I was on acura's website and reading an overview of the Type-S' performance.. it says... "The Type-s engine delivers more power, thanks to a combination of increased displacement, larger intake valves, as well as a high-flow exhaust system." Just wondering if we were to modify our base TLs based on the mentioned description of an overview of the TL-S performance, would it technically make our cars run similar to a Type-S? would it just cost too much to go through that stuff, or does installing a S/C make all those modifications pointless? or maybe just getting the car itself should do...


hmm.. very curious..

 

Well if you put all the improvments in your base TL, of course it would run like a TL-S. That's including an engine with a bigger displacment, different heads, and free flow exhaust. Those would cost you a pretty penny.

As for supercharger, a base TL with supercharger will be faster then a TL-S. However you could add the supercharger to a TL-S as well, and become even faster!

 

The type S has a different engine.....If you just want to be faster buy a supercharger...personally I like the looks of the type s.

 

i like the type s i just don't like the wheels. I am glad the aftermarket has a ton of wheels available for it

 

I have the TL-S and I'm still not happy with the power.

I came from a 400hp STI, though...

I miss the speed, BUT I don't miss the car. The TL-S is bad ass, and the comforts/features make it SO much more of a car.

I want to install a supercharger, but I'm really worried about traction...

 

it's pretty hard to come across some good money nowadays.. lol.. i've been thinking of putting a drop on mine and installing some nice kicks... i should just make my car look pimp instead of making it run so fast... =p hmm

 

I think the TL-S looks pimp enough stock... I need speed!!!

 

i upgraded from 220 HP so i am SO PLEASED...comming from 400 AWD has GOTS to be tough.

 

I hate going back and forth....

On the one hand, I love the car like it is, being reliable, and "quick" as it sits.

On the other hand, I would love to have something that was balls out fast.

My buddy just bought a BMW 335i with the Twin Turbo 6-cyl. I'm AWFULLY tempted to follow suit...

 

to make a 3.2 tl be like a 3.5 tl, you just need to change the catlytic converters to the E-shift Pro ones, add thermoblock spacers, and add an AEM cold air intake, change out to a comptech exaust, and lose the spare tire. If you want better than the TL-s, add the supercharger of future turbo to the 3.2 along with the above.

 

A few mods and you should be able to hang with a 335i.

 

Yeah right! never in your wildest dreams

 

how much more HP add to base TL with supercharger?

 

Hardly - He said a TWIN TURBO 335, not the "regular one"...

 

with a supercharger you should be able to hang with a 335 it has 300 horsepower compared to your 286. so start modding it up a fully loaded 335 with every available option is 50,000 and a fully loaded type s is 40,000 you put some of that money you saved into your type s and it will be a good race.

 

Exactly.

 

sorry...........even with a S/C you wont be able to hang with the 335
BMW has very conservatively rated the 335 so as to not step on the toes of the M3, but the secret is out.........335>M3>TL-S

 

every 335i is twin turboed

 

Ok, stock for stock the BMW is faster. But there are plenty of S/C 3.2TL that would run with it. The 335i by numbers is not faster then the M3. Here are numbers and reference for this. Jason

"Car magazines are beginning to publish statistics from their in-depth tests of the new twin-turbo BMW 335i coupe. According to Automobile magazine, the four-seater can hit 60 mph in just 5.1 seconds — compared to the current M3's 4.8. Meanwhile, the quarter-mile sprint takes 13.6 seconds, according to the magazine — only slightly slower than the M3's 13.4 second run. 0-100 mph for the 335i takes 12.7 seconds, compared to 11.5 for the M3. Over in Germany, Auto Zeitung is reporting a 0-62 mph time of 5.3 seconds, 0-100 mph time of 11.9 seconds, and a 0-124 mph time of 18.7 seconds for the automatic version of the 335i. Overall, it seems the new six-speed auto performs almost identically to its manual counterpart. However, the 0-100 mph time appears to be significantly faster for the automatic version."Reference

I really like the new 335i, but would not trade my TL for it at this point. The big thing for me with the 335i is that I really like the coupe, and I want a 4 door. The sedan 335i does not look near as good as the coupe. Jason

 

Yeah, the new 335i coupe is the only new BMW design that I actually like. The other models just don't look right to me.

