I'm full bolt on-what's next ?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-21-2013, 11:42 AM
  #1  
Instructor
Thread Starter
 
Brennan8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Ohio
Posts: 118
Received 9 Likes on 8 Posts
I'm full bolt on-what's next ?

So I'm full bolt on and I'd like to keep making power I'm an auto tl type s full bolt on and tuned.just wondering what all there is for our cars I've read some stuff about nitrous with a built motor just chime in if you have any cool ideas or know of any cool builds thanks
Old 07-21-2013, 11:57 AM
  #2  
Suzuka Master
 
pohljm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 5,065
Received 591 Likes on 455 Posts
6mt swap
Old 07-21-2013, 01:19 PM
  #3  
J-series addict
iTrader: (4)
 
yungone501's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Plano, Tx
Posts: 2,363
Received 614 Likes on 464 Posts
What are your overall goals and budgets? Desired HP levels, cars purpose (street/track), your skill levels, what are you willing to invest and how far are you wanting to go for power?

As you me mentioned, you can do internals and really wake the bolt on mods up -OR- you can go with an easy wet shot of nitrous (25-75hp)...and if you really wanna play, you can do a build. Problem is if this is your dd, you'll need a spare engine to build and j35a8 engines aren't cheap even used. I bought my j37a1 block (basically a j35a8 with 90mm cylinders) brand new at Acura for around $700. Why buy a used j35a8 for $800-1400 when all you can really use is the block (maybe) and a few of the rotating components? The j37 bottom end components are just about the same price (some cheaper) as the j35a8.
Old 07-21-2013, 01:34 PM
  #4  
Instructor
Thread Starter
 
Brennan8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Ohio
Posts: 118
Received 9 Likes on 8 Posts
Looking for around 350 I want my car to take off harder it just seems so slow off the start and it kills every race I'm in
Old 07-21-2013, 02:14 PM
  #5  
Pro
iTrader: (1)
 
AccordFlex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Baltimore
Age: 35
Posts: 634
Received 213 Likes on 135 Posts
Would help if you listed what bolt on parts you have done so we can point you in the right directions. We have no idea if that means PnP runners, motor mounts, clutch etc.
The following users liked this post:
Grand_hustle17 (07-21-2013)
Old 07-21-2013, 04:24 PM
  #6  
Burning Brakes
 
Grand_hustle17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Age: 37
Posts: 814
Received 95 Likes on 84 Posts
List of mods would be nice lol.... Cams and zdx manifold could be next... You did say you want 350whp, be nice to know how much you make now lol
Old 07-21-2013, 04:52 PM
  #7  
KCCO
 
MarcoNorthPolo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Age: 50
Posts: 1,355
Received 192 Likes on 173 Posts
Have you got one of these?

http://www.yourhotcar.com/prod/Torna...Charger/17725/
Old 07-21-2013, 07:51 PM
  #8  
J-series addict
iTrader: (4)
 
yungone501's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Plano, Tx
Posts: 2,363
Received 614 Likes on 464 Posts
^^^Approved.

You need torque and that's EXACTLY what the 3.7 is all about.

Increasing displacement is the only true way to gain an appreciable amount of torque. Especially for the j-series as they are high reving motors and make their power up top. I remember the first time I put my foot down on our last MDX (2007) with the 3.7, I was shocked at how easy the motor pulled the weight with ease. And now that we have a later model MDX (2010), the engine in conjunction with the 6-spd auto really wakes the motor up all through out the engines powerband.

Otherwise, nitrous is an immediate form of torque.
Old 07-22-2013, 07:54 AM
  #9  
Burning Brakes
 
bouncer07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,150
Likes: 0
Received 182 Likes on 140 Posts
Get rims, coilovers, alarm, etc. Make the outside look good as the inside.
Old 07-22-2013, 10:52 AM
  #10  
Instructor
Thread Starter
 
Brennan8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Ohio
Posts: 118
Received 9 Likes on 8 Posts
Pcd jpipe full exhaust all rv6 cai aem and tuned with hondata making 265 whp
Old 07-22-2013, 11:02 AM
  #11  
Race Director
iTrader: (1)
 
maharajamd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 13,382
Received 1,544 Likes on 1,197 Posts
- 3.7 / zdx mods
- cams
- pnp and gasket match

Would be what I do next.
The following users liked this post:
Grand_hustle17 (07-23-2013)
Old 07-22-2013, 11:04 AM
  #12  
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
justnspace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 86,295
Received 16,260 Likes on 11,971 Posts
lol at brennan...with no real goals in sight.
Old 07-22-2013, 12:26 PM
  #13  
Pro
 
NvrDwn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Franklin County Virginia
Posts: 677
Received 132 Likes on 91 Posts
You are not full bolton.
The following 6 users liked this post by NvrDwn:
99blackhatch (07-24-2013), alexSU (07-23-2013), Atlas.46 (07-23-2013), Grand_hustle17 (07-23-2013), justnspace (07-22-2013), sockr1 (07-22-2013) and 1 others liked this post. (Show less...)
Old 07-22-2013, 01:21 PM
  #14  
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (1)
 
