KN_TL

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Had me all excited too........Damn

I see AEM has a MS3 type controller coming out....

justnspace

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you really thought this thread would produce something without proof!?!??!

what made ROdney's group buy exciting was that there proof.
videos and dynos to prove.

this thread, all we have is a random person claiming hearsay.

n3o

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I have a check for more than the FlashPro will cost, can you send me the difference in a personal check to my correspondent in the States?

1. Sonnick
2. Justin
3.Richard
4.Aaron
5.Dick
6.tyler
7.austin
8. Will
9. Daniel
10.Dominic
11. the fenda rolla
12. Justin
13. BostonSilverTypeS
14.Paul
15.Emmanuel
16.tony
17.will
18.Jessica
19.matt
20.Kyle
21.Emilio
22.Ryan
23. David - dstah
24.ruben
25.James
26.Alex2192
27. Anil
28.Tom
29.Arthur
30.Jerry
31.Kirby
32.Jared
33. Ali
34. Brian
35. Steve
36. Simon
37. phil
38. Earl
39. Josh
40. David
41. Don
42. John
43. Nigerian Prince

Wolks War

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Thx Sonnick, didn't had those info.. I'll stick with my MS3 than !!!!!!

bouncer07

This thread is like a FEELER thread that will get no where. A mod should kill it or spark the fire. Hondata no longer say their plans ahead anymore and patience is key people. I know it's a very VERY low chance Hondata will ever make a tunable solution, but their best interests lies on the new TSX that has a V6 motor. If that route is what they have, and only option to get more customers because the production is going towards J35's V6, then we will start seeing most cars 2012+ this kind of motor. Hondata's chance at this device - 40%.

Sonnick

The 04 TL ECU is reflashable.....

thisaznboi88

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F it! I am just going to stick with the piggy back the guy is designing on v 6 p

also why did the list get chopped? It is missing 10 people.

KN_TL

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Do you have a link for what's happening on ?

thisaznboi88

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Its not good as the MS3 or Flashpro but it is working so far. He has been able to advance timing 2 degrees and the car will autotune it self to the correct AFR. FYI for NA guys only. Sorry boosters

Remove the red X

http://www.vX 6 XXperformance.net/forums/7g-performance-discussion/215581-reasonably-priced-piggyback-feeler.html

KN_TL

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Thanks, interesting for sure. It will be a hit if he can get it going. Price point is perfect for most.

Sonnick

^ Definitely. He is doing some great stuff over there, can't wait to see how it performs.
The only thing I wish it did was extend the rev limiter. Obviously that can't be done unless there was a reflash available or a standalone. But that's me just being anal.

bigg_86

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shit count me IN....... HONDATA FTW!

1. Sonnick
2. Justin
3.Richard
4.Aaron
5.Dick
6.tyler
7.austin
8. Will
9. Daniel
10.Dominic
11. the fenda rolla
12. Justin
13. BostonSilverTypeS
14.Paul
15.Emmanuel
16.tony
17.will
18.Jessica
19.matt
20.Kyle
21.Emilio
22.Ryan
23. David - dstah
24.ruben
25.James
26.Alex2192
27. Anil
28.Tom
29.Arthur
30.Jerry
31.Kirby
32.Jared
33. Ali
34. Brian
35. Steve
36. Simon
37. phil
38. Earl
39. Josh
40. David
41. Don
42. John
43. Nigerian Prince
44. bigg_86!!!

bigg_86

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btw anyone in here using an fic? if so what firmware are u guys using?

bigg_86

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what do u mean? how?

Sonnick

^ Not sure, but it is. Hondata has a reflash for the S/C TL. Not sure how many people have it or have used it. Only 2 that I know of. Sneaky bastards...

justnspace

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yeah but we dont know anything other than it was released.
like anx said, could have KO'd the motor, who knows.
I wouldnt hold weight in those 2 reflashes.

maharajamd

iTrader: (1)

Isn't it our car, not the motor, that makes this process so difficult? Meaning all the extra crap that is ran via the ecu?

04socalTL

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ussi had a hondata reflash for his s/c tl

TLove It!

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Is he (ussi) still around? I would love to hear some first hand input on the hondata reflash for the SC.

04socalTL

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he was parting out his TL not too long ago, he had his hondata reflash up for sale, not sure if he ending up selling it or not

abrieluno

This was the last list please don't skip the list

1. Sonnick
2. Justin
3.Richard
4.Aaron
5.Dick
6.tyler
7.austin
8. Will
9. Daniel
10.Dominic
11. the fenda rolla
12. Justin
13. BostonSilverTypeS
14.Paul
15.Emmanuel
16.tony
17.will
18.Jessica
19.matt
20.Kyle
21.Emilio
22.Ryan
23. David - dstah
24.ruben
25.James
26.Alex2192
27. Anil
28.Tom
29.Arthur
30.Jerry
31.Kirby
32.Jared
33. Ali
34. Brian
35. Steve
36. Simon
37. phil
38. Earl
39. Josh
40. David
41. Don
42. John
43. Michael G.
44.Justin
45.Jack
46.hondazex
47.abrieluno
48. J-rogsuperstar (Justin)
49. edmua6 (Arthur)
50. Jibran
51. Mondo375 (Armando)
52. VicTL06
53. gerzand (Andy)
54. Joey TL
55. thisaznboi88 (Ken, Accord V6 6MT) Cash in hand and willing to make it rain
56. rooster415(nelson) ^ what he said
57. Hacura
58. IIDXHolic (Joseph)
59. Atlas.46... thought I was put on this lIst already but apparently not

bigg_86

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holy bastards!!!!!!!!! i WANT!

bigg_86

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WHO ERASED ME?

