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Old 03-04-2014, 09:54 PM
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^ and yet he made more power then your SC TL-S.
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Originally Posted by thisaznboi88
^ and yet he made more power then your SC TL-S.
Well im 2lbs of boost, under normal boost levels.. His dyno is legit tuned n iverlooked by doug @hondata himseld. Of course its a beast
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
This thread is doing quite well on the Accord forum. Very few people care about performance here, so please, take a shot.
Well for one just throwing out a whp number and a trap speed out there isnt correct overall powerband and tq numbers are to be taken into consideration also. I cant make a prediction on what an accurate number is, ive seen dragging car on slicks net lower trap speeds n lower ET's due to wheel diameter. All im saying to just say 292whp is (insert mph) isnt accurate. Shit my nissan made maybe 260's n trapped 106mph lol
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Let's just all meet and settle this over a street race. Winner will be deemed right, and loser will be deemed wrong.
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I'd be pissed that someone talked about my numbers and mods on a different website...

It's interesting no doubt, but I believe our J32/35 can put out a lot more. The TLs cams to those accord guys are like a stage 2 upgrade, imagine people making billet stage 2 aggressive cam profiles for our cars, we still have power to make still.

The sky is still the limit and no one has yet reached to pushed it.
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Originally Posted by bouncer07
I'd be pissed that someone talked about my numbers and mods on a different website...

It's interesting no doubt, but I believe our J32/35 can put out a lot more. The TLs cams to those accord guys are like a stage 2 upgrade, imagine people making billet stage 2 aggressive cam profiles for our cars, we still have power to make still.

The sky is still the limit and no one has yet reached to pushed it.
Not true. http://www.tbmotorworx.com pushed it and they dyno'd over 400 whp on a j35. So I guess we know what is possible. If someone wants crazy n/a power. Call them up. They make a custom cam just like your talking about.
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Just I haven't seen it breaking any records out at the strip or make magazine headlines.
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Originally Posted by paperboy42190
sounds like you still havent learned. Please go read a physics book if you want to prove me wrong.
George...da fuq is wrong wichu...

every comment is "read a physics book"

you telling that there will be no difference in the trap speed and ET depending on how much tire tread you have left of between all season and slicks?

come on dude...or is it an inside joke which am missing out on?
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He must be an engineer. lol
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Originally Posted by swoosh
George...da fuq is wrong wichu...

every comment is "read a physics book"

you telling that there will be no difference in the trap speed and ET depending on how much tire tread you have left of between all season and slicks?

come on dude...or is it an inside joke which am missing out on?
Which is why I stopped talking about it all together. I've seen this with my own eyes. So it's w/e though I will say this is generally more true for higher Hp cars.

Anyway, I also got permission to post this from the original fella who did all this.

On another note, as someone stated we do have billet cams available for a pretty penny.
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People and their 1/4 mile traps and their dyno numbers... If he makes 300 whp, he should be trapping XXX MPH... this theory is true... doesnt matter what 1/4 mile times you have because for all we know, you could be running in denver miles high track and have 105MPH and go to a near sea level track and run better numbers but have about the same trap speed.
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Originally Posted by paperboy42190
Let's just all meet and settle this over a street race. Winner will be deemed right, and loser will be deemed wrong.
I'm sure I can beat you in my Accord.
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Originally Posted by bouncer07
People and their 1/4 mile traps and their dyno numbers... If he makes 300 whp, he should be trapping XXX MPH... this theory is true... doesnt matter what 1/4 mile times you have because for all we know, you could be running in denver miles high track and have 105MPH and go to a near sea level track and run better numbers but have about the same trap speed.
hahah true...

exactly what am trying to say....both method have variables....just because you put down 280 on the dyno, does not mean you will do the 1/4 mile in 12 seconds...

so lets just move past it...
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Originally Posted by swoosh
George...da fuq is wrong wichu...

every comment is "read a physics book"

you telling that there will be no difference in the trap speed and ET depending on how much tire tread you have left of between all season and slicks?

come on dude...or is it an inside joke which am missing out on?
I did not say there is absolutely no correlation, but this thread has gone derailed far enough. If anyone wants to discuss this matter more deeply, please PM me.

But honestly though I don't mean insult in what I said, it's just I am technical about things and every argument in a debate should be backed up by facts. And physics is facts. By saying "read a physics book" it simply says I would like to discuss this like adults.

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Originally Posted by NvrDwn
I'm sure I can beat you in my Accord.
Very immature comment. Not once did I say I want to race you. Plus my post was for the previous posters and the red text means I was being sarcastic.
If you were being sarcastic too you should use red text.
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Originally Posted by paperboy42190
I did not say there is absolutely no correlation, but this thread has gone derailed far enough. If anyone wants to discuss this matter more deeply, please PM me.

But honestly though I don't mean insult in what I said, it's just I am technical about things and every argument in a debate should be backed up by facts. And physics is facts. By saying "read a physics book" it simply says I would like to discuss this like adults.
well the thread has gone down the drain because of weird comments about time slip and the about reading some 'physics book'....

bald tires/not shifting properly/not launching properly will all affect the trap time and speed....guy never mentioned anything about doing to a drag strip am not sure why this thread took that direction...
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NvrDwn doesn't understand sarcasm :p
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Originally Posted by paperboy42190
Very immature comment. Not once did I say I want to race you. Plus my post was for the previous posters and the red text means I was being sarcastic.
If you were being sarcastic too you should use red text.
Lol I know what red text means. This is an open thread which means anyone may reply to any post. I was being sarcastic, however now that you mention it, I also have no doubt my car is faster.
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however now that you mention it, I also have no doubt my car is faster.
Just gonna leave this quote here to show how immature this post is for future viewers. It's amazing how immature people can feel good about themselves by saying their car is faster than someone else's.
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Oh will you donkeys knock it off already? There are TOO many variables to say one way is better or more accurate than another. In theory and text books things should be xxx, in practice and reality things are often different. Just leave it at that
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
But if they're corrected to SAE in both instances, that takes the elevation variable out of the equation; they're both corrected to sea level. Your car didn't get any faster with the higher dyno numbers.

