I am currently putting together money for my supercharger build this fall/winter. I want to make sure I have everything that I need. Ive been trying to do as much research as possible bc I love my car and above all else want it to remain reliable. It seems most of the threads are a few years old so I figure best way is to post up and see if there's any updates. I had read a lot saying to keep reliability you need to do water/meth and an F/IC but I was also reading about Erics TL in superstreet saying he had 10s of thousands of miles on 2 motors with just the kit itself. So any info is very helpful thanks!!

This is what I planned on having to get but I'd like to spend as least as possible
ct supercharger
Atlp j pipe -
Atlp 3rdcat -
RV6 pre cat deletes -
-sum-g1231
-wire/terminals
-Braille b3121
OE intake gasket
OE throttle body gasket
OE EGR valve gasket
OE accessory belt
Denso IK22 plugs
PS fluid and coolant
6 rsx type s injectors
Aem boost ga 30-4406
Aem uego 30-4400
Aem w/m kit 30-3000
AEM fi/c 30-1910
AEM extension harness "send to paul nva-av6 to have wired" 30-2986
Dyno Tune

And if I do go through all that should I opt for the High Boost Pulley?

 

I would stay away from the hi boost pulley, spins the SC too fast and caused a lot of issues for those who used it. I didn't like the Braille battery. I got the 17 lbs version and it couldn't deal with the added resistance of being relocated to the trunk. Most of the rest of your list looks good. I would try to run 93 octane if it's available in your area.

 

the high boost pulley with the comptech ACM is a VERY bad idea. As well even with the AEM tuning system it's a bad idea because the air is VERY hot and will reduce power. However if you opt for a intercooler it will help negate the pressure loss from the intercooler and be a better system.

In all honesty the CT kit isn't the greatest thing anymore, the Turbo kit is probably the best out there for power and money. The CT kit now is really more for bragging rights, the HP gain is only from 3000-redline and only close to redline does it give a 60HP increase. The turbo kit on the other hand gives a better power range and more usuable power.

 

As sexy as Erics car is I really like the factory bumper and looks of the TL which I can't see functioning with an intercooler well. I figure supercharger over turbo for daily driven reliability but I don't want this to turn into one of those type of threads.

What battery did u run in place of Braille?

 

In all honesty, if you are going for a car that's going to be a DD first try the car with all the bolt ons before you end up going the S/C route. Doing some motor work along with intake, exhaust, weight reduction, etc. will get you close to the S/C HP#'s with 100% reliability. If you still aren't happy then go for the S/C.

Go with the pre-cat deletes, RV-6 quad, Port and polish, j-pipe, weight reduction, AEM intake, Big Bore throttle body, etc and you'll be near the 300 WHP mark.

 

I'm running a Costco battery, works much better. As far as the SC I made 100+ WHP with hi flow cats and the atlp quads. The SC is the cheaper route when compared to the turbo. The turbo has a more usable power range and out all power.
Both are DD friendly. I have DD both set ups and had no problems.

 

Really didn't want to do motor work mostly bc there's no one in the area I really trust to do it. If intake/exhaust could really make that large of a diff I would consider but I don't want to take steps backward by buying intake and not being satisfied wit HP gains.

Anyone running supercharger kit out of the box (no supporting mods) with reliable success?

 

You have to really decide how much power you want to make and what your budget is. We can recommend parts accordingly.

 

I want the car to be fun to drive (well more than it is) and it to keep up with most performance cars in it's class if not surpass them. I wanna spend as little as possible but understand u get what u pay for. I'm willing to spend what will make it right. I got a pretty aggressive price on the kit itself.

 

You might be better off with pre cat deletes and a cat back. The SC is going to make you a good bit faster than other cars in it's class. I ran straight stock with the SC and it made about 60 HP, with higher flowing cats and exhaust about 100-110 increase in HP.

 

100-110 out of just exhaust and high flow cats? Or that with the charger? Either way that's amazing. Do you prefer high flow cats (what brand) over the cat deletes?

 

^^ he means with supercharger and pre cats deletes (or high flow cats) and j-pipe

 

I'm curious, after all that research, what did the total cost on that list add up to? Assuming everything was new.

 

Gotcha thats what I figured I was just hoping it was the other way :P

I plan on doing the ATLP quads before summer ends

Total on that list was about $7500 give or take hens why I was hoping to get away with just the supercharger on the provided ACM

 

I really dont see a point putting in a SC if you're using this a for a DD. All you're doing half the time is waste more gas. And as for price vs. hp, that SC is really weak considering it only gives you 60hp. If you're concerned with saving money and getting performance, I'd say just get the full exhaust setup which yields almost the same results, with none of the drawbacks and extra exhaust notes for you to enjoy.

