ussi

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i think he confused it with a bypass valve

3rdGenA-spec

you can run a blowoff valve on a supercharger.

ACCURATEin

As far as engine management is concerned, i'm not sure what the best solution would be.

The max boost will probably be 6psi with the HBP and intercooler together, which should be safe with the comptech ACM. If the max boost is higher than 6 i might be a little concerned.

ACCURATEin

As for a blowoff valve, i dont think this system will need one. Essarak had one on his setup just for show, and if i remember correctly he said it isn't necessary. There's a picture of it somewhere.

lookinco

Sure BOV does work with some type of supercharger like the rotrex one but not on the comptech one. Like I said, when you suddenly lift off the throttle, it cuts the air going into the supercharger and thus there won't be any pressurezied air coming out from the supercharger.

Surely you can install one, but it's useless and it won't make any sound at all.

lookinco

Sure BOV does work with some type of supercharger like the rotrex one but not on the comptech one. Like I said, when you suddenly lift off the throttle, it cuts the air going into the supercharger and thus there won't be any pressurezied air coming out from the supercharger.

Surely you can install one, but it's useless and it won't make any sound at all

3rdGenA-spec

i really dont know much about superchargers i deal with a lot of turbo cars. and i have seen some sc with blowoff valves.

topckret

Hey guys, I don't want to impede on the thread, but can you guys please just go on this thread and just add your names to the petition even if you guys already have exhausts, whether comptech or not, whether you want an exhaust or not, i need names (bodies) to sign up on the petition so we can get GReddy to manufacture us a catback...Thank you for your cooperation. Here's the website:
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=153880

njzprettyboy

so, whats going on with this? any progress? I have the IC as well as all the piping, and have been reading alot on this topic. Im trying to gauge whether its worth it or not, and how bad of a perf. drop there will be if any. I do not want the car to smoke and bog when I hit the gas. I spoke with Essarak a while back and he mentioned his car was only getting 7 mpg....I wonder if that was b/c of the IC....

njzprettyboy

UPDATE...well I spoke to essarak. he said he was running the HBP. after the IC was added he saw a loss of about 1.5-2 psi...the IC basically negated the HBP. He also mentioned that after he installed the IC is when he started seeing the problems wth the gas mileage etc. Not sure if I am going to do this...

njzprettyboy

PS..he never tuned the car after either, so im sure tuning it will make a difference. He also mentioned the lag wasnt too bad at all....there wasnt much really.

04accordcpe

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so did this project live or die? i want to do this also cause i need to get intercooled some way!

CleanCL

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as stated before, the intercooler design would cause pressure drop because of the extra piping. you are better off going with a meth injection.

ACCURATEin

This project hasn't started yet. I was hoping someone with an accord would test it out first. I just dont want to get the intercooler and have the custom piping made and then it not work...you know what i mean?!

...and it will cost so damn much!

ACCURATEin

Maybe the high boost pulley will make up for the loss in boost...so it net boost will still be around 5lbs, but the air going into the manifold will be cooler.

04accordcpe

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i got the HBP right before comptech closed their doors, so im set there. there is one accord already with a comptech SC with a FMIC, but the intercooler design is ugly. maybe its the only type that will function properly with our setup though... its small with both inlet/outlet on top. an IC with end to end tanks look better, but probably to much piping for pressure loss.... to top everything off they installed a blowoff valve also.

the only problem is, i cant get any specs, on any part, of the setup period.. dont even know if they have the HBP installed or not. so its been a guessing game trying to go by the pics. the only part that needs to be made is an adaptor that connects the inlet pipe from the IC to the manifold. the MAF sensor will have to be relocated somewhere on the pipe, since the SC elbow was deleted. here the pics,









as for cost, i looked into it and it shouldnt be that much to r&d something like this. i figure on getting some universal piping, U bends, 90's, 60's, 45's, straght aways, silicone adaptors and hoses to button everything up, then get an ebay IC for around 80-90, it will only cost about 200-25- total.... . shoot, if it turns out to work good, i can just thermo wrap everything up like they did and ill be good to go. im to the point where i want function over looks anyways, this heatsoaking is really starting to bug me. im getting tired of icing my car down between runs.

i was looking at the snow perfornance cooler, but seeing all the bad luck some of you had, with burning out the cats and what not, i didnt want to go that route. then again my car is tunable with the emanage, so maybe that can be the difference maker? decisions, decisions....

ussi

iTrader: (1)

^I think you might be on with tuning and snow boost cooler..i might go that route..

lookinco

I would stick with the snow performance kit, especailly for the TL. I have the snow performance kit and it does a VERY GOOD job cooling the charged air. It allows me to run higher boost with very little timing retard.

