AEM CAI low end torque?

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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
I refuse to believe that sensor relocation can account for a .3 second difference in 0-60 acceleration. Hell, adding an intake is only good for maybe .1 to .15 seconds off your entire quarter mile time in and of itself, so there's no way sensor placement can account for a .3 second improvement to 60. G-timers are not really all that accurate.
Why are you so skeptical? Moving the IAT sensor can effect the timing the computer adds, or removes, thereby affecting overall performance. It is a very common practice in older camaros to put a resistor in the sensor so the ecu thinks the outside temp is always 50ish degrees, and advances timing.

G timers are really all that accurate if you know how to use one. My belief is that if you think they are not accurate, you do not know how to use one correctly, or have only seen people using them incorrectly.
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by screaminz28
Why are you so skeptical? Moving the IAT sensor can effect the timing the computer adds, or removes, thereby affecting overall performance. It is a very common practice in older camaros to put a resistor in the sensor so the ecu thinks the outside temp is always 50ish degrees, and advances timing.

G timers are really all that accurate if you know how to use one. My belief is that if you think they are not accurate, you do not know how to use one correctly, or have only seen people using them incorrectly.
Forget about the G-timers. It takes ~25 WHP to lower a 3500lb car's 0-60 time by 3/10 second. If you really believe these types of gains can be achieved by moving the AIS a few inches away from the throttle body, then you should also check out the computer chips on e-bay that'll give you another 25 horse.
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
Forget about the G-timers. It takes ~25 WHP to lower a 3500lb car's 0-60 time by 3/10 second. If you really believe these types of gains can be achieved by moving the AIS a few inches away from the throttle body, then you should also check out the computer chips on e-bay that'll give you another 25 horse.
It's possible but not likely. Our TLs run at the edge (or past) the point of detonation anyway and can't tolerate much more timing. I have a feeling moving the sensor "could" make a nice gain if there was enough octane which there isn't.
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 10:55 PM
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My question is and does anyone know what occurs more???

Does the timing get advanced more or does more gas get used when you relocate the sensor?????

If its timing then I am going to move it back right now.
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 11:17 PM
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My gas mileage has improved marginally since installing the AEM, P2R and UR pulley, so I have no qualms with running it in the intake pipe, which is where mine is for the record. And I agree with the theory as far as the timing being advanced, but I don't see it netting more than a pony or two at WOT.
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
My gas mileage has improved marginally since installing the AEM, P2R and UR pulley, so I have no qualms with running it in the intake pipe, which is where mine is for the record. And I agree with the theory as far as the timing being advanced, but I don't see it netting more than a pony or two at WOT.
Yeah the relocation only effects WOT I believe, I was just hoping someone knew what the ECU does with the IAT readings, more timing or more gas, and only cause of the pinging issue.

Anyways I am going to put the sensor back in the IM and see. If ECU is using the colder air reading to advance timing a lot, then putting the sensor back in the IM should lower the timing and should I get a double bonus from the air being cooler but the reading being hotter.

I report part tomorow after I see how it effects the driving.

Oh and my gas milage is rediculous now, I did a test today and for a mile and a half I was getting 37 mpg in six gear going 55.
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by evanj5
Yeah the relocation only effects WOT I believe, I was just hoping someone knew what the ECU does with the IAT readings, more timing or more gas, and only cause of the pinging issue.

Anyways I am going to put the sensor back in the IM and see. If ECU is using the colder air reading to advance timing a lot, then putting the sensor back in the IM should lower the timing and should I get a double bonus from the air being cooler but the reading being hotter.

I report part tomorow after I see how it effects the driving.

Oh and my gas milage is rediculous now, I did a test today and for a mile and a half I was getting 37 mpg in six gear going 55.
Mine actually read 45 mpg for a few seconds.

I haven't tried a 20 mile highway jaunt just doing an even 60 in 6th, since the mods. I'm thinking maybe 32 if I'm lucky.
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Old Jul 31, 2012 | 08:06 PM
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Installed my AEM CAI V2 today and felt a very noticeable loss of torque under 4k rpms.
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Old Jul 31, 2012 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JJH
Installed my AEM CAI V2 today and felt a very noticeable loss of torque under 4k rpms.
I have been always saying that... thats why i went from my CAI to stock air intake... the only thing i miss a little bit and only a little bit is the sound.
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Old Jul 31, 2012 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BukvaMan
I have been always saying that... thats why i went from my CAI to stock air intake... the only thing i miss a little bit and only a little bit is the sound.
Yeah, I'm beginning to think the same thing. I was running a non-resonated stock drop in K&N up till today and really thought that was nice.
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