njdread

Wusup guys. I'm new to the TL community and have been researching a lot of mods and upgrades. My question is, is the J37 IM & TB mod worth doing on an '07 TL Type S 5AT ?? Looking to get as much N/A bolt on power that I can

FamilyGuy

Yes it is and have your runners PnP'd with them.

TheTLProject

I have every bolt on minus pulleys on my base auto and I can tell you that you'll feel a huge difference in the performance especially after a tune. Only thing I have not done is PNP my intake runners.

Oh Sickest TL

iTrader: (3)

yea I enjoyed this mod a lot. def change the throttle response and the overall feel of the car. I didnt pnp my runners but the TB was bored

EvilVirus

iTrader: (8)

OP been researching but never came across TLproject multi threads.......try again.


Anyway, search his threads; rather scattered around but rather informative nevertheless GL

njdread

Thanks everyone

TheTLProject

Still waiting for the ability to delete threads lol...I've created such a mess with all my different things going on

FamilyGuy

Nothing is deleted. It all stays stored away on google servers lol

njdread

I did as much searching as I could before I posted anything. Just never saw a straight answer as to whether its worth the money to do this mod. Seems like everyone says all the power to be made is with the 6spd MT versions.

Oh Sickest TL

iTrader: (3)

autos still make power lol

TheTLProject

The reason our autos are frowned upon is because a) the reliability and b) the god awful gearing.

gnuts

iTrader: (1)

ask TLProject how much he's spent for the hp gained. Then think hard about modifying your auto.

FamilyGuy

What we mean is the manuals are worth it more because you can get into the 300hp range and the gearing is ok enough to keep up with today's cars. The autos start lower in power and gearing is terrible so even with all the bolt ons you'll be hard pressed to keep up even with a modern family sedan. Your car will still be more pleasing to you with an extra 40-50hp but if performance is a main goal for you on a 3G TL either get a manual or boost your auto, but if boosting prepare yourself for big investment and many break downs.

TheTLProject

I'll make it easier for him to decide if he wants to mod his auto by showing him my list of pricing for all the stuff I have bought -

Money Spent On Car

Aftermarket -

AEM Cold Air Intake : $300.00
ATLP V2 J-Pipe : $379.00
ATLP Hi-Flow 3rd Cat (removed) : $295.00
JE Test Pipe : $120.00
RV6 Hi-Flow PreCats : $529.00
XLR8 Base Dual Cat-Back : $949.00
Vibrant 2.5 inch UQ Resonator : $92.00
P2R J32 Throttle Body Spacer (removed) : $119.00
P2R J37 Throttle Body Spacer : $115.97
P2R J37 Intake Manifold Spacer : $174.97
J37 Intake Manifold + TB Conversion Kit : $810.00
AEM FIC : $440.00
AEM FIC Adapter Harness : $289.00
EndlessRPM Blue Front Tow Hook : $22.00
Pro-Tune : $380.00

Repairs -

o2 sensors x2: $180.00
Driver's side axle: $300.00

Deletes -

Rear Muffler Delete + Tip Re-Welding: $180.00

$5294.94 + $2500 for shipping fees and shop labor fees.

Grand Total - $8354.94

anx1300c

iTrader: (2)

^^
$2500 for shipping and labor fees? Did you at least get some flowers and dinner before you got violated?

TheTLProject

The reason shipping was so high is because I did overnight or 2 day on everything lmao. Outside of that shop labor was 90 an hour which isn't really that bad

FamilyGuy

Ups ground my man

maharajamd

iTrader: (1)

Nice list with parts and prices but what did they all amount to power wise?

TheTLProject

230whp on a dynapack, 263whp on a DynoJet. DynoJet number hasn't been confirmed yet but a friend of mine had all the same mods minus J37 stuff and made 253whp on one. So I'm sure I make at least 260whp with that taken into consideration. His was auto too. Same year.

maharajamd

iTrader: (1)

So $900 for the manifold crap netted you about 10whp? Is that what people are finding? I stopped paying attention around here when people truly started doing that mod.

TheTLProject

Yeah sounds about right. I'm sure the 6spd makes more with the mod.

TheTLProject

10-12hp more or less

gnuts

iTrader: (1)

so it looks like $8,354.94 for 30whp. Or $278.50 per whp. I'm busting your balls a bit TLProject, but the OP should know what the end result would be and the money spent to get there.

maharajamd

iTrader: (1)

Lol. Damn the TL!

I'd totally do the manifold kit mod but only if I could tune.

TheTLProject

Remember it was on a dynapack. Actually WHP is much higher at 260+

TheTLProject

Pulls WAY harder than a 230whp car would

TheTLProject

DynaPacks simulate real world load onto the wheels, DynoJets are inertia based roller style. Making 230whp on a Dynapack is a damn good number for a base model TL.

njdread

$810 for the J37 conversion kit ???? I found it $400 less.

maharajamd

iTrader: (1)

Dang $400.... that's not bad.

TheTLProject

I'm talking about the IM and also the TB.

TheTLProject

810 total for both.

TheTLProject

But, since I can't EDIT MY GODDAMN POSTS after more than 5 min pass, I guess I'll have to explain myself every time

6spd-GERCO

Until you have the numbers please refrain from stating the numbers you would make on a Dynojet. It's a educated guess at this point but not measured, let the Dynapack results do the talking. Take that thing down the track, that would be a great way to add to the data you have.

Do you have printout of the graphs for the dyno runs?

TheTLProject

I have everything anyone would ever need. Watch every video I've ever posted. Read every video description I've ever written. My OCD made sure that if people doubted, they can watch the videos and PAY ATTENTION to what is being said. Regardless what the numbers are, it doesn't drive like a 230whp car at all. That's not debatable. I don't make this shit up. 250whp is totally believable with my mods after a mild FIC tune on top.

Now go.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXu...6gteAqtawIGq5g

TheTLProject

Don't worry, I have all the dyno sheets in my glovebox along with all my other paper work for maintenance and repairs. I prepared myself for doubters way ahead of time my man.

Oh Sickest TL

iTrader: (3)

Whats the AEM FIC do? Im really not that familiar with all that ECU type of stuff

TheTLProject

Not to mention, people will take me a lot more seriously when I make the decision to sell the car.

TheTLProject

It's a poor mans tuning option more or less. It's the closest thing I can get to a full tune. On my car it allows air fuel ratio tuning but nothing else. No VTEC adjustment and no timing advance. It's really meant for cars with turbos and supercharged applications so that you can retard timing if there's engine knock but outside of that it won't do much on an NA car. It was the only option outside of paying a grand and a half almost for a full blown standalone J&R ECU

TheTLProject

Which is way out of the budget.

Oh Sickest TL

iTrader: (3)

right, what year is yours? Cuz I'm 06 auto and I can't get flashpro