DIY turbo idea for cheap? LOL
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Looks like I will be using this to make the brackets
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Math equation for picking out air filter
1.Square inches of filter required for a motor = CID x Maximum RPM / 20839
2.CFM required for a 4 stroke motor = CID x Maximum RPM / 3456
3.CFM required for a 2 stroke motor = CID x Maximum RPM / 1728
4.CFM required for a turbocharged or supercharged motor = Pounds of Boost / 14.7
Add 1.0 to this answer. This relates to #2 and #3
Example: (CID x maximum RPM x #4 ) / 3456 or 1728
5.To find circumference of a circle multiply diameter by 3.1416
6. To find diameter of a circle multiply circumference by .31831
CFM Formulas for Filters
Round: Diameter x Height x 6 x 3.14
Flat Panel: Length x Width x 6
Universal Round Taper: (Base + Top) / 2 = A
Take A x Length x 6 x 3.14
Universal Round Straight: Diameter x Length x 6 x 3.14
borrowed from this website
http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/turbo/airfilter.html
1.Square inches of filter required for a motor = CID x Maximum RPM / 20839
2.CFM required for a 4 stroke motor = CID x Maximum RPM / 3456
3.CFM required for a 2 stroke motor = CID x Maximum RPM / 1728
4.CFM required for a turbocharged or supercharged motor = Pounds of Boost / 14.7
Add 1.0 to this answer. This relates to #2 and #3
Example: (CID x maximum RPM x #4 ) / 3456 or 1728
5.To find circumference of a circle multiply diameter by 3.1416
6. To find diameter of a circle multiply circumference by .31831
CFM Formulas for Filters
Round: Diameter x Height x 6 x 3.14
Flat Panel: Length x Width x 6
Universal Round Taper: (Base + Top) / 2 = A
Take A x Length x 6 x 3.14
Universal Round Straight: Diameter x Length x 6 x 3.14
borrowed from this website
http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/turbo/airfilter.html
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Here is a parts list
Turbo Kit (down pipe, turbo manifold, turbo)
Intercooler
oil pan
distribution block
oil filter and lines
battery box
dremel bits
turbo rebuild kit
turbo gasket
breather filter
steel zip tie
rdx injectors
waste gate spring
blow off valve tube
blow off valve
reducer coupler
waste gate
Vacuum line splitters block
Manual Boost controller
Rear O2 sensor
intercooler pipe
Paint
Brake cleaner
Boost Gauge
Slim Fan
2.5in flange
Hose for turbo
oil pan labor
Exhuast labor
silicon hose
51 inch oil feed line
npt adapter to 4an
bsp/npt adatper
Front sensor 02
3in flex pipe
Turbo 4 bolt to vband
2.5 to 2.5 4 bolt to vband
turbo housing
Amp wiring kit
crimper tool
3 to 2.5 in exahust adapter
K&N Air filter
spark plugs
J pipe gasket
Gauge bezel
Heat Wrap
Wastegate Gaskets
Battery Tray sold
Oil Catch can
oil cooler
exhaust hanger
Ik22 spark plugs
yeah don't expect to build a turbo kit for less than 3-4k, and plan on buying extra parts because stuff didn't fit right or stuff breaks
Turbo Kit (down pipe, turbo manifold, turbo)
Intercooler
oil pan
distribution block
oil filter and lines
battery box
dremel bits
turbo rebuild kit
turbo gasket
breather filter
steel zip tie
rdx injectors
waste gate spring
blow off valve tube
blow off valve
reducer coupler
waste gate
Vacuum line splitters block
Manual Boost controller
Rear O2 sensor
intercooler pipe
Paint
Brake cleaner
Boost Gauge
Slim Fan
2.5in flange
Hose for turbo
oil pan labor
Exhuast labor
silicon hose
51 inch oil feed line
npt adapter to 4an
bsp/npt adatper
Front sensor 02
3in flex pipe
Turbo 4 bolt to vband
2.5 to 2.5 4 bolt to vband
turbo housing
Amp wiring kit
crimper tool
3 to 2.5 in exahust adapter
K&N Air filter
spark plugs
J pipe gasket
Gauge bezel
Heat Wrap
Wastegate Gaskets
Battery Tray sold
Oil Catch can
oil cooler
exhaust hanger
Ik22 spark plugs
yeah don't expect to build a turbo kit for less than 3-4k, and plan on buying extra parts because stuff didn't fit right or stuff breaks
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Trunk full of gold LOL good luck bet you are ecxited
and where did you get that gauge cluster ?
and where did you get that gauge cluster ?
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I forgot, are you doing this on a stock motor? You should plan on running e85 on this beast regardless of boost pressure. And also, the heat greatly affects the engines resistance (or there of) to knock. I generally don't suggest low temp thermostats but if it's tuned for using FP, I'd definitely consider it. It's a known fact that the monoport heads were designed to pull heat from the exhaust to keep the EGT's down which means it's then absorbed and transferred to the coolant. Higher temps come along with increased power which will put a tremendous stress on the cooling system. Low temp thermostat and a lower closed loop threshold will keep detonation at bay. Combine this with the e85 and you will see reliability that nobody else has seen yet...I assure you.
