bTwix

My eShift cats are toast and throwing CELs so decided to upgrade to the turbo kit w/ ecu. Rodney has my unit ready to ship and already have the ecu.

I was looking for something a little more low key, so am planning the following setup:
- JnR turbo, ecu w/ knock
- dump tube back into exhaust and 3rd hi flow cat 200 cell
- wideband, tru boost, plugs
- conservative tune on stock internals
- Excelerate 75A mounts

And retaining my existing:
- ATLP exhaust (base)
- aspec + progress rear sway + nero zero M+S

I'll have an ATLP jpipe coming on the black market soon.

Any good shops in the Seattle area for turbo install + tune?

Suggestions for last minute changes? I was thinking about upgrading internals, but thought I'd start here with a conservative tune and work my way up.

Looking for a reliable stealth DD, that will be fun to drive around town and open up on the highway.

Cheers

libert69

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Lose the hi flow 3rd cat. Do not need.

Dump tube into the exhaust is a good idea. I had an open dump since the beginning and it just doesnt sound right. Its too loud and will drown out your exhaust note. PLus the atlp quads sound real nice so you dont want to lose that sound.

Whats your definition of conserative? IMO if you plan to have anything less then 400whp then your wasting your money on a turbo kit and might as well get a S/C.
400whp is certainly within the realm of reliable and conservative with this kit and the oem internals.

Excelerate mounts are junk IMO. The mounting bracket broke on my front mount a long time ago before I even had the turbo. We just pulled the motor and the bracket on the rear mount is now broken. The mounting tab is too thin. Go with innovative mounts. I wil admit that the excelerate mounts have stronger bushings then innovative but I think their hardware is not up to par with innovative. My 75a excelerate bushing is still in perfect shape where as I have made the 85a innovative bushing go doughnut. 95a innovative bushings all around for me now

TheChamp531

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Glad to have another person with a turbo. Keep us updated please!

thisaznboi88

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Wow broken mounts. Someone must be breaking necks?

KN_TL

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If you are getting the J&R ECU then you don't need a boost controller. Only the solenoid.

I am personally going to try a 100 cel cat in the 3rd position. The smell is a bit overwhelming to me. It sticks to you like bad cologne.

J-Pipe will be tossed.

P1zzaman

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Good luck man! But turbo != low key

bTwix

libert69: thinking 400-420 whp on stock internals to start, then an engine build if I want to go higher. Good info on the mounts, I'll use innovative mounts instead. For a 400 whp build will 85a suffice, or should I just go directly to 95a? On MT with 95a will I notice much more vibration during normal city/highway driving or at idle? I went with the Excelerate 75a to avoid excessive vibration, bummer about the mount snapping. We'll be taking this on long road trips and don't want my wife too pissed off about massive vibration.

KN_TL: which solenoid did you use?

I've got a couple shops on deck for the install, but if you know of someone really good in the Seattle area, esp. a good tuner ...

KN_TL

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I'm one of the earlier purchasers so I had the tru boost before I got the ECU. I am still using both except the solenoid is connected to the MS3 and the controller is disabled and just being used as a gauge.

I have the IM 85a's and the vibration is noticable, especially with the AC on.

Skier4lyfe303

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I have a J&R ECU and Im getting a turbo kit also, was looking at getting the HKS EVC 6, but your saying I cant use it other than for a gauge?

KN_TL

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No, not at all. You can decide what controller you want to control the boost. You'll have the vacuum/boost line connected to both the ECU and the gauge.

ABP_04TL

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I wouldnt say XLR8 mounts are junk, if u drive the car like u stole then down the line shit is going to fuck up u know, which is what happened to that mount, i know a few ppl who have XLR8s mounts and they r like a charm!

OP good stuff definetly post up when u get all of that done

KN_TL

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You are talking about people who are not producing the kind of power some are, especially people like libert69, bmeyer, etc.

If you look at the failure point of the xlr8 mounts, it exploited a weak point in the design. If the durometer of the mount supports a certain amount of HP it shouldn't matter if it's driven like a grandmother on Sundays or driven like it stolen.

ABP_04TL

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I understand clearly what you mean, im not sure but is this the first time it happened to XLR8s mounts?

