3.7 Acura TL SH Intake Manifold!!!!
09-27-2012, 11:57 AM
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but seriously now, 3 and a half years ago racinghart03 installed and removed, said it wasn't worth it. that was over three years ago and the parts werent on for longer than a day. im already committed to this swap but just want to know which one is it, worth it or not. there are talks back then bout losing too much at the bottom, talks now how a full 3.7 pnp along with runners and a bored out tb is way to go. i leaning towards goin all out but am still conflicted with old news. can someone shed some light please. stillhere, justinspace, etc (azine veterans) just a plain yes or no would be fine, 3.7 swap fully modded (ported runners, matched and pnp mani, bored tb)?
What baffles me is that Racinghart was just starting the swap at 4:18 PM, and then at 4:44 PM on the same day, he was saying he lost bottom end and was going to be taking it back off. I mean I know he's an Acura tech, but still, how can one do the swap and then go out and really drive the thing to get a feel for it and report back, all in 26 minutes? Makes no sense to me. I also think he had overly high expectations, saying if it didn't blow his mind he'd be taking it back off. It's not going to blow anyone's mind, even if it yields 10-15 hp.
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09-27-2012, 12:59 PM
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I'm not posting my before/after dyno again lol. It's on the 1st page. Post 30.
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09-27-2012, 01:20 PM
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^^^ free the intake path....my only advice for ya 
09-27-2012, 02:03 PM
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09-27-2012, 02:13 PM
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09-27-2012, 02:14 PM
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wheel spin at vtec in 2nd gear....
EDIT: and am not even punching it....around 50% throttle
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09-27-2012, 02:19 PM
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https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=728797
What baffles me is that Racinghart was just starting the swap at 4:18 PM, and then at 4:44 PM on the same day, he was saying he lost bottom end and was going to be taking it back off. I mean I know he's an Acura tech, but still, how can one do the swap and then go out and really drive the thing to get a feel for it and report back, all in 26 minutes? Makes no sense to me. I also think he had overly high expectations, saying if it didn't blow his mind he'd be taking it back off. It's not going to blow anyone's mind, even if it yields 10-15 hp.
What baffles me is that Racinghart was just starting the swap at 4:18 PM, and then at 4:44 PM on the same day, he was saying he lost bottom end and was going to be taking it back off. I mean I know he's an Acura tech, but still, how can one do the swap and then go out and really drive the thing to get a feel for it and report back, all in 26 minutes? Makes no sense to me. I also think he had overly high expectations, saying if it didn't blow his mind he'd be taking it back off. It's not going to blow anyone's mind, even if it yields 10-15 hp.
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09-27-2012, 02:22 PM
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Justn, you are missing the point dont u think???
what am telling you is no matter how free flowing your exhaust is, if you have a super restrictive cat, it wont matter....
similarly with intake mods, you have bored TB/pnp manifold and runners....if your intake is restrictive, it wont matter, you wont see as much gains as you should be
what am telling you is no matter how free flowing your exhaust is, if you have a super restrictive cat, it wont matter....
similarly with intake mods, you have bored TB/pnp manifold and runners....if your intake is restrictive, it wont matter, you wont see as much gains as you should be
09-27-2012, 02:33 PM
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^^^ yes 2hp
picked up from this thread:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/dyno-day-tomorrow-morning-821171/
Here's the numbers/charts
Run 463 = Stock
Run 462 = AEM V2 = 10whp gain
Run 464 = RV6 V3 J pipe = 4whp gain
Run 467 = RV6 V3 J pipe + AEM V2 = 13whp gain
The J pipe gains only on top and the AEM gains on all the RPM. The ecu is tuned ultra rich! 11.3 on the ''leanest'' run. Another 10whp would be gain if it was around 13.0. May be I'll fix this problem someday. Oh and the ecu was reset to see if it would give better gain on the J pipe but it did not, it was the same before and after the reset. First run of the day was at 08:10 and last one at 09:11. 27-29C was the temp, a very hot day today here.
Now let the madness begin.
Run 463 = Stock
Run 462 = AEM V2 = 10whp gain
Run 464 = RV6 V3 J pipe = 4whp gain
Run 467 = RV6 V3 J pipe + AEM V2 = 13whp gain
The J pipe gains only on top and the AEM gains on all the RPM. The ecu is tuned ultra rich! 11.3 on the ''leanest'' run. Another 10whp would be gain if it was around 13.0. May be I'll fix this problem someday. Oh and the ecu was reset to see if it would give better gain on the J pipe but it did not, it was the same before and after the reset. First run of the day was at 08:10 and last one at 09:11. 27-29C was the temp, a very hot day today here.
