Best Performance Mods for an Acura TL Type S 2008

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Old 07-24-2013, 07:55 AM
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it's still a cat. so, it wont provide as much power as the straight pipe(PCD's) but still gains MUCH MUCH more than the factory cats. its a small difference going from a 200 cell cat(HFC) to a straight pipe...

BASE cat = 900 cell
type-s cat = I think its 500 cell count
high flow cat = 300-200 cell count

with that being said; it helps quell the sound and smell of the PCDs.
my friend has them paired with an XLR8 exhaust and it sound so exotic!! like a Ferrari almost
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Originally Posted by justnspace
it's still a cat. so, it wont provide as much power as the straight pipe(PCD's) but still gains MUCH MUCH more than the factory cats. its a small difference going from a 200 cell cat(HFC) to a straight pipe...

BASE cat = 900 cell
type-s cat = I think its 500 cell count
high flow cat = 300-200 cell count

with that being said; it helps quell the sound and smell of the PCDs.
my friend has them paired with an XLR8 exhaust and it sound so exotic!! like a Ferrari almost
Thanks, I talked to PV6 and found out the Type S cats are 600 cell, and the base TL is 900 like you said.
It might be worth me getting two high flow cats and deleting the third, I wouldn't change the stock exhaust , just add the j pipe and delete the third cat.
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^sounds like an awesome plan
now, get to it!!
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type-s is 600 cell...I think. :P
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I think my jpipe lost power
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I don't know whether to do it or not. Some of you said you lost power and down low with the J pipe. I am split on modding the Type S.
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^red text indicates sarcasm...

i liked my jpipe.
you're not new to modding, you've had a tuned civic si....so...why not apply the same principles to this platform???

experiment. and if you dont like it, remove it.
very simple. dont try to make it harder than what it is.

Reviews are biased at best!
if you're not sure, dont buy it. or buy it and test it out.
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j pipe + high flow cats

Originally Posted by justnspace
^red text indicates sarcasm...

i liked my jpipe.
you're not new to modding, you've had a tuned civic si....so...why not apply the same principles to this platform???

experiment. and if you dont like it, remove it.
very simple. dont try to make it harder than what it is.

Reviews are biased at best!


if you're not sure, dont buy it. or buy it and test it out.
Ha! I am not new to tuning, but....
1. I have enjoyed trying mods, and removing them on my Civic Si, but spend lots of $$$
2. The mods are more expensive for the TL Type S! I don't want to remove my mods, I want to research them before install!!
3. I don't want to ruin my luxury performance sedan by modding it and producing awful exhaust noise, or raspy sounding tone, or a vibrating ride
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1. the name of the game.
2. the name of the game.
3. the name of the game.

sounds like you dont want to mod it. keep it stock
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I had a all motor setup fine tuned by CLM Motorsports on dyno and made 340 to front wheels. Its alot of work and money but its worth every penny once again is ALL MOTOR N/A
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Its not just buying the mods and install u need to tune the ECM . You are correct pre-cat deletes and J pipe will make u lose torque. U need to tune the car...
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Originally Posted by SH-AWD121
Its not just buying the mods and install u need to tune the ECM . You are correct pre-cat deletes and J pipe will make u lose torque. U need to tune the car...

I know, I would certainley tune after installing the mods. The pre-cat deletes and J pipe make you lose torque, what about high flow cats and j pipe??
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^psh. my dyno shows that I Gained torque at 2k RPM
without a tune!!

my buddy has a 6mt TL just like mine. I was first to mod mine. with just the jpipe, I pulled in 3rd gear against him
you dont lose torque...the powerband just shifts upwards....



stock 6mt (emmanuel) vs PCD and Jpipe 6mt(Justin)
at 2.5k RPM I have about 136lbs more torque than he does at the SAME RPM!

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Originally Posted by SH-AWD121
I had a all motor setup fine tuned by CLM Motorsports on dyno and made 340 to front wheels. Its alot of work and money but its worth every penny once again is ALL MOTOR N/A
what did you tune with?
what did you raise your compression to?
what cams were you running?
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Apexi Neo no cam
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Originally Posted by justnspace
^psh. my dyno shows that I Gained torque at 2k RPM
without a tune!!

my buddy has a 6mt TL just like mine. I was first to mod mine. with just the jpipe, I pulled in 3rd gear against him
you dont lose torque...the powerband just shifts upwards....