Inaccurate

I agree with KN_TL. If it can't take it, I don't want it. By "it", I mean any part in general. I don't want to go around baby-ing something because it might break.

Inaccurate

I agree here too. The jury is still out. This one failure might be just a fluke. Everything made is susceptible to a fluke here and there. And, it doesn't mean that the product as a whole is bad. One or two flukes are acceptable in my opinion, even with the best of brands.

Even with something as important as a brake rotor. RB two-piece rotors have been known to break apart at the rivets holding the two pieces together. Did this stop me from buying it. No. I am willing to trust that the couple of failures were flukes and that I would be ok. Hopefully, this will not be my "famous last words".

KN_TL

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^definitely agree with that. I am not saying anything against the xlr8 mounts, I don't think there are enough installed on high HP rides that are being taken to their limits to determine it a design failure.

If I donut the IM mounts I have now, I am likely to try Josh's units. Maybe go to the point of adding some gusseting if the design remains the same.

libert69

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This the second time these mounts broke on me

First time the front mount broke in the exact same place as above. BUT it broke BEFORE I had the turbo installed.

Now the rear mount is broken in the same place

Junk

KN_TL

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^Have the bushings held up and are the bushings between the two companies sized differently? Just wondering if we could swap the xlr8 bushings into IM brackets.

What does Josh have to say about this?

Inaccurate

Ok, I officially retract my previous replies. Please change my replies to be

"No comment"


@ KN_TL,

Is the Nile a river in Egypt?‎

KN_TL

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Guess I am asking too much. There are posts trying to sell stuff but no response to this.....oh well.

TheChamp531

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^ouch

libert69

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The bushings are fine. When the first xlr8 front mount broke, all the mounts on the car were xlr8 mounts with 75a bushings. Keep in mind this was pre-turbo

When the rear xlr8 75a mount broke (post turbo), the front mount was the 85a innovative mount.

Josh sent me a new bracket for the front mount a long time ago. Havent told him about the rear mount yet

handsom-hustla

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OP. for the cost a shop my charge to install a custom turbo kit, why not consider flying Rodney out to install and tune?? looking forward to your build coming together..

FCVadi

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KN, to confirm the J-pipe is replaced by the J&R turbo piping correct? so it is tossed anyway due to install

and on a seperate note was thinking of gettng this 3" cat

http://www.stainlessworks.net/produc...gn-3-ends.html

or

http://www.ultrarev.com/144-30000u.html

KN_TL

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Yes, everything from the heads down goes.

I've got something similar to your 2nd reference. Still haven't tried it though.

213swampy

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im glad im not the only one getting a turbo this month when will you have everything complete, I'm heading down to florida this month on the 13th to get the kit install. hopefully i can get the car back at the end of the month!

gwiffer

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^bTwix hasn't been on since starting this thread

Inaccurate

Last Activity: 11-23-2011 4:04 PM

Confirmed. Good catch ppypants.

KN_TL

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But I don't think anyone is referencing the OP recently. Just hitchhiking on a old thread.

FCVadi

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I like thread jacking.. well thread hitchhiking..

pass427

he might be off for a bit but his build is well on the way ,with a good build and clutch ect i will update as we get his build on the way..stay tuned

bTwix

Sorry guys. Been slammed. Things are coming along. Will be shipping car to Rodney for install once all parts are ready. Decided to build the engine a bit more. Will update as things progress.

KN_TL

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What did you do? Major build or minor stuff?

bouncer07

Whats the price of this all added to?

bTwix

- JnR clutch
- Pauter rods
- pistons
- rod bearings
- crank bearings
- valve train
- oil cooler

I opted for a more extensive build than I probably needed, but didn't want to leave anything to chance:
- base kit + ecu w/ knock sensor came to approx $6K
- extra engine build + clutch approx $6K

swoosh

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sub'd

KN_TL

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Wow, a bit more is a gross understatement . Was/Is all the engine work done by Rodney?

bTwix

Rodney's doing all the engine work. Should be getting underway as soon as the clutch is ready.

FCVadi

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this is awesome... want to go down the same path with the engine rebuild/update.. good to know what it will look like and cost

bTwix

Quick update ... just waiting on pistons now, then the build begins.

Rodney is setup in Florida and has things dialed in there, so better to ship the car to him and have it done right.