Now let the madness begin.
picked up from this thread:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/dyno-day-tomorrow-morning-821171/
09-27-2012, 02:35 PM
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I need a larger intake.....................
09-27-2012, 02:37 PM
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thanks for helping out all the noobs, btw.
you're showing me what I already know!
I never claimed that adding an intake would hurt with my setup.
actually, in fact I do want to buy one.
butt, my point was that I was a little disappointed with the seat of the pants feel.
I read your statements of chirping 2nd and I felt your enthusiasm.
yes, this is why I bought your old set up.
I know it gains. I know how to make more power.
I just felt robbed when I could already chirp 2nd and you were so excited to be able to do that!! lol
you're showing me what I already know!
I never claimed that adding an intake would hurt with my setup.
actually, in fact I do want to buy one.
butt, my point was that I was a little disappointed with the seat of the pants feel.
I read your statements of chirping 2nd and I felt your enthusiasm.
yes, this is why I bought your old set up.
I know it gains. I know how to make more power.
I just felt robbed when I could already chirp 2nd and you were so excited to be able to do that!! lol
09-27-2012, 02:41 PM
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have you decided between 3.5" and 4" ???
thanks for helping out all the noobs, btw.
you're showing me what I already know!
I never claimed that adding an intake would hurt with my setup.
actually, in fact I do want to buy one.
butt, my point was that I was a little disappointed with the seat of the pants feel.
I read your statements of chirping 2nd and I felt your enthusiasm.
yes, this is why I bought your old set up.
I know it gains. I know how to make more power.
I just felt robbed when I could already chirp 2nd and you were so excited to be able to do that!! lol
you're showing me what I already know!
I never claimed that adding an intake would hurt with my setup.
actually, in fact I do want to buy one.
butt, my point was that I was a little disappointed with the seat of the pants feel.
I read your statements of chirping 2nd and I felt your enthusiasm.
yes, this is why I bought your old set up.
I know it gains. I know how to make more power.
I just felt robbed when I could already chirp 2nd and you were so excited to be able to do that!! lol
I still say the same thing....but you also have to realize i installed PCD's and the pnp runners and manifold at the same time....so the gain i felt was off the roof !!!
with that being said, i might be selling my pnp SHAWD Manifold + runners + polished TB + intake setup, let me know if you are interested
09-27-2012, 02:43 PM
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4"
09-27-2012, 02:46 PM
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I concur with mr crabby....i wish people read a little more and not only on this section but also in other parts of the forum....they still create threads with "where do i buy switchbacks" and "whats the best CAI"
Dom, Sonnick is legit he is not a guy who bloats numbers....i trust him
Dom, Sonnick is legit
he is not a guy who bloats numbers....i trust him
09-27-2012, 03:05 PM
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I have some 4" piping left over, let me know if you want it to try it out...will just ship it to you for shipping cost
hahaha....
well u know some people like to be spoon feed....
can we please get an "official" j pipe thread where we can post numbers and pics (hp, coats, wraps, etc) and not 9 threads plus 5 jpipe sales threads. sorry to be off topic but i didnt want to make another jpipe thread stating this. im gonna keep goin since i already started... a single rasp thread stating peoples combinations of exhaust parts instead of a kajillion seperate exhaust combo threads that speak about rasp. no more "vs" threads and just single product reviews. no more "which pads should i get". And this one, are you serious?, "who makes j pipes and whats the power and price?" the internet does parasurfer1979, the internet.
well u know some people like to be spoon feed....
09-27-2012, 04:33 PM
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have you decided between 3.5" and 4" ???
Justn, you all off people should know that mods dont work the same way on different cars....you might not have some "supporting" mods that I do
I still say the same thing....but you also have to realize i installed PCD's and the pnp runners and manifold at the same time....so the gain i felt was off the roof !!!
with that being said, i might be selling my pnp SHAWD Manifold + runners + polished TB + intake setup, let me know if you are interested
How much for the sh Awd manifold/tb and ported runners shipped to 91770 ?
09-28-2012, 08:55 AM
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One million dollars............