A supercharged TL-S should be able to hang with the 335i.

 

a four door 335 does 0-60 in 5 seconds flat a 07 type-s does 0-60 in 5.6 seconds flat you add another 60 horsepower to the tl I think 5 seconds flat should be attainable. But we will need someone to prove it. Any supercharged tl-s out there know what they are running 0-60?

 

I'm pretty sure a boosted 6MT TL Type-S would beat a 335

 

Coming from a 320hp WRX myself I also miss the power but overall the TL has a better look and better features which outweigh the power issue.

As far as the 335i keeping up with a supercharged TL... It might work but remember a stock turbo car is way detuned. With about 2k in mods to the Subaru I gained 100hp. With OpenECU and a boost controller, you can make 40whp extra for under $100. I would assume that the BMW"s are also detuned from the factory and with a chip could see some crazy gains. Not to mention they have good displacement so they can handle a bigger turbo without as much lag.


EDIT: Just did a quick search on bimmerfest.com and got this quote:

"There have been, iirc, four dynos - all of them range from 285-299rwhp, which indicates between 320-340bhp"

Is the TL with S/C HP rating at the wheels or at the crank?

 

Here is a company making a chip.

http://www.dynocomp.com/bmw.php?view=bmw

335I EVOtech ECU Upgrade
EVOtech is the first to release the 335i Twin Turbo ECU upgrade.
HP jumps to an amazing 375hp!

$1295

Stay tuned for our 400hp turbo upgrade!!

 

hey we know a 335 is fast but lets be real it is almost 10,000 more and for the money i would buy a tl and add some upgrades. went to bmwusa.com 335i sedan loaded 50,000 and the coupe 52,000 ouch. I like bmw's but how much will the m3 be

 

In the straights. RWD>FWD for handling and launching.

 

Last year when Gas went past $3 a gallon I began to have flashbacks to the 1970s and the underpowered cars of the early 80s which were built to get better gas mileage. I began to wonder if cars like the TL would become an endangered species and I might one day be remembering "I came from a 270 hp car".

That hasn't happened yet -- the new 335, Lexus IS, Infiniti G35 etc all have 300 HP or more. The 2009 4G TL probably will too. And gas is back to $2 a gallon. But if it went up again and people started demanding 40 mpg cars... who knows? I guess I'd look to the Accord Hybrid 1st -- the only hybrid with any kind of HP or performance vs the Prius, Camry etc.

Yeah there's a limit to what FWD can do. One reason I think the 4G TL will be SH-AWD will be to get a better handle on all that power. (But if they don't add enough power properly, the AWD might actually feel slower than the FWD 3G TLs.)

One of the reasons I liked the TL better than the Maxima was that the TL seemed to have better Traction Control. I can still chirp the wheels but less torque steer on the TL than the Nissan. Then again, that extra control probably would cost me a little time if I took it to the dragstrip.

 

I notice very tangible limits to gripping the road even in my stock TL-S. It gives me pause when considering any performance modifications. Perhaps better tires can remedy some of this, though.

 

Hello friend...........

Adding all the necessary intake valves as well as higher flow exhaust system and swapping the engine from a 3.2 to a 3.5 will indeed enhance your overall performance of the base TL. As a matter of fact, it will become a TL type S. But why would you do that? It's both too much work and too costly..... you can simply add a supercharger from Comptech and you'll have way more HP and TQ against the TL-Type S.
Type S is yet to have a S/C from Comptech, but I'm sure they'll have them soon enough. It'll be fast and TQier...... but you won't be happy with the power if you are a speed freak.
I personally think my car is fast enough, I got it because I like the sound of the Comptech S/C whine.... not necessary the pure speed I look for... if I want that... I can just get a vette.