thus you get a bit more loudness/tone.
Cost: Magnaflow resonator costs around $60. Install ranges from $60 -$90 w/ aluminized pipping.
Stage 3.
(Tone result TBA)
Stock exhaust.
Remove mid-muffler. Replace with 2.5" straight pipe.
Remove stock resonator. Replace with Dynomax resonator part# WLK-24215.
Dynomax resonator is a 12" long resonator, which is a bit shorter and less dampening than the magnaflow resonator, thus it should give you a bit more loudness/tone than stage 2.
Cost: Dynomax resonator costs around $40. Install ranges from $60 - $90 w/aluminized pipping.
Stage 4.
Loudest setup out of all 3. Has a bit of a rasp, similar to M3 exhaust setup.
Stock exhaust.
Remove Mid-muffler. Replace with a 2.5" straight pipe.
Remove stock resonator. Replace with a 2.5" straight pipe.
Cost: Can be anywhere from $40 - $60.
Note: If you live in a climate that is prone to rain, snow, rust, Stainless steel pipping is highly recommended.
This also does not prevent you from passing smog, as it does not alter the characteristics of the catalytic converters, but it does not mean that this is street legal either as it does alter the stock setup of the exhaust.
Media.
Stage 1: Revving
Stage 1: Revving
Stage 2: Revving
Stage 2: Revving Pt.2
Stage 2: Inside Revving
Stage 2: Drive By
Stage 3: Windows Down Driving
Stage 3: Revving
Stage 3: Drive By 1
Stage 3: Drive By 2
Stage 3: 2007 TL-S all-in-one
Stage 4: Revving
Stock Exhaust Configuration.
Stage 1.
Stage2.
Stage3.
Magnaflow Resonator 10416
Dynomax Resonator WLK-24215
Good luck!
aznbo187
So I took the time and made this post so all of the new people don't have to go through 20 pages of discussion.
So far, there are 4 stages of this exhaust mod.
Stage 1.
Least noticeable in exhaust note increase.
Configuration:
Stock exhaust.
Remove mid-muffler. Replace with 2.5" straight pipe. Everything else remains stock.
Cost: Can be anywhere from $30-$60 w/aluminized pipping.
Stage 2.
A tad louder than stage one, a bit more pronounced tone.
Configuration:
Stock exhaust.
Remove mid-muffler. Replace with 2.5" straight pipe.
Remove stock resonator. Replace with Magnaflow resonator part# 10416.
Magnaflow resonator is a 14" long resonator, which dampens and changes the note of the stock exhaust a bit more, thus you get a bit more loudness/tone.
Cost: Magnaflow resonator costs around $60. Install ranges from $60 -$90 w/ aluminized pipping.
Stage 3.
(Tone result TBA)
Stock exhaust.
Remove mid-muffler. Replace with 2.5" straight pipe.
Remove stock resonator. Replace with Dynomax resonator part# WLK-24215.
Dynomax resonator is a 12" long resonator, which is a bit shorter and less dampening than the magnaflow resonator, thus it should give you a bit more loudness/tone than stage 2.
Cost: Dynomax resonator costs around $40. Install ranges from $60 - $90 w/aluminized pipping.
Stage 4.
Loudest setup out of all 3. Has a bit of a rasp, similar to M3 exhaust setup.
Stock exhaust.
Remove Mid-muffler. Replace with a 2.5" straight pipe.
Remove stock resonator. Replace with a 2.5" straight pipe.
Cost: Can be anywhere from $40 - $60.
Note: If you live in a climate that is prone to rain, snow, rust, Stainless steel pipping is highly recommended.
This also does not prevent you from passing smog, as it does not alter the characteristics of the catalytic converters, but it does not mean that this is street legal either as it does alter the stock setup of the exhaust.
Media.
Stage 1: Revving
Stage 1: Revving
Stage 2: Revving
Stage 2: Revving Pt.2
Stage 2: Inside Revving
Stage 2: Drive By
Stage 3: Windows Down Driving
Stage 3: Revving
Stage 3: Drive By 1
Stage 3: Drive By 2
Stage 3: 2007 TL-S all-in-one
Stage 4: Revving
Stock Exhaust Configuration.
Stage 1.
Stage2.
Stage3.
Magnaflow Resonator 10416
Dynomax Resonator WLK-24215
Good luck!
