How Many HP Gain Am I Expecting ?
10-27-2009, 11:30 PM
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How Many HP Gain Am I Expecting ?
Hey guys , need your helps again !!!
I am getting the ATLP J-pipe, ATLP high flow metallic cat, ATLP Rpipe test pipe and AEM V2 CAI for my 07 Tl type-s , this is gonna be my first mod all at once, so approximately how many hp gain am i expceting ? and am i missing anything here in order to make everything on the list work ??? any suggestions or advises would be appriciated ...Thanks in advance guys..
I am getting the ATLP J-pipe, ATLP high flow metallic cat, ATLP Rpipe test pipe and AEM V2 CAI for my 07 Tl type-s , this is gonna be my first mod all at once, so approximately how many hp gain am i expceting ? and am i missing anything here in order to make everything on the list work ??? any suggestions or advises would be appriciated ...Thanks in advance guys..
10-28-2009, 12:32 AM
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Well I'm assuming you're buying from HeelToeAuto, but you're not overpaying, but some items aren't as "great" as the others. J-pipe is the best performance mod for the price IMO. Pre-Cat Delete would be next, but you probably want to pass your emissions (unless you can find another way out). Third is the catback. CAI's are only useful for sound, very little, if any, HP increase.
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10-28-2009, 12:41 AM
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You can find the A SPEC body kit via Tim @ HondaAcuraWorld.com the GB price is 792$ which includes shipping and handling for the whole thing. Pre-Cat deletes will add 30 WHP alone (mostly from mid-to-high end), but you will be deleting your cats so you won't pass emissions. Best thing would to do is jpipe + pre-cats = 40WHP gained. Spend the rest on looks like the body kit.
10-28-2009, 12:43 AM
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http://r-.ecrater.com/product.php?pid=2480194 For pre-cats
http://www.hondacuraworld.com/Mercha...egory_Code=ATL For the Body kit
Stock size if you're going to ever Turbo or S/C your car or put excess weight like a amplifier and/or sound system.
Underdrive Pulley if not, but they will show very minimal difference, maybe 1-2 HP max.
http://www.hondacuraworld.com/Mercha...egory_Code=ATL For the Body kit
Stock size if you're going to ever Turbo or S/C your car or put excess weight like a amplifier and/or sound system.
Underdrive Pulley if not, but they will show very minimal difference, maybe 1-2 HP max.
10-28-2009, 11:06 AM
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Hey guys , need your helps again !!!
I am getting the ATLP J-pipe, ATLP high flow metallic cat, ATLP Rpipe test pipe and AEM V2 CAI for my 07 Tl type-s , this is gonna be my first mod all at once, so approximately how many hp gain am i expceting ? and am i missing anything here in order to make everything on the list work ??? any suggestions or advises would be appriciated ...Thanks in advance guys..
I am getting the ATLP J-pipe, ATLP high flow metallic cat, ATLP Rpipe test pipe and AEM V2 CAI for my 07 Tl type-s , this is gonna be my first mod all at once, so approximately how many hp gain am i expceting ? and am i missing anything here in order to make everything on the list work ??? any suggestions or advises would be appriciated ...Thanks in advance guys..
Why are you getting a High Flow cat AND a Race Pipe? Don't they go in the same space; it's one or the other?
Like:
Pre-Cat Deletes --> J-Pipe --> Race Pipe OR Hi Flow Cat --> resonator --> Mid muffler --> Mufflers & Tips
10-28-2009, 09:25 PM
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duh, thanks man for the correction , i am still learning, ,,,it's kinda embarrassing ...
oh, btw, this mod thing is really addicting guys, ever since i became a AZ member , i have been spending a few hours a day at least just reading all the posts, and thinking of all the things i wanna do to my car , i mean it's crazy, but i love it , i will eventually get my car to look good, then i ll post pictures, can't wait guys....so bear with me for a little......
oh, btw, this mod thing is really addicting guys, ever since i became a AZ member , i have been spending a few hours a day at least just reading all the posts, and thinking of all the things i wanna do to my car , i mean it's crazy, but i love it , i will eventually get my car to look good, then i ll post pictures, can't wait guys....so bear with me for a little......
