4 inch CAI
11-02-2012, 05:46 PM
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Good luck in this venture. I was thinking about doing this a couple months ago but decided not to. Going to make a 3.5" and 4" to do some dyno comparisons once I get a ported manifold/or 3.7 manifold, ZDX throttle body. That way I know which will perform better.
I also was thinking of making it two piece so it could be ran as a SRI or CAI. Have you thought of this?
I also was thinking of making it two piece so it could be ran as a SRI or CAI. Have you thought of this?
11-02-2012, 05:51 PM
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Good luck in this venture. I was thinking about doing this a couple months ago but decided not to. Going to make a 3.5" and 4" to do some dyno comparisons once I get a ported manifold/or 3.7 manifold, ZDX throttle body. That way I know which will perform better.
I also was thinking of making it two piece so it could be ran as a SRI or CAI. Have you thought of this?
I also was thinking of making it two piece so it could be ran as a SRI or CAI. Have you thought of this?
11-02-2012, 06:18 PM
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Good luck in this venture. I was thinking about doing this a couple months ago but decided not to. Going to make a 3.5" and 4" to do some dyno comparisons once I get a ported manifold/or 3.7 manifold, ZDX throttle body. That way I know which will perform better.
I also was thinking of making it two piece so it could be ran as a SRI or CAI. Have you thought of this?
I also was thinking of making it two piece so it could be ran as a SRI or CAI. Have you thought of this?
The reality with SRI's is they are only useful on cars where you can get the filter to the front of the car where the air temps will be better as well as incoming velocity. The position of where the air is coming in to the tubing within the engine bay is extremely important.
If you think about a stock TL even - the intake inlet is in front of the battery, - right by the front of the hood. This is ideal for getting air at a good temperature without requiring a "cold air intake" that sucks air from the bottom of the engine bay. An SRI is going to sit behind the battery which is far from ideal.
How are you gonna have an SRI in a TL which doesn't get anything but incredibly hot air, not to mention less incoming velocity due to all the turbulence of air inside an engine bay?
11-02-2012, 06:21 PM
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i think the question is why would you want a SRI for a TL in the first place?
The reality with SRI's is they are only useful on cars where you can get the filter to the front of the car where the air temps will be better as well as incoming velocity. The position of where the air is coming in to the tubing within the engine bay is extremely important.
If you think about a stock TL even - the intake inlet is in front of the battery, - right by the front of the hood. This is ideal for getting air at a good temperature without requiring a "cold air intake" that sucks air from the bottom of the engine bay. An SRI is going to sit behind the battery which is far from ideal.
How are you gonna have an SRI in a TL which doesn't get anything but incredibly hot air, not to mention less incoming velocity due to all the turbulence of air inside an engine bay?
The reality with SRI's is they are only useful on cars where you can get the filter to the front of the car where the air temps will be better as well as incoming velocity. The position of where the air is coming in to the tubing within the engine bay is extremely important.
If you think about a stock TL even - the intake inlet is in front of the battery, - right by the front of the hood. This is ideal for getting air at a good temperature without requiring a "cold air intake" that sucks air from the bottom of the engine bay. An SRI is going to sit behind the battery which is far from ideal.
How are you gonna have an SRI in a TL which doesn't get anything but incredibly hot air, not to mention less incoming velocity due to all the turbulence of air inside an engine bay?
For anyone that may be interested in just a 4in sri I can do that as well for cheap.
11-02-2012, 06:39 PM
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11-02-2012, 07:03 PM
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11-02-2012, 09:33 PM
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Adam,
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Give it a try-it makes life here on AZ much easier.
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11-02-2012, 10:18 PM
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11-03-2012, 01:53 AM
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Good luck in this venture. I was thinking about doing this a couple months ago but decided not to. Going to make a 3.5" and 4" to do some dyno comparisons once I get a ported manifold/or 3.7 manifold, ZDX throttle body. That way I know which will perform better.
I also was thinking of making it two piece so it could be ran as a SRI or CAI. Have you thought of this?
I also was thinking of making it two piece so it could be ran as a SRI or CAI. Have you thought of this?
11-03-2012, 03:37 AM
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I really think 3.5" is ideal, and even then, only if you've swapped to a larger TB. When you go massively larger than the TB you may cause turbulence. I just don't see a TB that measures ~67mm on the CAI side and 64mm on the intake manifold side benefiting from a 102mm CAI.
11-03-2012, 06:13 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAxZv-nbdsM
so would this work on a 2g tl???
or would u consider making an intake for the 2g side?
if u do get dyno results, i bet quite a bit of members on that side would be interested
so would this work on a 2g tl???
or would u consider making an intake for the 2g side?
if u do get dyno results, i bet quite a bit of members on that side would be interested
Well won't ~74mm from the V2 be enough for ~67mm out TB ? I think the only answer to that question will be a test from v2 to 3.5'' to 4.0''... until then we will never know for sure... I also think the engine size and the TB size will give different gains/results from the different piping size...
If anyone has a aem v2 and is willing to buy a 4in cai from me and will dyno before and after, message me!
11-03-2012, 10:09 AM
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11-03-2012, 01:15 PM
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damn that sounds awesome HairyMonkey !!!
11-03-2012, 05:01 PM
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i was giving you major props haha....thought that was your car....