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09-29-2012, 12:06 AM
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Hey Swoosh, did you weigh the stock and TL-SHAWD manifolds? Just figuring some ways to drop more weight. Going off the original 3482 lbs number, I'm currently around 3375 with the spare removed. Gonna get a Braille battery and remove the 3rd cat heat shield when I swap j-pipes, so that should put me close to 3350.
09-30-2012, 10:11 AM
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Quick question about a DIY 4" intake, is there a set-up where the breather hose can be connected like the stock intake or AEM intake? Do y'all use a breather filter on the valve cover? Also, where do y'all put the IAT sensor since the 2012 TL SH-AWD manifold does not have plug for it? I think Swoosh said he relocated it to his front bumper, but I'm not gonna splice my wires for that since I wanna keep everything close to stock. If those that have it can post (repost) their set-up that would be awesome! Thanks in advance!
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Hey Swoosh, did you weigh the stock and TL-SHAWD manifolds? Just figuring some ways to drop more weight. Going off the original 3482 lbs number, I'm currently around 3375 with the spare removed. Gonna get a Braille battery and remove the 3rd cat heat shield when I swap j-pipes, so that should put me close to 3350.
also I have the 11lb braille battery which replaced the stock battery and the battery holder/cradle....this setup was 30lbs lighter....
its somewhere around those figures...Quick question about a DIY 4" intake, is there a set-up where the breather hose can be connected like the stock intake or AEM intake? Do y'all use a breather filter on the valve cover? Also, where do y'all put the IAT sensor since the 2012 TL SH-AWD manifold does not have plug for it? I think Swoosh said he relocated it to his front bumper, but I'm not gonna splice my wires for that since I wanna keep everything close to stock. If those that have it can post (repost) their set-up that would be awesome! Thanks in advance!
I have my PCV capped off as in this thread...so instead of the filter, i have it capped off
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/crankcase-coolant-tb-bypass-modification-699978/
10-01-2012, 10:38 AM
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My PCV was hooked into the tube on the AEM CAI, but Idk if it still is lol. It could just be hanging around to be honest, I don't really know. In terms of the IAT, my buddy drilled a hole in my AEM CAI and we threaded it in.
Trust me when I say this. THE 3.7 MANIFOLD/TB SETUP IS TOTALLY WORTH IT.
Trust me when I say this. THE 3.7 MANIFOLD/TB SETUP IS TOTALLY WORTH IT.
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11-05-2012, 04:35 AM
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but seriously now, 3 and a half years ago racinghart03 installed and removed, said it wasn't worth it. that was over three years ago and the parts werent on for longer than a day. im already committed to this swap but just want to know which one is it, worth it or not. there are talks back then bout losing too much at the bottom, talks now how a full 3.7 pnp along with runners and a bored out tb is way to go. i leaning towards goin all out but am still conflicted with old news. can someone shed some light please. stillhere, justinspace, etc (azine veterans) just a plain yes or no would be fine, 3.7 swap fully modded (ported runners, matched and pnp mani, bored tb)?
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=728797
What baffles me is that Racinghart was just starting the swap at 4:18 PM, and then at 4:44 PM on the same day, he was saying he lost bottom end and was going to be taking it back off. I mean I know he's an Acura tech, but still, how can one do the swap and then go out and really drive the thing to get a feel for it and report back, all in 26 minutes? Makes no sense to me. I also think he had overly high expectations, saying if it didn't blow his mind he'd be taking it back off. It's not going to blow anyone's mind, even if it yields 10-15 hp.
What baffles me is that Racinghart was just starting the swap at 4:18 PM, and then at 4:44 PM on the same day, he was saying he lost bottom end and was going to be taking it back off. I mean I know he's an Acura tech, but still, how can one do the swap and then go out and really drive the thing to get a feel for it and report back, all in 26 minutes? Makes no sense to me. I also think he had overly high expectations, saying if it didn't blow his mind he'd be taking it back off. It's not going to blow anyone's mind, even if it yields 10-15 hp.
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the best 3.7L manifold is actually the 3.2L manifold...
its a 3 page thread, read !!! LOL
its a 3 page thread, read !!! LOL
01-17-2014, 11:58 AM
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yes ive read but this thread is old and i dont wanna look even more stupided than i do now asing where too order all the parts by calling this ryan guy so does anyone have a link? , thanks
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