Excelerate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: www.ExceleratePerformance.com
Age: 43
Posts: 9,877
Received 624 Likes on 478 Posts
If you really want to do full bolt ons I'd recommend our XLR8 lightweight crank pulley, P2R thermal gaskets, XLR8 Engine Mounts and ETD, P2R ported runners, and also some suspension and brake upgrades. If you need more info or advice email me at sales@excelerateperformance.com
The following 2 users liked this post by Excelerate:
alexSU (07-23-2013), killer8rican (11-27-2013)
Old 07-22-2013, 01:44 PM
  #15  
under renovations....
iTrader: (2)
 
CubanLynx84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: BX-YO
Age: 46
Posts: 1,473
Received 49 Likes on 41 Posts
but he is Boltonizing.....
Old 07-22-2013, 01:58 PM
  #16  
Racer
 
Chessie724's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: West Chester, PA
Posts: 487
Received 52 Likes on 32 Posts
Originally Posted by CubanLynx84
but he is Boltonizing.....
I don't always bolt on when I mod, but when I do...

The following 5 users liked this post by Chessie724:
99blackhatch (07-24-2013), maharajamd (07-22-2013), Morrissey25 (07-23-2013), SharksBreath (07-22-2013), Sonnick (07-22-2013)
Old 07-22-2013, 02:11 PM
  #17  
under renovations....
iTrader: (2)
 
CubanLynx84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: BX-YO
Age: 46
Posts: 1,473
Received 49 Likes on 41 Posts
Old 07-22-2013, 02:12 PM
  #18  
Deezy ™
iTrader: (2)
 
whoismiked's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Dallas,Tx
Age: 42
Posts: 277
Received 90 Likes on 63 Posts
Originally Posted by Brennan8
every race I'm in
What kind of racing are you doing?

Do you track your TL? Road course? or Drag?

Or do you do fast & furious stop light street racing Paul Walker style?

One thing to keep in mind good sir, is that this is a 3500~ LBs 4 door luxury sedan, not really much of a 'race' car without some serious build.

Surprisingly enough though the TL can be a great track car with the right setup and skills.


*Disclaimer: I am by no means against performance mods ... but I am not a fan of kids who street race on public streets, no offense.

Last edited by whoismiked; 07-22-2013 at 02:16 PM.
The following users liked this post:
Marcelechka (07-22-2013)
Old 07-22-2013, 02:36 PM
  #19  
Pro
 
NvrDwn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Franklin County Virginia
Posts: 677
Received 132 Likes on 91 Posts
Pcd jpipe full exhaust all rv6 cai aem and tuned with hondata making 265 whp

Lets break this down in case you are not understanding.

RV6 exhuast imo isn't enough for a full bolt on car. You need a 3" to dual 2.5" exhaust.
Next PnP runners
Then PnP intake manifold and TB OR 3.7 intake manifold and ZDX TB.
Lastly UDP (debatable)

To go further you can take out weight and/or get some lighter wheels.
Old 07-22-2013, 02:36 PM
  #20  
under renovations....
iTrader: (2)
 
CubanLynx84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: BX-YO
Age: 46
Posts: 1,473
Received 49 Likes on 41 Posts
The following users liked this post:
Grand_hustle17 (07-23-2013)
Old 07-22-2013, 02:59 PM
  #21  
Rawr.
 
Marcelechka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Bellevue, WA
Posts: 1,334
Received 715 Likes on 421 Posts


1) Determine what your goals are!
- Us speculating here does you no good...

2) Budget for it!
- Without funds, dreams are dreams...

3) Execute!
- Don’t talk about it, be about it...

Hope this helps; good luck with the build.
The following users liked this post:
EvilVirus (07-22-2013)
Old 07-22-2013, 07:16 PM
  #22  
KCCO
 
MarcoNorthPolo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Age: 50
Posts: 1,355
Received 192 Likes on 173 Posts
Originally Posted by Richkid1102


1) Determine what your goals are!
- Us speculating here does you no good...

2) Budget for it!
- Without funds, dreams are dreams...

3) Execute!
- Don’t talk about it, be about it...

Hope this helps; good luck with the build.
1. I want some ice cream.
2. It's already paid for and in the freezer.
3. I'm going to get some ice cream.
True story!
The following 2 users liked this post by MarcoNorthPolo:
99blackhatch (07-24-2013), tomlinsonj (07-22-2013)
Old 07-22-2013, 07:25 PM
  #23  
#1 Super Guy!
 
94eg!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 2,335
Received 510 Likes on 367 Posts
Originally Posted by pohljm
6mt swap
This really IS the next best step by far for better driving experience.