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even tho my default.... is a 2 g tl
11-03-2012, 06:53 PM
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11-03-2012, 07:28 PM
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11-03-2012, 07:32 PM
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Again I'd like to state if anyone is interested in potentially buying these let me know so I can add your name to the list.
11-03-2012, 08:03 PM
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Hhmmm id potentially be interested in a 3.5" . Would the mounting point be in the same location as all the other CAI locations . I'd be interested in just the pipe with the breather fitting And No filter as I would re use my DC Sports filter.
11-03-2012, 08:10 PM
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I haven't checked pricing for it but I'd guess the price would be around 90 + shipping I guess.
11-03-2012, 08:20 PM
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I didn't know about this problem until a few days ago. I wish I had a tl to test fit. I will know if it's a problem in up to 3 weeks. If anyone could post a picture of how the filter rubs against the wires that would definitely help.
11-03-2012, 09:09 PM
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Also with the mounting bracket in the fender well , when using it it sometime pushes out on the bumper when the filter is installed . I think that is due to the bend radious not being correct or tight enough. Ive seen a few pictures where the front side of the filter rubs on the back side of the fog lights . Maybe if the filter was angled down a bit so it clears the fog lights this wouldnt happen . Just a thought tho .
11-03-2012, 09:15 PM
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Also with the mounting bracket in the fender well , when using it it sometime pushes out on the bumper when the filter is installed . I think that is due to the bend radious not being correct or tight enough. Ive seen a few pictures where the front side of the filter rubs on the back side of the fog lights . Maybe if the filter was angled down a bit so it clears the fog lights this wouldnt happen . Just a thought tho .
11-03-2012, 09:15 PM
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Also with the mounting bracket in the fender well , when using it it sometime pushes out on the bumper when the filter is installed . I think that is due to the bend radious not being correct or tight enough. Ive seen a few pictures where the front side of the filter rubs on the back side of the fog lights . Maybe if the filter was angled down a bit so it clears the fog lights this wouldnt happen . Just a thought tho .
11-03-2012, 09:19 PM
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Both or only one of the two? If there is a problem with it hitting the wires I believe I can fix that but it would increase price because it would require more material.
11-03-2012, 09:22 PM
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11-03-2012, 11:25 PM
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Hmmm...if P2R is running a 4" intake, maybe that is a better option than a 3.5. They're definitely one of the more knowledgeable authorities on the J series. I'm sure they tried all the possible options on their Accord. Notice the way it's tapered though. That may be crucial to inhibiting any turbulence.
IIRC, that car has stock cams but some mild head work and is tuned on the AEM FIC.
11-03-2012, 11:48 PM
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^ True, but at the same time, he didn't have the larger 3.7 TB. I feel that the silicone reducers do a decent job at 'scavenging down' to the TB size. Probably not as good as an actual reducer would do though.
That Accord was tuned on the AEM EMS. I've heard it had a milled head for higher compression and headwork, but I've also heard it was on stock heads. I'd believe it had stock heads at this point seeing some of the recent dyno numbers. Especially since he was tuned on EMS.
With that said, good luck Adam. Seems like you have a good thing going here, especially with all the talk of the larger intake manifolds & throttle bodies
That Accord was tuned on the AEM EMS. I've heard it had a milled head for higher compression and headwork, but I've also heard it was on stock heads. I'd believe it had stock heads at this point seeing some of the recent dyno numbers. Especially since he was tuned on EMS.
With that said, good luck Adam. Seems like you have a good thing going here, especially with all the talk of the larger intake manifolds & throttle bodies
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11-04-2012, 12:43 AM
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if u read the video info:
Stock J32A2 Engine
P2R 4 Inch Intake
P2R Throttle Body Spacer and Thermal TB Gaskets
P2R Bored Throttle Body
P2R Ported Intake Manifold
P2R Thermal Intake Manifold Gasket
P2R Ported Runners
P2R Custom Header
P2R Custom 3 inch Exhaust
Stock J32A2 Engine
P2R 4 Inch Intake
P2R Throttle Body Spacer and Thermal TB Gaskets
P2R Bored Throttle Body
P2R Ported Intake Manifold
P2R Thermal Intake Manifold Gasket
P2R Ported Runners
P2R Custom Header
P2R Custom 3 inch Exhaust
11-04-2012, 01:48 AM
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^ Right, but there was some hearsay as to what was done to that car. I'd certainly believe it was on stock heads and a good tune.
11-05-2012, 07:35 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAxZv-nbdsM
Hmmm...if P2R is running a 4" intake, maybe that is a better option than a 3.5. They're definitely one of the more knowledgeable authorities on the J series. I'm sure they tried all the possible options on their Accord. Notice the way it's tapered though. That may be crucial to inhibiting any turbulence.
IIRC, that car has stock cams but some mild head work and is tuned on the AEM FIC.
Hmmm...if P2R is running a 4" intake, maybe that is a better option than a 3.5. They're definitely one of the more knowledgeable authorities on the J series. I'm sure they tried all the possible options on their Accord. Notice the way it's tapered though. That may be crucial to inhibiting any turbulence.
IIRC, that car has stock cams but some mild head work and is tuned on the AEM FIC.
11-05-2012, 09:41 AM
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I'd be interested to see a different dyno chart that focuses especially on low end torque. I would think there would be a dip comparred to smaller intakes or even a modified stock airbox in that area.
11-05-2012, 10:42 AM
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I hope to have a dyno within this month,
but i really don't know when to expect it.
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