 

atlp quads..

I would definitely look into the rv6-p v3 j-pipe.
it's a lot of bang for your buck and you would save money over the atlp j-pipe/high flow 3rd cat combo since the rv6-p j-pipe eliminates the 3rd cat.
richie also has deals going on his website where if you buy a j-pipe and either high flow pre cats or pre-cat deletes you save some money

 

awesome thanks for the input guys! I'm definitely going to start there and just knock out the whole exhaust first. Maybe that will be enough the cars no dog out of the box. ESP having the 6MT version.

 

Hi Speed did u ever have problems running CT on supplied ACM?

 

how much does a SC with everything (plug and play ready) run you?

 

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Do it right. Get the Turbo charger.

 

No, I didn't have any real issues with the ACM. That said I wasn't running gauges, so I don't know the AFR. It surged when going from partial throttle to wide open, but I learned to work around it. I also was not very hard on the car interms of a lot of sustained boost or beating on it. I do miss the whine of the SC and instant boost. Boost would come on so fast it would spin 2nd gear hard before the traction control could cut throttle.

 

Depending on the year of your ride, there may be some F/IC's available with the harness for much less than new.

For $7500, you could do a turbo if you can DIY.

 

I was thinking of getting some boost in the future but had a Question about SC and Turbo. I love both but what do you guys think is better on the Automatic Type S? I like the fact that with SC you don't have to charge it up to get the boost which, Ideally, I think would be better for an Automatic. How does this work in a Turbo Setup, how would you charge up the turbo with an automatic without putting to much strain on the tranny? Dont mean to take over the thread but im interested in what you guys think about BOost and Automatics...

 

^please read this thread.
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/turbo-kit-acura-tl-04-08-a-718808/
then check out spades build.
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/acura-tl-type-s-turbo-kit-build-install-spade0968-jandr-819216/

 

Just you are on a Roll Today Huh?

 

Space cadet: Justnspace reporting for duty

 

LMFAO at your Avatar ha ha

 

 

The RV6 jpipe, and true duals already give you 40hp, thats only around $2200 whereas you're paying 5+ grand for a SC which gives you 20hp more than that...not worth it if you ask me.

 

Jesus. 60hp out of an exhaust?! Sign me up!

But seriously.... OP, if $7500 is really the amount that you came up with, I would seriously consider going the turbo route. This is coming from a guy that has had BOTH the S/C and the J&R turbo kit. The whole "turbo vs. S/C" discussion has been had countless times on the board so I won't go into detail, but basically what it boils down to is that the turbo: a.) provides better gains throughout the powerband, and b.) is easier on your engine at the same power levels.

There WILL be issues that you will fight on a daily basis with the S/C that you won't with the turbo. The biggest being the intake charge temps. Since there isn't an intercooler setup for the S/C that doesn't have serious drawbacks, you'll be fighting really high temps while just highway cruising (+40 of ambient is quite common).

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the turbo settle were still very developmental for the 3G TL.

 

No, we are running them. I have about 15k on the kit.

 

Currently reading the turbo thread. Dumb questions to ensue shortly I'm sure :-P

 

^skip to the end. its where all the important info is.

 

I tried but I'm still Confused as he'll everyone is talking about major engine internals and ECUs and what not. I had a civic project that I was trying to turbo charge and it never got finished bc it was one thing after another that's why i just want something fun, reliable and simple.

 

^although, these guys above say that its reliable, you really have to know what you're doing.
I can guarantee, that with a turbo build you'll always have to tinker around with something to get jusssst right.

if you want something simple, just do basic bolt ons. See how you like the car, and if you want more you can go the Turbo route.

I'm sure that there will be used J&R turbo kits down the road.

 

Set a goal and really consider how much you can put into the project.. start the project if you think you can realistically finish it. the info is out there.. you would need t upgrade exhaust with both set ups. sc have been around for a while so you can get one used for around 24-2600 maybe cheaper. either way you go GL....

 

This is untrue. The kit was installed, tuned and that's as far as it's gone. You can buy tons of things to bring the cost up and keep pushing the power envelope, but there is no need to. The kit as it comes is an additional 160 WHP, if you want to push double factory HP or shoot for 600 crank HP there will be more stuff. It really about what your content with. I remember when I picked my car up from the dealer I couldn't beleave how fast it was. Now I wouldn't be able to drive the car stock after getting accustom to the extra power.

 

I am humbled and brought back down to earth.