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Bad day. Tons of shit had to be fabricated and it wasn't direct plug and play. I am soo pissed right now.
need to add new SS clutch line because the turbo was hitting the hard lines. Also had to pull the stock vacuum line.
oil pan went off easy and had the new bung welded
Oil cooler won't work because it hangs a little too low.
Oil Feed line install.
Paul suggest to use this intercooler
chop my intercool to make it fit
Oil pan finally work!
turbo Test mounted
need to add new SS clutch line because the turbo was hitting the hard lines. Also had to pull the stock vacuum line.
oil pan went off easy and had the new bung welded
Oil cooler won't work because it hangs a little too low.
Oil Feed line install.
Paul suggest to use this intercooler
chop my intercool to make it fit
Oil pan finally work!
turbo Test mounted
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We still need to do the intercooler, oil return line, figure out how to mount the damn wastegate and dump tube, maybe move the radaiator hose so that it does not touch the waste gate and melt, wire tuck everything so that the turbo doesn't NOM NON NOM shit up, and then.... then do the down pipe and then actually bolt it up. Yeah I hate life right now.
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I think I am just going to keep going. I have access to a lift for the time being and my fabricator/mechanic is try to help me out the best he can. So yeah I am glad I did not do it alone. I would be crying. Tons of new parts being fabs that I have not posted pics yet.
I can only run 93 oct. WV hates e85 rolling coal no love for that corn. So yeah I am kinda in a bind right now... Either push forward leave the car with the mechanic and have him complete it while I go on vacation again. lol Everything I can't fix shit I go on vacation.
I can only run 93 oct. WV hates e85 rolling coal no love for that corn. So yeah I am kinda in a bind right now... Either push forward leave the car with the mechanic and have him complete it while I go on vacation again. lol Everything I can't fix shit I go on vacation.
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Major setback today...
The down pipe will not work on my car. It is hitting everything, heater core hose, engine harness, transmission counter weights, and basically everything in that corner... The only thing we got done was the intercooler piping, the intercooler is now mounted, and w.e we got done yesterday So turbo mounted with all feeds going in and out, wastegate, dump tube, and a few other things. But can't really do anything since without the down pipe everything is going to fry
I also missed my window to cancel the appointment with Innovative-motorworks. So I will probably lose my 100 deposit . Hopefully, Derek is willing to work something out with me, but I won't get my hopes up.
Took a few hours to machine this little thing to adapt to my turbo and weld on to the intercooler.
The down pipe will not work on my car. It is hitting everything, heater core hose, engine harness, transmission counter weights, and basically everything in that corner... The only thing we got done was the intercooler piping, the intercooler is now mounted, and w.e we got done yesterday So turbo mounted with all feeds going in and out, wastegate, dump tube, and a few other things. But can't really do anything since without the down pipe everything is going to fry
I also missed my window to cancel the appointment with Innovative-motorworks. So I will probably lose my 100 deposit . Hopefully, Derek is willing to work something out with me, but I won't get my hopes up.
Took a few hours to machine this little thing to adapt to my turbo and weld on to the intercooler.
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Left the car at my mechanic/fabricator Tuesday night. Had to take a rental home back to where since I have work Thursday and Friday and am leaving the country sunday. He should be getting the material in today and have it done by the end of this weekend. I will be in China for 3 weeks.
Sooo the bill racked up pretty fast. Was shooting for 3k at the beginning of the build and it looks like it is going to be around 5k. So yeah cheap + turbo doesn't work out too well.
Labor bill so far was 600. But that down pipe might be 300-500, and I lost 100 deposit at the dyno tuner for now showing up weds. So yeah do not attempt unless u have a spare car and deep pockets because anything that can go wrong will go wrong
Sooo the bill racked up pretty fast. Was shooting for 3k at the beginning of the build and it looks like it is going to be around 5k. So yeah cheap + turbo doesn't work out too well.
Labor bill so far was 600. But that down pipe might be 300-500, and I lost 100 deposit at the dyno tuner for now showing up weds. So yeah do not attempt unless u have a spare car and deep pockets because anything that can go wrong will go wrong
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Don't feel bad, my bill for labor will be $5,000 for the current engine rebuild. Another $3,000 -$4,000 in parts for the rebuild. I have had a lot of bad luck with having installs done while I'm on vacation. Shit goes wrong, extra money needs to be spent and it messes up your vacation. I was in Italy last month during my build and told the shop not to call me just figure it out. Last 3 times I have been in Mexico was during work of some sort on the car and issue after issue comes up that cost money and delay the finish date.
It is nice to have it done when you get home but that never happens. Every build I have ever done or been a part of goes south at some point near the end that's what's hard to budget for. My car is all done on the dyno geting tuned and the fuel pump died, tuner busy for next two weeks. The build has been pretty smooth so I expected a bump in the road like a failed fuel pump and cracked tranny housing
It is nice to have it done when you get home but that never happens. Every build I have ever done or been a part of goes south at some point near the end that's what's hard to budget for. My car is all done on the dyno geting tuned and the fuel pump died, tuner busy for next two weeks. The build has been pretty smooth so I expected a bump in the road like a failed fuel pump and cracked tranny housing