Clutch master clutch sucks
05-12-2009, 06:03 PM
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Clutch master clutch sucks
i had my clutch for less than 8k miles and its starting to slip...i broke it in for about 1300 miles and it sucks... i hate the flywheel because it makes the car sound like shit....should i just order a new disk or go with another brand.....
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05-12-2009, 10:12 PM
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Racer
Dang man, sorry to hear that! I remember messaging you about your thoughts on the clutch. I'm about ready for one soon...If I take off VSA and run hard, it slips throughout 3rd and 4th!
05-13-2009, 11:01 AM
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here's some more info
http://www.specclutch.com/cars/Acura/TL/2004/Single
fyi anyone who goes anything but stage 1 will surely require new motor mounts... also it is highly suggested to resurface or purchase a stock flywheel
by the way... I may have an integra now... but its not going to be a 4banger for long so I researched the clutch to go with
http://www.specclutch.com/cars/Acura/TL/2004/Single
fyi anyone who goes anything but stage 1 will surely require new motor mounts... also it is highly suggested to resurface or purchase a stock flywheel
by the way... I may have an integra now... but its not going to be a 4banger for long so I researched the clutch to go with
05-13-2009, 01:22 PM
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Racer
here's some more info
http://www.specclutch.com/cars/Acura/TL/2004/Single
fyi anyone who goes anything but stage 1 will surely require new motor mounts... also it is highly suggested to resurface or purchase a stock flywheel
by the way... I may have an integra now... but its not going to be a 4banger for long so I researched the clutch to go with
http://www.specclutch.com/cars/Acura/TL/2004/Single
fyi anyone who goes anything but stage 1 will surely require new motor mounts... also it is highly suggested to resurface or purchase a stock flywheel
by the way... I may have an integra now... but its not going to be a 4banger for long so I researched the clutch to go with
05-13-2009, 02:37 PM
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I just had the SPEC stage 2 installed on my car, still driving the loaner car from the dealer so cant comment on how good the new clutch is. All i can say is racinghart03 said it "grabs really good" 
05-13-2009, 02:38 PM
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05-13-2009, 04:02 PM
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05-13-2009, 07:21 PM
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wow man that sucks to hear. did you breakin properly? i have about 15k or so and hasnt slipped on me yet :knockonwood:
i actually bought a spec stage 3+ before my CM kit and i wasnt impressed with the looks of it one bit. the disk did look pretty good, but it was a sprung hub disc (not rigid) and wouldnt work well coupled with a dual mass FW. PP on the other hand was nothing more than a stock one painted blue.
one other guy on v 6 P had VERY bad luck with spec clutches. he first got the stage 2 and right after 500 miles bread in it slipped first launch
then he upgraded to a stage 3 i believe and after being on his car, the fingers broke off the spec PP and was spinning around with the assembly tearing up his expensive comptech LWFW. heres a post with pics of the carnage,
http:///forums/showpost.php?p=1345749&postcount=29
^^ not pretty to say the least.
trust me, SPEC IS GARBAGE!!!! at least for our applications.
and the spec clutches arent exactly cheap either. your looking about 850 for the stage 3+ kits. if your looking for a good clutch kit (minus FW) go for the CM stage 3. i think it cost around 700 or so.
EDIT: i forgot acurazine filters EVERYTHING from v 6 P how gay!!
ill copy and post the pics right here later on.,
i actually bought a spec stage 3+ before my CM kit and i wasnt impressed with the looks of it one bit. the disk did look pretty good, but it was a sprung hub disc (not rigid) and wouldnt work well coupled with a dual mass FW. PP on the other hand was nothing more than a stock one painted blue.
one other guy on v 6 P had VERY bad luck with spec clutches. he first got the stage 2 and right after 500 miles bread in it slipped first launch
then he upgraded to a stage 3 i believe and after being on his car, the fingers broke off the spec PP and was spinning around with the assembly tearing up his expensive comptech LWFW. heres a post with pics of the carnage,
http:///forums/showpost.php?p=1345749&postcount=29
^^ not pretty to say the least.
trust me, SPEC IS GARBAGE!!!! at least for our applications.
and the spec clutches arent exactly cheap either. your looking about 850 for the stage 3+ kits. if your looking for a good clutch kit (minus FW) go for the CM stage 3. i think it cost around 700 or so.
