hata_61

here's a list of the parts you may need if you decide to do the swap. i dont know if there is a extensive list or not, but for the people that are looking for them, here they are:

45018-SEP-A60 CALIPER SUB-ASSY., R. FR. -calipers with pins and spring
45019-SEP-A51 CALIPER SUB-ASSY., L. FR. -calipers with pins and spring

45022-SEP-A60 PAD SET, FR.- Brembo OEM pads

51210-SEP-A01 KNUCKLE, R. FR.
51215-SEP-A01 KNUCKLE, L. FR.

57450-SEP-A01 SENSOR ASSY., R. FR. -wheel speed sensor (if req'd)
57455-SEP-A01 SENSOR ASSY., L. FR. -wheel speed sensor (if req'd)

45251-SEP-A51 DISK, FR. BRAKE (17 in.) x2 -rotors,Brembo blanks

45255-SEP-A50 SPLASH GUARD, R. FR. -backing plate
45256-SEP-A50 SPLASH GUARD, L. FR. -backing plate

90651-SEP-A50 CLIP, R. CALIPER x2 -shim between bolt,knuckle and caliper
90656-SEP-A50 CLIP, L. CALIPER x2 -shim between bolt,knuckle and caliper

90107-SEP-A50 BOLT, CALIPER MOUNT x4-caliper to knuckle bolts

44300-SDA-A52 BEARING ASSY., FR. HUB x2 - wheel bearings(if req'd)

01464-SEP-A50 HOSE SET, R. FR. BRAKE- flex hose with brakets and clips
01465-SEP-A50 HOSE SET, L. FR. BRAKE- flex hose with brackets and clips

46335-SEP-A50 PIPE G, R. BRAKE - flex hose to caliper steel line
46336-SEP-A50 PIPE G, L. BRAKE - flex hose to caliper steel line


flexhoses,pads,rotors can be replaced with aftemarket goodies.

AnthraciteAspec

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Nice list, I recently did the conversion as well. I definately recommend getting stainless steel lines and different pads. OEM pads are a rip off I got my Rotex Kevlar Golds online for $40 + shipping. I also got some aftermarket rotors but the stock rotors are good as well.

This should be added to the 3G Garage make a new listing called Brembo Conversion.

ILLustriousUA6

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x2. very nice thread.

ILLustriousUA6

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a link to get these parts would be nice as well =)

hata_61

i found that getting them through the local dealer is a better deal(shipping). just ask them for a cash deal and they will give it to you wholesale. which is about a 15% discount. I'm so glad this actually helped. i also got some SS lines on the way. and i got hawk HPS with the OE rotors. Mods could you sticky or 3g garage this???

wyc830531

I was doing some research on what I need to order for the Brembo convserion on my 5AT and what parts I needed....this post was perfect..THX

c2pid

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nice list...how much did the whole thing ran you? parts and/or labor. cdn prices of course!

hata_61

um......... it was just under $2000 CDN. I got the calipers with the knuckles off ebay but one of the knucles were bent and that meant a new wheel bearing since i was at it. and both of my ABS sensors were rusted solid in the original knuckles so that bumped up the price.

My calipers came with Hawk pads in them so i saved about hundread bucks there.
I recommend you go with aftermarket rotors and pads. I couldnt wait a couple weeks for EBC rotors to come in and acura had 1 day service for all of the parts i needed,thats the only reason why i went with the OEM brembo blanks.

c2pid

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Thanks for the info....I am waiting for the complete Rotora BBK kit to come in. Ordered the 4 piston fronts w/ slotted & drilled 2 piece rotors, and the 2 piston rears w/ slotted & drilled 2 piece rotors.

I spoke to the local dealer before I pulled the trigger...and they were going "ho and hum" about the OEM brembo swap. So forget about them!

ssmtl2nv

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good job on the parts list......

hata_61

Sweet, the rotora kits are pretty nice and less work to put in too! Gotta show me some pics when they are in!! but do they clear the OEM rims??

I did all of my own parts research cause most of those dealer parts guys dont want to spend the time to look and compare the difference between type-s and normal TL front end components.

I called with all those part numbers i needed and got them to order it cause i dont trust anyone else looking up parts except me!

hata_61

thanks bro! so how your swap working for ya???
I just put in some SS brake lines and Motul DOT 5.1 fluid. i can definitly feel the difference

ssmtl2nv

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swap went good, just gotta swap the fluid all around now, only had time to bleed the fronts...

ssmtl2nv

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90651-SEP-A50 CLIP, R. CALIPER x2 -shim between bolt,knuckle and caliper
90656-SEP-A50 CLIP, L. CALIPER x2 -shim between bolt,knuckle and caliper

never installed these two clips, what difference does it make, I have 2k on them and no cons.

Red89gt

Nice, let us know how the install goes and pic's when done.
Can you use the base TL wheels with the rotora bbk?