10-28-2009, 09:35 PM
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Is $ 200 more for the hi-flow cat worth it than the R-pipe ??
And also i notice that a lot of you guys have the v2 CAI too, do you guys ever worry about it getting submerged in water ? and well, you know what would happen next..
And also i notice that a lot of you guys have the v2 CAI too, do you guys ever worry about it getting submerged in water ? and well, you know what would happen next..
10-28-2009, 10:25 PM
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duh, thanks man for the correction , i am still learning, ,,,it's kinda embarrassing ...
oh, btw, this mod thing is really addicting guys, ever since i became a AZ member , i have been spending a few hours a day at least just reading all the posts, and thinking of all the things i wanna do to my car , i mean it's crazy, but i love it , i will eventually get my car to look good, then i ll post pictures, can't wait guys....so bear with me for a little......
oh, btw, this mod thing is really addicting guys, ever since i became a AZ member , i have been spending a few hours a day at least just reading all the posts, and thinking of all the things i wanna do to my car , i mean it's crazy, but i love it , i will eventually get my car to look good, then i ll post pictures, can't wait guys....so bear with me for a little......
IMO, the AEM V2 is a waste of money, all CAI's (well most of them) are created equal, and it is not worth the extra dough. The only way it will hydrolock (or, submerge in water) is if your car literally is submerged in water. At that that time, your car is f*cked anyways.
10-28-2009, 10:55 PM
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You can find the A SPEC body kit via Tim @ HondaAcuraWorld.com the GB price is 792$ which includes shipping and handling for the whole thing. Pre-Cat deletes will add 30 WHP alone (mostly from mid-to-high end), but you will be deleting your cats so you won't pass emissions. Best thing would to do is jpipe + pre-cats = 40WHP gained. Spend the rest on looks like the body kit.
10-29-2009, 12:11 AM
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not if your catback remains stock!
to get full advantage of cat deletes and jpipe, the rest of the exhaust should also be upgraded with larger pipe (at least 2.5") and better flowing mufflers
think of it this way.. if ur cat deletes are 2.5" + jpipe 2.5" run into smaller catback creates bottlenecking. In other words, the full potential of deleted cats and jpipe hits a stumbling block
somewhat of the same theory goes for fully upgrading ur catback to larger pipe and better flowing mufflers (except theres no bottlenecking) , when there's no increase in flow between the catback and the motor. This is not to say that it would't make a difference at all, it does to some extentl, but its full potential still remains uncovered until you really free up the exhaust path close to the motor.
Increasing the flow right off the motor to the end of the Jpipe as much as possible is by far the most important and will create the biggest gains, especially from mid range all the way to the redline...but doing so with an undersized catback to handle the extra flow would result in reduced potential of the whole upgrade right after the heads.
hope this clears up any confusion
to get full advantage of cat deletes and jpipe, the rest of the exhaust should also be upgraded with larger pipe (at least 2.5") and better flowing mufflers
think of it this way.. if ur cat deletes are 2.5" + jpipe 2.5" run into smaller catback creates bottlenecking. In other words, the full potential of deleted cats and jpipe hits a stumbling block
somewhat of the same theory goes for fully upgrading ur catback to larger pipe and better flowing mufflers (except theres no bottlenecking) , when there's no increase in flow between the catback and the motor. This is not to say that it would't make a difference at all, it does to some extentl, but its full potential still remains uncovered until you really free up the exhaust path close to the motor.
Increasing the flow right off the motor to the end of the Jpipe as much as possible is by far the most important and will create the biggest gains, especially from mid range all the way to the redline...but doing so with an undersized catback to handle the extra flow would result in reduced potential of the whole upgrade right after the heads.
hope this clears up any confusion
10-29-2009, 01:40 AM
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hoolaTL-s you sound exactly like me man ive been searching on these forums for hours daily just deciding what i want to do to my type s, its totally stock performance wise. From what i've learned on these forums, i would highly recommend getting the UR pulley in addition to the mods you listed...seems like it is one of the best, if not the best mod for the money*
10-29-2009, 11:09 AM
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10-29-2009, 11:12 AM
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hoolaTL-s you sound exactly like me man ive been searching on these forums for hours daily just deciding what i want to do to my type s, its totally stock performance wise. From what i've learned on these forums, i would highly recommend getting the UR pulley in addition to the mods you listed...seems like it is one of the best, if not the best mod for the money*
10-29-2009, 04:07 PM
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It's funny how people say CAI's make no power when according to the dyno's on Azine they make about 5-8whp, about the same gain a CBE makes.
