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Hi, I got a 04 6-speed Tl and I love to drag race. I have been to the track a couple times and the results are posted below. The only thing done to the car is a CAI. I am worried about the strength of the factory manual transmission. Have any of you drag race guys had any problems? This is my first Japanese car. I'm running street tires and cutting 2.2 to 2.3 60ft times. I'm probably going to bolt on a pair of Mickey T radials and see how fast the car really can go.
That's a pretty solid time, especially considering the DA was 1691 at the time of that run. It corrects to a 14.1 @ 100.1 mph, which is strong as hell for just an intake! Your car is on the stronger side for sure, unless that's a fast track.
FYI, there's a racing & competition section for this stuff.
Nice time, man. I go to the track relatively often and the trans holds up well unless you grind a lot, which I had done. I had to get a new trans because I broke 2nd gear. However, I also shift gears like my life is on the line (lol) so I'm sure that didn't help. I've been taking it easy on the new trans tho. You can get into the 13s in better weather and a better launch. Any plans on modding the car further?
Yes, I plan to replace the exhaust, bolt on some DRs and skinnies, and maybe spray it till the engine gives up. The fact its not my daily driver is a plus. A clutch will be on order soon as well.
What's wrong with your clutch? How many miles? I just hit the big 100k Friday and my clutch is holding strong, knock on wood. And trust me, I've got more than a few no lift shifts under my belt, lol.
124,000 miles. I didn't know there was any other type of shifting at the track. My 2nd to 3rd shift I can feel the clutch slip. Its a never ending battle more traction and power = more slip. I dont see it lasting much longer. Its fine on the street but 7k rpm powershifts are going to kill it.
I would worry about the clutch, then axles on some Mickeys. MT's aren't anything like what most people think of drag radials. They make Nittos seem like they're made of plastic.
I've got some 245/45-17 Nitto DR's I was running on the stock wheels a few years ago. TBH, my 235 Continental DW's (summer tires) hook just as well, if not better on the street.
I should find a set of lightweight 17's to mount the Nittos on and see if I can cut a 1.9x sixty foot. I'm just so sick of dumping money into this damn car though. 105K service is coming up and I'm thinking of doing some MDX cams at the same time. Plus, I need either snows or all seasons for the stock wheels. All that'll run a good $2500. And these damn Contis are only good for two summers, so I need them every other spring. I'd probably save $ if I bought a 335, lol.
If my clutch goes any time soon, I'm setting the damn car on fire.
If you continuously Powershift and are going to get DRs, your clutch & flywheel will need to be replaced. Ask me how I know.......
I now have the CM FX250 and LW flywheel, so I will be back to the track soon. Unfortunately it will most likely be on street tires and maybe even my stock catback...either way I miss it
124,000 miles. I didn't know there was any other type of shifting at the track. My 2nd to 3rd shift I can feel the clutch slip. Its a never ending battle more traction and power = more slip. I dont see it lasting much longer. Its fine on the street but 7k rpm powershifts are going to kill it.
Have you removed the check delay valve from the slave cylinder? That should help a bit.
I haven't removed the check valve. Im new to the TL game so I have never heard of this check valve. The world I come from we still have adjustable cables to work the clutch.
14.3 is crazy for a stock tl with just an intake. Next time you go post a vid =)
There was actually a 13.9 @ 99 mph on a base model 6MT with just an intake way back in 2007. The planets were well aligned that night. Think his sixty was like 2.10-2.15
There was actually a 13.9 @ 99 mph on a base model 6MT with just an intake way back in 2007. The planets were well aligned that night. Think his sixty was like 2.10-2.15
Yea that was done by Type-s 09 way back. He had CAI/Pulley from what I remember, nonetheless that's the best I've seen for such little mods. I went 14.04 @99.71 (best trap 100.82) with CAI/RV6 V1 Jpipe way back too. That was with a 2.24 60' I believe. Unfortunately it took me forever to run 13s after that
Agreed on both points. CBR's times still haven't been beat. I think he had I/Jpipe/PCDs/Ported intake and runners. Did he have weight reduction?
Yea thats my friend... He had stock j-pipe IIRC and gutted all the cats and rv6 j-pipe.. He did have weight reduction.. Seats out.. I cant remember if passenger seat was in
I plan to go back to the track next month. I have a friend with a G8 trying to break into the 11s. We are hoping for some cool air and a Low DA. I will put my go pro in the car and get my girl to video the next time I run the car.
Stock 7G has gone as fast as 14.2 @99 bone stock from what I've seen in Canadian air. I ran 14.0 @100 with I/Jpipe and some dude way back went 13.9 @ 101 with I/E. The 8G 6MTs are faster than even the TL-s in bone stock form, some going 13.8 @ 102.x
Ive got a mechanic friend of mine who is suggesting a 6MT swap from the Accord. Wondering if they were both (8th V6/TL-S) the same car minus LSD.
I'm almost positive the bell housings are different on the J35a8 and 7G Accords. And the Accord doesn't have LSD, so I wouldn't necessarily go with that suggestion lol.
probably not worth your hassle at this stage in the game to swap to an accord 6mt transmission. And the LSD on the TL is a big help. Any gearing differences between the two in stock form won't amount to much.
FWIW the guy who bought my TL-s put a Stage 3 clutch in, had a problem with 2nd gear and couldn't shift into it so he had to go 1 -> 3 -> 4 and still ran 13.8 @101 on his first time out, even without 2nd gear. You can get some decent times in the 13's if you have decent flow and good enough driver mod to make good 60'
I am loathing the auto in my type-s so ive been entertaining ideas.
I am still mostly geared to a K24 RSX and just save the TL as a cushy car.
I "drove" a b18 civic with a stage 2 last week. I dont know how folks do it but that was brutal. The car was flailing like I'd never drivin stick before.
It really depends on what clutch too. My Clutchmasters FX250 feels just like stock yet I know Simione's Spec Stage 2+ (?) is very stiff. Some people like it soft and some like it stiff (yea I said it), it really depends.
I like a stiff clutch. I have yet to do the ss clutch line, and remove the check valve, but I get the bad slip if I try to hammer gears too. Other vehicles have distracted me this season lol
So this checkvalve mod. I looked at a couple forums that show how to do it. Has anyone done this and did you shave anytime off your 1/4 mile? Did it really help with the clutch slipping during high rpm shifts?
09-28-2014, 04:51 PM