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10-21-2008, 02:48 AM
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i dont really know a cheap place to buy the dynomax but you can google it dynomax resonator WLK-24215. the pipes should be supply by the muffler shop and go for 2.5 piping. sry took so long
10-21-2008, 02:21 PM
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Hey guys I was wondering if wanted to move the mid-muffler and replace with a straight, will i be able to past a smog test? I have a new 08 TL and I want to do but not sure about it because I don't know if its legal in Arizona, so can some1 help me out, I look and can't find any laws in Arizona about it. 
Thanks
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10-21-2008, 03:38 PM
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^^ Yes, you will be able to pass emissions. The only way you would not be able to pass is if you change the pre-cats, which is where the O2 sensor is; other than that you are good to go.
Thanks for posting this! I'm thinking about removing the mid-muffler on my AV6spd coupe. Does anyone have a sound clip with the mid-muffler delete and one of the many J-pipes? MY exhaust note is slightly louder than stock and very minimal backfire when it's quiet (1 - 2.5k RPM) with the stock exhaust/RV6 J-pipe/test pipe. I'm interested in the mid-muffler delete; should make it noticeable that the exhaust isn't stock
Thanks for posting this! I'm thinking about removing the mid-muffler on my AV6spd coupe. Does anyone have a sound clip with the mid-muffler delete and one of the many J-pipes? MY exhaust note is slightly louder than stock and very minimal backfire when it's quiet (1 - 2.5k RPM) with the stock exhaust/RV6 J-pipe/test pipe. I'm interested in the mid-muffler delete; should make it noticeable that the exhaust isn't stock
10-21-2008, 05:30 PM
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I read this thread and it motivated me to do it.. I just got back from the Muff shop..
They charged me 25$ to delete the mid-muff.. It sounds pretty cool, but barely noticable.. like BARELY.. so I am goin to find the dynamax res and have them install it for another 25$..
They charged me 25$ to delete the mid-muff.. It sounds pretty cool, but barely noticable.. like BARELY.. so I am goin to find the dynamax res and have them install it for another 25$..
10-21-2008, 05:35 PM
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I read this thread and it motivated me to do it.. I just got back from the Muff shop..
They charged me 25$ to delete the mid-muff.. It sounds pretty cool, but barely noticable.. like BARELY.. so I am goin to find the dynamax res and have them install it for another 25$..
They charged me 25$ to delete the mid-muff.. It sounds pretty cool, but barely noticable.. like BARELY.. so I am goin to find the dynamax res and have them install it for another 25$..
10-22-2008, 12:31 AM
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I just googled muffler shop in CV, and it came up with a bunch of places..
I called around and this guy was really reasonable..
Sams Muffler & Radiator
225 Beyer Way
Chula Vista, CA 91911
Super nice people.. So yup they only charged me 25$ If I was smart I should have gotten the res first and only had to pay 25$ once for the install and midmuff delete.. But I wanted to see if it was gunna be too loud first so I went with this setup.. So my dumb ass is gunna have to pay twice.. Im def getting the dynamax res tho.. LMK if you wanna meet up or whatever to hear it, im in east county all the time.. I go to SDSU..
I called around and this guy was really reasonable..
Sams Muffler & Radiator
225 Beyer Way
Chula Vista, CA 91911
Super nice people.. So yup they only charged me 25$ If I was smart I should have gotten the res first and only had to pay 25$ once for the install and midmuff delete.. But I wanted to see if it was gunna be too loud first so I went with this setup.. So my dumb ass is gunna have to pay twice.. Im def getting the dynamax res tho.. LMK if you wanna meet up or whatever to hear it, im in east county all the time.. I go to SDSU..
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ONE MORE THING!
if i go for the stage 3 exhaust... will my check engine light go off?
if it does nd if i have to take it back to the dealership... my warranty will be voided =(
if i go for the stage 3 exhaust... will my check engine light go off?
if it does nd if i have to take it back to the dealership... my warranty will be voided =(
10-22-2008, 01:21 AM
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I read this thread and it motivated me to do it.. I just got back from the Muff shop..
They charged me 25$ to delete the mid-muff.. It sounds pretty cool, but barely noticable.. like BARELY.. so I am goin to find the dynamax res and have them install it for another 25$..