Well I'm assuming you're buying from HeelToeAuto, but you're not overpaying, but some items aren't as "great" as the others. J-pipe is the best performance mod for the price IMO. Pre-Cat Delete would be next, but you probably want to pass your emissions (unless you can find another way out). Third is the catback. CAI's are only useful for sound, very little, if any, HP increase.
10-29-2009, 04:13 PM
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I thought you only had to worry about underdrive pulley's with a SC not a TC? Or is it because they might slip?
10-29-2009, 05:33 PM
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I'm not on crack, and you need to stop assuming you're right. 20-25 WHP sounds more reasonable, but 30 WHP isn't out of the question either. Proven on most dyno sheets from members that it gains 20 WHP at least.
Our version of headers for our cars are the pre-cat deletes. RV6 Pre-Cats, XLR8 Jpipe, 3rd cat delete, catback exhaust would yield you at least 40WHP, probably 45-50 WHP.
Our version of headers for our cars are the pre-cat deletes. RV6 Pre-Cats, XLR8 Jpipe, 3rd cat delete, catback exhaust would yield you at least 40WHP, probably 45-50 WHP.
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10-30-2009, 12:31 AM
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hey, take it easy guys......you guys sound like teenagers sometimes...
oh, i am from toms river btw, i go to fort dix sometimes for target practicing at ranger 14... blast some romanian AK, AR 15 , 308, you name it , i got it . fun as hell....hope none of you is an anti-gunist..haha.
oh, i am from toms river btw, i go to fort dix sometimes for target practicing at ranger 14... blast some romanian AK, AR 15 , 308, you name it , i got it . fun as hell....hope none of you is an anti-gunist..haha.
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i would love to get the cat-back too, but i also like my stock quad , XLR8 looks nice, but it's $ 1k, i simply can't afford that right now. any other recommendations? even if i could afford the catback, how much more would i have to spend on the other components in order to get the whole exhaust done ???
10-30-2009, 01:05 AM
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i would love to get the cat-back too, but i also like my stock quad , XLR8 looks nice, but it's $ 1k, i simply can't afford that right now. any other recommendations? even if i could afford the catback, how much more would i have to spend on the other components in order to get the whole exhaust done ???
Just don't like misinforming anyone, if I'm wrong I'll admit it! Anyways what is your budget? We can start from that.
10-31-2009, 12:22 PM
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Hoola, I'm with you. Just purchased my first type-s and i'm itching to mod. I love the look of the stock quads, but the sound isn't quite "mean" enough for me. Would a CAI be the answer I'm looking for? Technically this car is replacing my wife's old one, but that may have to change!!
01-09-2010, 01:12 PM
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Full of water...
it can totally happen...its a risk you take. i unfortunately hit a looong puddle that was probably bottom of car deep...but i hit it at 30-40mph which was the killer. the water that was now in the engine was drained and it was oil flushed many times over, but after 3 months it blew a rod through the block and trashed. i ended up getting a used engine with less miles, but still used. anywho, just something to think about. i still have it on, but every time it rains at night i get a little nervous.
01-09-2010, 01:18 PM
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It might be if you're worried about emissions in your state. The R-Pipe is just a straight piece of pipe.
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duh, thanks man for the correction , i am still learning, ,,,it's kinda embarrassing ...
oh, btw, this mod thing is really addicting guys, ever since i became a AZ member , i have been spending a few hours a day at least just reading all the posts, and thinking of all the things i wanna do to my car , i mean it's crazy, but i love it , i will eventually get my car to look good, then i ll post pictures, can't wait guys....so bear with me for a little......
oh, btw, this mod thing is really addicting guys, ever since i became a AZ member , i have been spending a few hours a day at least just reading all the posts, and thinking of all the things i wanna do to my car , i mean it's crazy, but i love it , i will eventually get my car to look good, then i ll post pictures, can't wait guys....so bear with me for a little......