Other than that, I would say Nitrous for instant torque. Though I honestly can't remember a time when I didn't have enough torque available to break the front wheels loose off the line. If you're expecting additional torque/power to get you off the line, you are sorely mistaken.
Old 07-22-2013, 09:20 PM
  #24  
Intermediate
 
SixtwoPinoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: san jose, ca
Age: 40
Posts: 45
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
i agree, if you really want to compete a manual transmission should've been your first modification.
Originally Posted by pohljm
6mt swap
Old 07-23-2013, 03:03 AM
  #25  
Slot Machine Lubricator
iTrader: (2)
 
1black_seven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: KS/TX
Posts: 1,883
Received 404 Likes on 316 Posts
If money is no object, J37A2 with SH-AWD 6MT. Bolt it up with a tune.
The following users liked this post:
alexSU (07-23-2013)
Old 07-23-2013, 07:51 AM
  #26  
Rawr.
 
Marcelechka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Bellevue, WA
Posts: 1,334
Received 715 Likes on 421 Posts
Originally Posted by MarcoNorthPolo
1. I want some ice cream.
2. It's already paid for and in the freezer.
3. I'm going to get some ice cream.
True story!
Old 07-23-2013, 07:55 AM
  #27  
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
justnspace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 86,295
Received 16,260 Likes on 11,971 Posts
there's a full race engine in the blackmarket...
Brennan, since you dont know what you are doing, you should buy it!!!
The following 2 users liked this post by justnspace:
99blackhatch (07-24-2013), maharajamd (07-23-2013)
Old 07-23-2013, 12:12 PM
  #28  
KCCO
 
MarcoNorthPolo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Age: 50
Posts: 1,355
Received 192 Likes on 173 Posts
A comptech SC would be a bolt on mod.
Old 07-23-2013, 12:32 PM
  #29  
Pro
 
NvrDwn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Franklin County Virginia
Posts: 677
Received 132 Likes on 91 Posts
Originally Posted by MarcoNorthPolo
A comptech SC would be a bolt on mod.
A fully built motor is bolted on, so that qualifies as a bolt on right??
Old 07-23-2013, 02:43 PM
  #30  
under renovations....
iTrader: (2)
 
CubanLynx84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: BX-YO
Age: 46
Posts: 1,473
Received 49 Likes on 41 Posts
Originally Posted by NvrDwn
A fully built motor is bolted on, so that qualifies as a bolt on right??
not quite.... a fully built motor is built up not only with bolt ons but internals, cams, pistons, pnp, stroker kit etc... all he has is external bolt ons, I/H/E, UD pulley stuff like that.
Old 07-23-2013, 02:52 PM
  #31  
350
My first ricer
iTrader: (4)
 
350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Willow Grove, PA
Posts: 1,521
Received 256 Likes on 211 Posts
High stall torque converter and you won't worry about off the line.
Old 07-23-2013, 03:13 PM
  #32  
The Boss
 
Nick216's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: New York
Age: 30
Posts: 1,475
Received 321 Likes on 227 Posts
OP has now realized he is indeed not even close to full bolt ons.
Old 07-23-2013, 04:22 PM
  #33  
Pro
 
NvrDwn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Franklin County Virginia
Posts: 677
Received 132 Likes on 91 Posts
Originally Posted by CubanLynx84
not quite.... a fully built motor is built up not only with bolt ons but internals, cams, pistons, pnp, stroker kit etc... all he has is external bolt ons, I/H/E, UD pulley stuff like that.
I guess I should have used red text
Old 07-23-2013, 04:34 PM
  #34  
under renovations....
iTrader: (2)
 
CubanLynx84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: BX-YO
Age: 46
Posts: 1,473
Received 49 Likes on 41 Posts
Originally Posted by NvrDwn
I guess I should have used red text
would've helped a bit
Old 07-23-2013, 05:13 PM
  #35  
Safety Car
iTrader: (8)
 
EvilVirus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Houston
Posts: 4,227
Received 1,120 Likes on 893 Posts
Old 07-23-2013, 05:23 PM
  #36  
KCCO
 
MarcoNorthPolo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Age: 50
Posts: 1,355
Received 192 Likes on 173 Posts
Originally Posted by CubanLynx84
not quite.... a fully built motor is built up not only with bolt ons but internals, cams, pistons, pnp, stroker kit etc... all he has is external bolt ons, I/H/E, UD pulley stuff like that.
Where did you go to school, Killjoke University? lol
Old 07-23-2013, 06:00 PM
  #37  
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
justnspace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 86,295
Received 16,260 Likes on 11,971 Posts
Originally Posted by Nick216
OP has now realized he is indeed not even close to full bolt ons.
he'll come back and say "but I dont have time to research"
Old 07-23-2013, 06:07 PM
  #38  
Safety Car
iTrader: (8)
 
EvilVirus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Houston
Posts: 4,227
Received 1,120 Likes on 893 Posts
^ I don't know how many times I have told him to research.
Old 07-23-2013, 06:08 PM
  #39  
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
justnspace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 86,295
Received 16,260 Likes on 11,971 Posts
Originally Posted by EvilVirus
^ I don't know how many times I have told him to research.
until he does; his threads will always always turn out like this
Old 07-23-2013, 07:04 PM
  #40  
KCCO
 
MarcoNorthPolo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Age: 50
Posts: 1,355
Received 192 Likes on 173 Posts
There always seems to be a point where a thread goes off the rails. In this thread I'd say it was post #16


Quick Reply: I'm full bolt on-what's next ?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:42 AM.