As for the FMIC, you would have trouble fitting an intercooler with the TL bumper design, unless you switch it to the versus bumper. Also there would be some pressure loss with all those pipings. For turbo cars that are running 15+ psi of boost, 1 or 2 psi pressure loss might sound okay. But with our TL, we are only running 8psi at most with the HBP. That much pressure loss would probably negate the benefit of the intercooled air.

ACCURATEin

If i'm reading correctly the pictures with the custom intercooler is not your car right? Which forum did you find those images from? at any rate, thanks for posting them! The design is almost what i have in mind. I suppose that accord is driveable...wonder if we can find the owner of the car and ask more questions.

shehmir9

hey ACCURATEin i had a quick question for you, i see that you have a greddy strut bar under your hood, what year, make and model is that from and did you have to do any custom work to install ?

I hate cars

You will lose a psi or two because the intercooler is doing it's job and cooling the air. It's not from restriction and you won't lose power, even with less boost. The same mass of air is going into the motor, only at a lower psi because it's denser. What you need along with the intercooler is a pulley to bring boost back up to it's previous setting which will result in more power.

ACCURATEin

The Greddy 03+ Accord strut bar will work with the TL, just need to order some accord top hats in order to have two mounting points.

desper

I really love that Versus Front Bumper on your TL, looks damn good...

I have been wanting to get a different front bumper for my Desert Mist, but i just dont know whether it would look good on my color.. but so few options..... HMMM... BEAUTIFUL RIDE AS ALWAYS....

ACCURATEin

Thank you Sir! Luckily the bumper worked out and doesn't look that bad. You should look into it, i'm sure it'll look good on a desert mist...you've got the ron jon rims so you're set and ready to go!

ACCURATEin

I would like to apologize on stalling with the initiation of this project. I'm waiting for a detrimental engine or tranny issue where the TL will go on the lift for quite some time to have all the custom fabwork done all at once. The operation will include as follows:

-New motor
-6MT swap
-ECU swap
-Hondata
-HKS Intercooler
-Piping
-Comptech HBP
-Battery relocation

and God help me let there be peace on Earth.

ACCURATEin

..and maybe a j-pipe and 3" piping single outlet exhaust

(I'm going to commit suicide)

DiZlAoSbOiSoFlY

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wow now this is gonna be excitin to see!!! can't wait to see the results.

JCL622

why are you swapping over to 6MT? you were my rolemodle for TL A/T modders T.T

n00blike

are you gonna insulate you intercooler pips?

ACCURATEin

6MT is mandatory with this level of modding. The gearing is so much closer and the engine gets through the power band quicker than the 5AT.

ACCURATEin

Indeed! I've got my hands on some type of gold heat dissipation foil that i learned from the NASA teams where they are using it on their intakes. Currently i've got the supercharger intake pipes wrapped with it. Not sure how effective the foil is but if the NASA teams are using the material then it's got to serve some level of effectiveness.

dan.....k

iTrader: (1)

^ Link to gold foil, please.

ACCURATEin

http://www.enjukuracing.com/

click on universal parts and go to heat reflective film.

n00blike

Woow that looks sweet!

could you use that on headers?

stillhere153

iTrader: (1)

I found one that is 97% reflective, doesn't look as cool as the gold though

stillhere153

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duh forgot to post link
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=170155609506

ACCURATEin

...probably not recommended for use on the actual exhaust components.

ACCURATEin

Scratch the enjuku link.

...my brother calls me up today about an hour ago and tells me he drove 5 miles down the road to a place called BSR Products and they sale all kinds of racing products including the GOLD FOIL!! Here's the link...

http://www.bsrproducts.com/product_i...oducts_id=1948

lookinco

I am thinking of a 6 mT swap as well. Actually I am looking for a sequential....good luck on your project!

I hate cars

I would like to wager a little bet. At the level of mods a couple of you are at, I will bet money the car slows down through the 1/4 with the addition of a manual. Yes, understand it's more fun with a manual and all that. For the amount of money spent, ever consider a higher stall convertor?