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^ its in my accord. J30a5 with PnP j35a8 head. Now I am waiting for camshaft gears to come out. (see image below) TB Motorworkx has been using them and rev their car up to 11k
Waaaait wait wait..... So i can buy these and just pair em up with type S cams right?... Now that the excitement is done.... Why is this so beneficial? .. Srry dont know about cam gears and how they affect our cars
they change the center line of the camshaft. Makes the valve open soon or later compared to top dead center of the piston. Shift the power band and blah blah blah. google camshaft phasing and overlap
Waaaait wait wait..... So i can buy these and just pair em up with type S cams right?... Now that the excitement is done.... Why is this so beneficial? .. Srry dont know about cam gears and how they affect our cars
Yea... Id like to know the technical details.. After i hear such details ill determine if its info i care about or not... Cams i understand the technical info.. Ppl yapping about it being hollow n light doesnt justify not even $.01 lol.. Least not for me lmao
they change the center line of the camshaft. Makes the valve open soon or later compared to top dead center of the piston. Shift the power band and blah blah blah. google camshaft phasing and overlap
This would be a very good mod but a real pain to tune them on the dyno. Would take 20-30min per degrees/settings on both cams for each test. Maybe the valve covers could be cut for easier access like the B series. Not sure if it would be enough to set them without removing the manifold.
Phuq all that shinny shit lmao... But no lies the online catalog sucks ass hahahaa.. I dont see where they offered anything J-series
LOL I'm pretty sure he linked that not for items specific to the J series, but so you could find the technical details as to the cam gears benefit. Once you've read it, just imagine how much more torque you would make if you could use FOUR of them!
LOL I'm pretty sure he linked that not for items specific to the J series, but so you could find the technical details as to the cam gears benefit. Once you've read it, just imagine how much more torque you would make if you could use FOUR of them!
just image it as the toyota VVTI but you can only choose to gain more low-end by giving up top end or vice versa since they are not adaptive.
These are only for first generation jseries engine blocks guys. They will NOT work on the 3rd Gen+ TL or 7th Gen+ accord, etc. I have spoken to AD Engineering (Andy) several times over the past couple years about developing a set in tandem, yet they have just recently (in the past 5 days) began taking a serious look at creating gears for newer block designs. I am confident it will be released, but there is no ETA at this point.
Put simply: unless you own a factory drive by cable jseries equipped Honda/acura , don't bother ordering these just yet.
these are only for first generation jseries engine blocks guys. They will not work on the 3rd gen+ tl or 7th gen+ accord, etc. I have spoken to ad engineering (andy) several times over the past couple years about developing a set in tandem, yet they have just recently (in the past 5 days) began taking a serious look at creating gears for newer block designs. I am confident it will be released, but there is no eta at this point.
Put simply: Unless you own a factory drive by cable jseries equipped honda/acura , don't bother ordering these just yet.
Seems bishi cams may be less expensive... Just called web cams for a custom reground its $950
Are you sure the person you were talking to didn't think we were DOHC, hence having four cams? I mean if Bisimoto was using Web and then turning around and selling them in the $700 range, I'd guess Bisi was only paying Web around $400-500, possibly even less if they had a high volume relationship.
I've also seen online shops selling DOHC 4 cyl cams reground by Web (cams included) in the $800 (per pair) range. And regrinding two 4 cyl cams is more labor intensive than regrinding two V6 cams.
NSX? V6 DOHC right? Not sure bout vtec on both intake/exhaust.
not just Vtec on both side (don't see why not since k20/k24 has), but also VTC to modify valve overlap timing.
Originally Posted by yungone501
If you're cam designer knows what the hell he is doing, cam gears aren't nearly as important as choosing the correct profile.
Now the DOHC Honda V6...yes, please.
But D16 people are running cam gears on top of camshaft.
I think if you mill your heads or add a cosmetic gasket cam gears will help bring the camshaft into the correct geometry again
** On a side note, Robert do you have extra valve spring laying around? Could you measure the valve spring press on a regular j32a3,j35a8, j35z#,and j37a#? I am just curious since I was told j35a8 exhaust springs were good up to 7500. J32a3 were good for 7300. Just I just want to verify that they do indeed have higher seat pressure.
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But D16 people are running cam gears on top of camshaft.
I think if you mill your heads or add a cosmetic gasket cam gears will help bring the camshaft into the correct geometry again
** On a side note, Robert do you have extra valve spring laying around? Could you measure the valve spring press on a regular j32a3,j35a8, j35z#,and j37a#? I am just curious since I was told j35a8 exhaust springs were good up to 7500. J32a3 were good for 7300. Just I just want to verify that they do indeed have higher seat pressure.
Cam gears have purpose. I was just being a smart ass. But in a geometrically correct engine (especially SOHC) that has had the cam specifically designed for its application and exact combination of parts, they are practically useless due to single reason of not being able to manipulate the centerline without affecting ramp rates (both sides) as well. This literally will give the same camshaft a completely different profile even when adjusting a single degree of timing. Again, especially with a SOHC that utilizes the same camshaft for intake and exhaust.
I have the pressures already but will have to locate them. Are you meaning their individual pressures at their own, application specific installed heights?
Just looking for the individual pressure. I was told j32a3 and j30a4/5 were 55psi for the exhaust. Not sure how accurate that is, and that j35a8 were 15% stiffer on the exhaust so ~63psi?
No clue what the intake were for any variation of the j30-37.
Trying to find hard evidence what they really are.
Are you sure the person you were talking to didn't think we were DOHC, hence having four cams? I mean if Bisimoto was using Web and then turning around and selling them in the $700 range, I'd guess Bisi was only paying Web around $400-500, possibly even less if they had a high volume relationship.
I've also seen online shops selling DOHC 4 cyl cams reground by Web (cams included) in the $800 (per pair) range. And regrinding two 4 cyl cams is more labor intensive than regrinding two V6 cams.
just buy MDX camshaft. they are cheaper compared to RL and TL-S
Wait... So are they just drop ins?..... The more i think im figuring out the more i confuse myself lmao..... Soooooo mdx cams just drop right in the J32a3 heads?.. No spacers no nuttn?
09 MDX camshaft is the same profile as TL-s, cost less, and if its any consolation they are lighter.
I have them in my J35a8 on my j30a5 block. So in short yes they will be plug and play. I would also suggest upgrading the exhaust valve if you plan to run them. Probably not needed, but always nice to have over rev protection.
@ yungone501
My I please have the spec of those valve springs pressure? Maybe create another thread? Thanks!
I do have to get exhaust valves.. I was going to order it tonight.... Which ones did you go with?.. Do they all fit the j32?... I just ordered intake valves.. But oem... Whats an upgraded valve?
Just to be clear. Yes they will fit j30a4/5, j32a3, and j35a8. So yes they will fit your car
I have TL-S intake and exhuast valve springs. You can probably get away with the stock intake spring. Most time people that over rev destroy their exhaust valves.
11-04-2014, 09:48 AM
.. Srry dont know about cam gears and how they affect our cars