BTW, are you still running a base tune or are you dyno/e-tuned yet??
Still base tune for the accord. It seems to be doing ok according to my wideband. Haven't had time to meet up with my friend to get dyno tuned. Ive been helping work on and move into his new house all month. Plus now we're on opposite work schedules.
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Dont bash on this thread n the numbers. It is legit. If u see this tune n all the changes made to the engine than youll understand. I think this guy is using a harness from boomslang n trust me this is a race motor. Pistons cylinder heads n stuff must be upgraded and not stated.
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Originally Posted by kingkong_dav
Dont bash on this thread n the numbers. It is legit. If u see this tune n all the changes made to the engine than youll understand. I think this guy is using a harness from boomslang n trust me this is a race motor. Pistons cylinder heads n stuff must be upgraded and not stated.
No...
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Originally Posted by bouncer07
I'd be pissed that someone talked about my numbers and mods on a different website...

It's interesting no doubt, but I believe our J32/35 can put out a lot more. The TLs cams to those accord guys are like a stage 2 upgrade, imagine people making billet stage 2 aggressive cam profiles for our cars, we still have power to make still.

The sky is still the limit and no one has yet reached to pushed it.
I def dont think sky is the limit but it is sometimes a tad embarrassing for such an aged car there really isnt any progress on the limitations except only naming maybe 3 or 4 ppl out of a section of thousands.. I get this isnt the best platform for modding but neither are a lot of platforms which seem to have stepped out the box of "intake header exhaust= fully bolted".. ido think we should be seeing more 310+whp type S and 280+whp bases... but sometimes you wonder if ppl really tried n fail and you just dont hear about it
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
I def dont think sky is the limit but it is sometimes a tad embarrassing for such an aged car there really isnt any progress on the limitations except only naming maybe 3 or 4 ppl out of a section of thousands.. I get this isnt the best platform for modding but neither are a lot of platforms which seem to have stepped out the box of "intake header exhaust= fully bolted".. ido think we should be seeing more 310+whp type S and 280+whp bases... but sometimes you wonder if ppl really tried n fail and you just dont hear about it

it all comes down to tune...

fully bolted base 6MT run 280-ish and Type S 6MT run very very close to 300....all without a tune...a good tune will bump them a good 15whp+ and running healthy
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Originally Posted by swoosh
it all comes down to tune...

fully bolted base 6MT run 280-ish and Type S 6MT run very very close to 300....all without a tune...a good tune will bump them a good 15whp+ and running healthy
I totally agree with you man
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Originally Posted by NvrDwn
Trap speed is dependent on traction. If your spinning you are not accelerating as quickly in a given distance, thus lower trap speed.
You've got it backwards, dude. ET is traction dependent. Trap speed is all about power to weight. When you're spinning, you're still gaining forward momentum and when you do eventually hook, the momentum will show itself in the trap speed. It's uncanny how little variance there is the trap speed even if you miss a shift. You can blow the tires off and run a 15 flat @ 103 and the next run hook a 2.10 and run 13.8 @ 103.
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
Well for one just throwing out a whp number and a trap speed out there isnt correct overall powerband and tq numbers are to be taken into consideration also. I cant make a prediction on what an accurate number is, ive seen dragging car on slicks net lower trap speeds n lower ET's due to wheel diameter. All im saying to just say 292whp is (insert mph) isnt accurate. Shit my nissan made maybe 260's n trapped 106mph lol
Yeah, but your Nissan weighed what, in the 3200 lb range? The 5.5 Gen Maxima 6MT could put down serious numbers with 260+ whp due to their relatively light weight and deeper gearing. The slight torque advantage the VQ has over the J doesn't hurt either. There was a guy with a 5.5 G , ~ 285 whp running 12.70-80 @ 107-108 on slicks.
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^those maximas are surprisingly fast for family sedans
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He was a member here also, his name was sparksmax... But nvmd him... I think you get what im saying.... Too many factors to just throw out there to say what the car will do mph wise
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Originally Posted by swoosh
it all comes down to tune...

fully bolted base 6MT run 280-ish and Type S 6MT run very very close to 300....all without a tune...a good tune will bump them a good 15whp+ and running healthy
Chris Miller tuned my car and I made 6whp/8wtq. And only above 4000 RPMs. But I think there is untapped power in there. I was on the dyno for less than an hour
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Chris Miller tuned my car and I made 6whp/8wtq. And only above 4000 RPMs. But I think there is untapped power in there. I was on the dyno for less than an hour
Definitely the tuner, man. Same tuner that LOST power with the aem. Go to someone who will actually take the time to tune your car correctly
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i been telling him that. find someone that knows how to tune a j. they might be good at k series but j are a new beast.
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Originally Posted by Sonnick
Chris Miller tuned my car and I made 6whp/8wtq. And only above 4000 RPMs. But I think there is untapped power in there. I was on the dyno for less than an hour
that was quick (thats what she said )


check out the AFR and timing chart (if you have)...will give you an idea of how much more to expect

and who am I telling...you know this shit wayyy better than I do LOL
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Why didnt you go with more aggressive cams than the type s? like bishimoto?
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More like 305/252 SAE. mods update thread name
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More like 305/252 SAE. mods update thread name
This is true. That is the man with the car Makin the numbers! It's nice to see what a little work to the j30a(5)? Can do!
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He is j30a4
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