Sondinh

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I am planning to buy an intake this week. I'm planning to buy the AEM brand, but

don't know which one to choose from. I'm looking towards to buying the CAI, but

is it true that the CAI give you buy HP(horsepower) and save gas better than the

short ram? Is it true that the CAI give a better sound (louder) than the short ram?

Please if someone know the difference between the CAI and the short ram,

please tell me the pros and cons between the two. Thank you so much!

blkaspec

i dont know much about the short because i have never had one, but i know they suck up hot air while the true CAI sucks up cold. i love my AEM CAI, and if you get one, you will also love

why are you even asking, or why would you not want the CAI?

TypeSDragon

Probably there is a chance that you might hydrolock the car if you got through a deep puddle of water. Does anyone with a CAI have a bypass valve installed?

blkaspec

i heard someone say that they are somewhat pointless because they deteriorate or something, or the valve fails and ends up either cutting the flow of air, or ends up sucking the valve in to the engine or something. and i know its possible to hydrolock, but your car will probably have other issues if you end up driving through water that is that high. I guess it is more important for the really dropped cars than it is for the ones riding stock height, or close to.

stillhere153

iTrader: (1)

like blkaspec pointed out, the height of the water will mess more than just ur intake... you'd have to be up higher just where the aspec line is in order to hydrolock... if you accidentally do something like this then I am sorry but it is ur own fault... I never drive through sitting water... for 2 reasons, 1 you can easily hydroplane... and 2 because you can't judge the depth from driving at it...

ps. short ram intake sits behind the battery... not much chance for it to get any air unless you run a duct up through the space left by the removal of the stock instake... and even then the gains aren't guaranteed...

lastly cai won't save gas... you'll waste more because you will be heavy footed making it growl

TL2498

Everything you ever wanted to know about intakes.

You can thank the folks over at Team-Integra.net

TeknoKing

Yep, I was only thinking short ram to avoid removing the resonator and all of that crap, but sucking more hot air for the noise really is not worth it, so CAI it is.

01tl4tl

or just do the cheapo method- remove the lower intake resonator box and install a K&N air filter in the stock airbox
That gives more flow and is so far above any normal flood water line that the door handles would have to be submerged to get water in the intake,
The lower splash guard has water drain holes so that helps too

TeknoKing

^ yep cheapo method is good, but since I have to take off the bumper for the install anyways, I might as well put a CAI.... In 2G I was able to take the resonator out without removing the bumper....but people are saying in the 3G it's a big pain in the butt.

blkaspec

trust me, you dont have to take off the bumper, but by not doing so makes it a pain in the ass. i chose the pain in the ass method but i love my CAI

i really love the way it sounds, but i cant wait to get my j-pipe and race pipe installed to see how that change things up. i am sooo excited!!!

TeknoKing

^^^ you were able to relocate the ground wire and remove all the bolts? No ripping? No breaking? (I will need for my stock intake to go on later as it was)

blkaspec

I am unaware of the ground wire relocation that you speak of. i know i saw something mentioned like that in a 2G forum, but that does not hold true for the 3Gs. You do have to drill through 1 or 2 rivets in order to get everything out, and i am not sure if this could be skipped if you removed the bumper. But nothing broke, just the rivets, which you could replace with another type of fastener.

anx1300c

iTrader: (2)

You don't have to relocate the ground wire on the AEM.

anx1300c

iTrader: (2)

Neither unit is going to increase gas mileage and the short ram will probably make your car lose power.

MINIFVR

The filter of the AEM CAI is very well placed, as it is completely out of the engine bay, so you actually will get colder air. This is very beneficial. A short ram might get you slightly better throttle response but that's about it. You really don't want to be taking hot air in at all as it is less dense, which does not combust as well. I definitely felt that the throttle response of the AEM was better then stock anyways...

Sondinh

iTrader: (3)

If I run stock height do you still think the CAI will be safe for me to drive in the rain? Also what if I decide to drop it one inch from the stock height, do you still think I'll be safe to drive in the rain? Also which one is better Ingen or AEM?

TL2498

^^ They are pretty much the same, although some people think that the AEM filter location is better. The main difference will be the filter element. AEM uses a Dry-Flow washable filter whereas Injjen comes with a K&N style filter that needs to be re-oiled after cleaning.

Sondinh

iTrader: (3)

I am confuse to your explanation when you said AEM uses a Dry-Flow washable filter whereas Injjen comes with a K&N style filter that needs to be re-oiled after cleaning. (What do you mean)

ricgrrarrow

cai ftw

Jays_04TL

+1

TL2498

AEM Dryflow filters

K&N filter cleaning procedure