1. Sonnick
2. Justin
3.Richard
4.Aaron
5.Dick
6.tyler
7.austin
8. Will
9. Daniel
10.Dominic
11. the fenda rolla
12. Justin
13. BostonSilverTypeS
14.Paul
15.Emmanuel
16.tony
17.will
18.Jessica
19.matt
20.Kyle
21.Emilio
22.Ryan
23. David - dstah
24.ruben
25.James
26.Alex2192
27. Anil
28.Tom
29.Arthur
30.Jerry
31.Kirby
32.Jared
33. Ali
34. Brian
35. Steve
36. Simon
37. phil
38. Earl
39. Josh
40. David
41. Don
42. John
43. Michael G.
44.Justin
45.Jack
46.hondazex
47.abrieluno
48. J-rogsuperstar (Justin)
49. edmua6 (Arthur)
50. Jibran
51. Mondo375 (Armando)
52. VicTL06
53. gerzand (Andy)
54. Joey TL
55. thisaznboi88 (Ken, Accord V6 6MT) Cash in hand and willing to make it rain
56. rooster415(nelson) ^ what he said
57. Hacura
58. IIDXHolic (Joseph)
59. Atlas.46... thought I was put on this lIst already but apparently not
60. bigg_86 ^^^^same here ^^^^

everyone double check your name still in the list

justnspace

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at these folks ^^

Do you seriously believe this list will go anywhere!? lolololololololol

KN_TL

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I believe in the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy. I'm pretty sure this is about the same.

EvilVirus

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look what you did justin by creating that list LOL

Sonnick

I am the Easter Bunny........I am Hondata.

swoosh

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Justn the way you dismissed that homeboy was insane....even if he was trying to help, i hope he is gonna come thro LOL....

this has potential for a hall of fame thread.....

i_love_cars

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Joneill44

Justn can I add Biggie and Tupac to the list? Rumor is they are very interested and have friends in high places.

i_love_cars

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get Biggie and Tupac to Tweet that shit IMHO, it'll go viral instantly and we'll have +40 hp hondata in 2 weeks tops.

pohljm

Except we all have gotten something from those two!

anx1300c

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Easter Bunny was ok, but IIRC, Tooth Fairy was a cheap-ass ho.

EvilVirus

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^hey hoes got feels too you know

bmeyer

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Hah. Yeah, there were videos alright, but none really demonstrating things like the "stable" idle with large injectors and actual drivability. The MS3 that you get from J&R is a plain old MS3 ECU ordered right from B&G. NO MODIFICATIONS TO IT. All you're really paying for is a half-assed harness (I've seen several knock boxes not hooked up and about 80% of the people that I talk to don't even have VTEC wired up). The same can be mostly said for the "base tune" as well. Sure, the fuel trims, spark table and firing orders are sort of setup, but really, any decent tuner with a shop manual can do that for you in an afternoon. There are ZERO changes made to things like the after start enrichment and warmup tables. Probably the most critical items as far as drivability is concerned.

I really do have to laugh at the list though, and I can't believe that anyone is gullible enough to believe that putting your name on a list means anything to Hondata. What about every other lists that has been started here where 20+ people would sign up, but maybe 5 people actually PAID? What makes this any different? Hondata has been around the block enough to know where there is a paying market, and with the current 3G TL crowd, it's just not there. The group, as a whole, just doesn't have the technical knowledge that the other groups owners do, and I'm sure that they look at that as part of the deciding factor as well.

But I digress... yes, this was a major rant, but the points remain the same. Hondata likely could give two shits about the TL, and even if they did, maybe 1/10th of the list will actually buy it and, most importantly, it's been nearly a month now with 0 tangible updates which would lead us to think that this is anything except a gigantic hoax.

thisaznboi88

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If hondata doesn't give us what we need we can all spend out money somewhere else. F hondata and their 4 banger love. Over at we already have something cooking I am pretty sure the guy can repin it for TL

bmeyer

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The thing is though that the MS3 can do what we need, but we need someone else to create a true base tune for it. One where the idle maps have actually been tuned, the proper table scaling has been applied, and the hours and hours have been spent on a street tune so that you don't have to worry about things like surging idle, the car dying on you when you pull up to a light, endless CELs, and every other problem that people are seeing with them.

What really should have happened with the MS3 is that the schematics for the harness should have been published so that people could build their own hardware, and the money should have gone into more dyno and street tune hours. Obviously offer a service to assemble harnesses for those that weren't willing to do so, but when you make the schematics available, you gain the knowledge of others in the community and can get some of these ridiculous bugs worked out before they become as problematic as they have. With as many builds as have taken place for the J32, there is such a minuscule amount of useful information about them. You don't grow a successful community by keeping all of the info under wraps.

bmeyer

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Too late to edit...

I mean, think about it... for most of us turbo guys, we're going to need to spend upwards of $800 - $1200 at the tuners to make sure the car is tuned properly. If I gave someone $300-$400 for a base tune, I could STILL probably save a couple hundred bucks of dyno time. Half of that time is spent just trying to figure out either why things like VTEC aren't working, or why the car idles like shit. That's a VIABLE BUSINESS in itself just creating an honest base tune that works. We really don't need Hondata to do that for us. What we really need is someone that can organize it, collect deposits so that the work can actually get done, and then reap the benefits.

thisaznboi88

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it should say over at V.6.P sorry it got edit. The unit that is being R&D right now can use the ECU and auto tune itself.

Joey tl

I'm willing to donate some money for someone experienced to come up with a solid tune for J&R MS3 ECU. I have spent $600-$800 on dyno tuning and still needs more dyno time. Someone who knows our car and the knowledge to play with tunerstudio would be an excellent idea.