EDIT: i forgot acurazine filters EVERYTHING from v 6 P how gay!!
ill copy and post the pics right here later on.,
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05-13-2009, 09:27 PM
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Would you need to upgrade tranny mounts when u upgrade your clutch too?
But as I read somewhere, something about our TL mounts are probably strong enough to handle another 100 hp or so. Does that relate to the tranny mount?
But as I read somewhere, something about our TL mounts are probably strong enough to handle another 100 hp or so. Does that relate to the tranny mount?
05-14-2009, 01:18 AM
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Three Wheelin'
I used an XTD for a while on my old h22 accord lol that thing held up pretty good and it was a stage 3 haha. Anyway I am looking for a performance clutch. I think exedy makes one for the accord and I would assume that would fit on the TL setup but I could be wrong. They do make OE setups and I would recommend them...I will have to research it a bit.
05-14-2009, 02:35 PM
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what kind of sound did you get from the flywheel?
05-14-2009, 03:25 PM
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Three Wheelin'
Heres an Exedy OE replacement part number...HCK1007 I dunno if they make performance disks for our cars but that would be great. I would go with Exedy if anything. We had a few bolt on H22A's running Exedy Stage 1's and romping them down the track it held up well. I think Exedy reported it as 20-25% more clamping force than the OEM on the H22A...As for the TL I am not sure.
05-14-2009, 04:24 PM
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wow man that sucks to hear. did you breakin properly? i have about 15k or so and hasnt slipped on me yet :knockonwood:
i actually bought a spec stage 3+ before my CM kit and i wasnt impressed with the looks of it one bit. the disk did look pretty good, but it was a sprung hub disc (not rigid) and wouldnt work well coupled with a dual mass FW. PP on the other hand was nothing more than a stock one painted blue.
EDIT: i forgot acurazine filters EVERYTHING from v 6 P how gay!! ill copy and post the pics right here later on.,
i actually bought a spec stage 3+ before my CM kit and i wasnt impressed with the looks of it one bit. the disk did look pretty good, but it was a sprung hub disc (not rigid) and wouldnt work well coupled with a dual mass FW. PP on the other hand was nothing more than a stock one painted blue.
EDIT: i forgot acurazine filters EVERYTHING from v 6 P how gay!!
ill copy and post the pics right here later on.,
05-15-2009, 04:53 PM
#33
ok, i have heard soooooooo many different stories about this kit. It almost sounds like whoever installed the OP's kit messed up. everyone else has said it rocks. perhaps your kit was defective. Anyone else that has this kit needs to post their opinions pronto... especially cuz i'm about to buy one.
05-15-2009, 05:18 PM
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ok, i have heard soooooooo many different stories about this kit. It almost sounds like whoever installed the OP's kit messed up. everyone else has said it rocks. perhaps your kit was defective. Anyone else that has this kit needs to post their opinions pronto... especially cuz i'm about to buy one.
05-15-2009, 05:23 PM
#36
dude its not that he was hard on the clutch, he had disengagement issues from the start which eventually caused the disc to fail. The flywheel noise has to do with the starter on the flywheel bc the ringgear isn't the same spec as the stock ring gear. Just hold off a bit on purchasing this...i'll have more details on it soon.
05-15-2009, 10:44 PM
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Three Wheelin'
Thats the way to do it...People with failed products should send it back and let them see WHAT failed. That way they can at least make the product better instead of constantly manufacturing an on and off product depending on usage.
05-16-2009, 12:00 PM
#39
Three Wheelin'
Well then that is crap. A manufacturer should look into there product if it keeps on coming back failing. Oh well...Sucks to be them then. I will stick with exedy.