stock 6mt (emmanuel) vs PCD and Jpipe 6mt(Justin)
at 2.5k RPM I have about 136lbs more torque than he does at the SAME RPM!
Thats not a good line at all. Here is my graph with just intake, throttle body spacer and intake manifold spacer on a pre-tune first time on the dyno Name:  DSC_0021.jpg
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Originally Posted by stealthcivic
I want to know if somebody is running the high flow cats with the j pipe, what gains they got? Did they dyno the car with the setup? Are the gains nill, and it is not worth the money? How is the sound, aggressive, mellow, not too loud /raspy?
Thanks man.
you will definitely feel a performance increase with the HFPCs and the j pipe, they are definitely worth the money. if i were you i would add an aftermarket exhaust and that will free up a decent amount of hp on the entire backend.

with just hfpcs and j pipe you should be fine noise-wise, it's when you start adding the aftermarket exhausts that it gets loud and you have to fine tune the sound to what you want (i had an aftermarket j pipe and resonated exhaust, but when i went to hfpcs it got too loud for me and i replaced the resonator with something bigger)...it's just a matter of finding the right sound you want.

oh and get flashpro. you won't get huge gains (less than 10 hp) but the improvement in smoothness and drive-ability is amazing
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Old 08-07-2013, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SH-AWD121
I had a all motor setup fine tuned by CLM Motorsports on dyno and made 340 to front wheels.


So you made 340 to the wheels on a bolt on/'tuned' (Apexi Neo lmao) TL Type S and believed it? Lol. That would mean you gained 80+whp from stock. Did you ever dyno stock on that same dyno? Sounds to me it's a hub dyno, measuring crank hp, which would make perfect sense, because that would put you around ~29x to the wheels. Huge difference, bud. You aren't magically making 40-50whp more than everyone else with bolt ons......
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Gotta give props to this thread for helping me out with deciding on mods for my Type-S! Referred to it many times.
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Originally Posted by stealthcivic
I know, I would certainley tune after installing the mods. The pre-cat deletes and J pipe make you lose torque, what about high flow cats and j pipe??
9 times out of 10 you gain torque down low. The reason it doesn't feel that way is because you gain more on the top end. Make sense?
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Originally Posted by NvrDwn
9 times out of 10 you gain torque down low. The reason it doesn't feel that way is because you gain more on the top end. Make sense?


We noticed a significant torque gain with our XLR8 V2 j-pipe on the 3G TL-S.
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Originally Posted by NvrDwn
9 times out of 10 you gain torque down low. The reason it doesn't feel that way is because you gain more on the top end. Make sense?
ive been going back and fourth with stealth civic forever.
he'll never understand .
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Originally Posted by Excelerate


We noticed a significant torque gain with our XLR8 V2 j-pipe on the 3G TL-S.
Cant wait to pick that up this Spring from you guys!
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Would straight piping my 07 Acura TL Type S give me more power or make me lose torque?
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That depends on the diameter of the pipe. Read about exhaust system design (particularly, scavenging) and you'll understand. This should help:

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/freq...kpressure.html

I get the maximum scavenging effect if the gas velocity is high, so the pipe needs to be small. By maximizing the scavenging effect, I help to pull pulses out of the combustion chamber, which means the engine doesn't have to work as hard to do that.

This has the most effect when there's a bunch of time between pulses...in other words, at low rpm. As the revs rise, the pulsed flow becomes more and more like constant flow, and the scavenging effect is diminished.

So, at low rpm I need a small pipe to maximize scavenging, and at high rpm I need a big pipe to minimize pressure drop. My exhaust pipe can only be one size, so it's a compromise. For a given engine, one pipe diameter will make the most overall power (i.e., have the largest area under the curve on a dyno chart).
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straight piping the TL does neither.
you wont gain and you wont lose.
its PURELY for sound, a horrible sound at that.
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Lol, yeah I forgot to mention that. It'll sound like shitte.
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What should i get to give me better performance for now throttle body spacer or a V2 AEM intake. Also is there anywhere i can fine good headers for my TL-S?
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Throttle Body Spacer and Cold Air Intake are kind of just hype: you won't really see/feel any performance gains. To actually help heat soak (the purpose of the spacer), you should start with the throttle body coolant bypass mod. The car comes with a cold air intake from the factory. You're better off saving that money towards a j-pipe or other exhaust components. The TL-S doesn't have headers: the exhaust runner are cast into the heads. Do some searching around here and you'll probably get some good ideas. Basically the exhaust system is pre-cats to j-pipe to catback.
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yeah, throttle body spacers dont do jack chit. except take your money.
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