I hate cars

You guys realize the 13" Wilwoods are about half the price....

masterpayne

Dam I need those too. had no idea I would need to change so many things..........

hata_61

if you can find a crashed type s, then you can swap the knuckle assembly's. that would be alot easier

Toyoland66

Buying all new parts I come up with $1,337 without shipping

Opel

^^^^^isnt a Big Brake Kit better than doing a swap then? you end up with better rotors too...and especially for those who can't do the work themselves!

hata_61

yup, there would be less labour involved with an aftermarket BBK, just 2 bolts for the caliper bridge and a banjo bolt for the flex hose and thats about it for removal. with the OEM swap its alot more work.a good mint set of rotora's might be a better deal.....

dave_ramkumar

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how would i know if i need thoes 'if req'd' Parts?

detailinguy99

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I just found a brand new set of Brembos on ebay starting at 400 or so. I would still need all the items you were talking about above for the swap? Kinda seems pricey.

detailinguy99

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How many inches are the Brembos that come with the 6spd?

dave_ramkumar

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thx alot dude this helped my do my conversion

acura_dipset_tl

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this is one of my next projects

ILLustriousUA6

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nice list.. i might need this for the future.

gatoferoz25

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Hey people dont wait to long for this conversion is really good and better the regular calipers good luck for all those that still waiting for it....

I hate cars

Sorry, I missed this one a long time ago.

12.2" 4 pot calipers. More than enough for daily driving especially with a good pad. Almost enough for hard track use and more than enough for auto-x.

Something to think about, didn't NSXs come with 11.7" 2 piston front rotors originally? I realize they're a few lbs lighter and probably have significantly better rear brakes with a more rearward bias but it was common for sports cars to have <12" brakes not that many years ago.

I couldn't be happier with my $800 (BM) 13" Rotoras. Even the $85 (BM) Rotora rears with an ultra aggressive pad $200 work extremely well together. Basically $1,100 for a kick ass braking system which is less than it costs to convert to the Brembos or about the same used for used.

binhsterbinh

The TL Brembo swap would be worth it if you can find the parts used for cheap. Otherwise, there are aftermarket BBK's that will be bigger and better for the same cost of a new Brembo Swap ($1200-1300).

I personally went with the '06 RL 4 piston calipers and 350z Racing Brake 12.6" slotted rotors and couldn't be happier. It required having a custom aluminum bracket made for the custom fitment to the TL knuckle but it was worth the wait. With EBC Yellowstuff pads, my whole front setup was around $900 using high quality rotors/pads.

Rockauto has the TL-S Powdercoated brembos for $105+45 core charge per re-manufactured caliper. That's about $300 for the full front set. Add the knuckles and various other parts in, you're looking at around $900-$1000 as well.

They also have 1 Front Passenger RL Caliper for $115+75 core charge. It's only a matter of time before they get the Driver RL calipers in.

ILLustriousUA6

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The only reason why I'm going for the OEM brembo is because It's easier to find the parts, like rotors/pads etc.

How much is it to buy the Stoptech/Rotora rotors/pads after the original ones have been worn?

I'm thinking long run here...

I hate cars

As cheap or cheaper than factory Brembo replacements and all you have to do is order online.

Parts are easy to find because most kits share rotors and cailpers (same pads) between different manufacturers.

ILLustriousUA6

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SO after the original rotora BBK pads and rotors are worn, I thought you need to buy the the pads and rotors from Rotora, whereas the Orginal OEM Brembo's you can use racingbrake rotors etc etc...?

poppenhe

Thanks for the great parts list!

I hate cars

I don't think you're stuck with Rotora. Any 13"x23mm (or whatever size depending on the kit you got) rotor will work but the Rotora rotors are some of the best so no reason to go with anything else. Calipers are great too, they have they typical taper bore pistons and all the features of any other top of the line caliper.

You have your choice of 3 different "Rotora" pads to choose from, from full race, track/street, and street. However, I have been trying to figure out exactly which pads Rotora uses because chances are they're some OEM application for something. If I could figure this out it would open up the door to using any pad you want.

ILLustriousUA6

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^ thnx for the info man!

i got my brembo's on couple weeks ago and it stops so much faster..

well, paired with the rotora slotted front/rear and hawk hps pads, lol..

I felt an amazing difference

n3rd

Is the knuckle the same thing as a spindle?
This part specifically... 51210-SEP-A01 The knuckle is this aka a spindle?

SurfingScotty

Nice thread. I have a Type-S and my rotors are warped and it about time to have new pads. I have heard about people having really awful squeaking thanks to the OEM pads. I asked my dealer (service advisor) if I had to run OEM/Brembo pads/rotor, etc. He kinda reluctantly said, "yes...". I figured he was full of $hit.

HAMTLS

what about the rears, is there a 2 piston caliper that can be uesd off an oem car?

rehm

question

I want to do the swap too. I already have the calipers, rotors, pads.

I found a local junk yard selling the complete spindle. He told me I would not be able to just both these on as the axles/drive shaft would not fit.

Is this true? Would I have to use my original bearings and hub?