They charged me 25$ to delete the mid-muff.. It sounds pretty cool, but barely noticable.. like BARELY.. so I am goin to find the dynamax res and have them install it for another 25$..
i live in burbank, ca.
kinda far from sd so i won't be able to head down there =/ but when you get the dynomax in, PLEASE let me know if the check engine light goes off or not.
btw... 25 bucks is HELLA CHEAP! it's 60 for the mid muff delete/straight pipe and it's 100 to add on the dynomax. rip offs T.T
O nd... here you go
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...3&N=700+400358
10-22-2008, 01:48 AM
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hey is there anyway you can get back to me once your dynomax is on your car?
10-22-2008, 11:30 AM
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^^ As I stated before, you will NOT fail emissions with the 3rd cat delete because there are no O2 sensors in the 3rd cat. You will ONLY fail emissions if you delete the pre-cats which have an O2 sensor. And even then, if you get an O2 simulator you will be able to pass.
10-22-2008, 12:11 PM
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You also have the option of running , no mid and an Aero AR25 resonator.
I currently have a base 07, running Aero AR25, no mid, and TypeS catbacks, and I tell you.. it sounds sweet.
I currently have a base 07, running Aero AR25, no mid, and TypeS catbacks, and I tell you.. it sounds sweet.
10-22-2008, 12:43 PM
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^^ As I stated before, you will NOT fail emissions with the 3rd cat delete because there are no O2 sensors in the 3rd cat. You will ONLY fail emissions if you delete the pre-cats which have an O2 sensor. And even then, if you get an O2 simulator you will be able to pass.
10-22-2008, 01:27 PM
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^^ You're right. You will not pass emissions with the pre-cats deleted. I got emissions and CELs confused, go figure ha. You WILL pass emissions with the 3rd cat delete though since the pre-cats do most of the work
10-26-2008, 05:26 PM
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Well went from stage 1 to stage 3 yesterday.. didnt really make that much of a difference IMO.. Sounds ok though.. Def wanna upgrade to ATLP though..
Oh BTW Choiboyy.. No CEL
There are alot of videos up showing the sound of exhaust but I dont think they depict the sound accurately.. So I will be doing a short clip pretty soon just for the hell of it..
Oh BTW Choiboyy.. No CEL
There are alot of videos up showing the sound of exhaust but I dont think they depict the sound accurately.. So I will be doing a short clip pretty soon just for the hell of it..
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When adding a dynomax/mag res & the mid delete, do you need to disconnect the battery to reset the computer or just run it a few times for it to recalibrate. Also, since the car is under warranty, if I have to carry it in, will it void it or possibly get a bunch of bs thrown back at me. Thanks!
11-06-2008, 09:38 PM
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I dont think you need to recalibrate the exhaust, its not really changing anything performance wise.. Just makes it sound cooler.. lol
And Warranty wise, it will obviously void the warranty on your exhaust but you should not have any issues with any other problems. FYI I took my car in today because of heater problems, and they said nothing about it.
BTW.. A little off topic, but they gave me an 08 TSX loaner.. This thing really sucks.. Slow ass hell, feels cheap.. like a TL imitation.. I dont even wanna drive the thing..
And Warranty wise, it will obviously void the warranty on your exhaust but you should not have any issues with any other problems. FYI I took my car in today because of heater problems, and they said nothing about it.
BTW.. A little off topic, but they gave me an 08 TSX loaner.. This thing really sucks.. Slow ass hell, feels cheap.. like a TL imitation.. I dont even wanna drive the thing..
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it takes a few days, maybe a week or so to let the new resonator "break-in". my stage 2 wasn't sound too good in the first week or so... now it's been 7 months and it sounds a lot nicer than first week, i do realize that the hotter the exhaust is, the louder it will sound, weird.
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i took the mid muffler out like 4 weeks after i got the car...ive got the jpipe/race pipe coming...thinking of changing out the resonator to a dynomax or something...
11-09-2008, 02:09 PM
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I just did the mid muffler delete, got a thick 2.5" stainless pipe and got it TIG welded at my speed shop (for Chicago winter road...) and in combo with the ATLP Jpipe and racepipe the sound is just where I want it, def not drony or high pitch, real happy it with the mod!! I posted it to.. (taped the camera on the back bumper haha!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqTJFcW8kfs
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wow thats a great vid, usually you cant really tell what it sounds like if the engine isnt under a load. i thought about doing it but i didnt like the idea of my camera bouncing down the road.