ritchie2428

How much would it cost to swap from an auto to stick? Apparently, it would be easier to just either find a manual and trade.

screaminz28

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The 04 to 06 is a bit cheaper just due to availability and age. I believe if you are paying for labor, you're probably looking in the 4 - 6K range depending on the price you get the parts for.

Even finding a cheap transmission doesn't seem to help much unless you find a full swap cheap because all the little items add up. Ideally you'd want a new clutch and flywheel - cheapest for that is $300 for flywheel and $180 for clutch. Then you still need the hydraulics, the shifter cables, the shifter box, etc. I believe there is also a difference in the harness that must be swapped or at least extensively modified to work, along with a manual ECU or a Hondata.

I've done quite a few auto to manual swaps on different cars and needless to say, the TL is not one of the most cost effective.

teh CL

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100% cost effective to find a 6spd TL-S

Oh Sickest TL

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when my auto blows Ill do a 6 speed swap. Hopefully thats not for a while though

FamilyGuy

Just swap the whole car much easier.

6spd-GERCO

I believe the bell housing is different for the 3.5 07-08 6MT vs 04-06 3.2 6MT.

What makes the swap difficult is all the electronics talking to each other. I am sure it can be done like anything but your better off selling and getting 6MT. Unless you get a smoking deal on a totaled TL-S 6MT that's been rear ended.

I purchased a rusted out Integra for my Auto to Manual swap, $800 for a running car, selling all the parts I didn't need and scrapping the shell I made back all my money and got the parts need for the swap. It's really the way to roll for swaps , you don't need to get nickeled and dimed.

ritchie2428

Essentially, what does the 6MT have that the 5AT doesn't? I think the 6MT has an LSD, and some other things but I'm not sure entirely.

6spd-GERCO

Yes it had an LSD, plus better gear ratios and a few less pounds in trans weight.

llllBULLSEYE

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Yeah cheaper to just swap cars plus less headaches and time.
If this was like the older civics its nothing but for our cars its just
to expensive.

anx1300c

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That's crazy. I plan on selling my car in another year and am only looking to get 5500-6000 for it.

screaminz28

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Yeah my post wasn't clear, but my intent was to show that the 07+ parts would likely be more expensive than the 04-06 just due to age.

I don't think the electronics are difficult per se, but more just that you need a manual engine harness, and then spend a lot of time for all the ancillaries to function properly, like side mirror tilt in reverse.

I miss the days of old when you could just removed the auto, slap in the manual wire a clutch switch and bam done, lol.

polobunny

Yeah, but did your mirror tilt down in reverse?? How could you live with that?

Scottwax

Power transfer is direct vs through hydraulic fluid. The tighter gear spacing helps too. I went from a 4AT Maxima to a 6MT Maxima before I got back into Honda and the difference was pretty big. Typical 5.5 gen 4AT Maxima runs a high 14 at around 93-94. 6MT versions low 14s at 97-98. I don't think the TL differences are quite as big since the automatic is a 5 speed but still should be 3-4 tenths quicker to 60 and quarter mile.

anx1300c

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The TL has roughly the same difference. Stock, base models run low 15's @ 93-94 mph, 6MT is roughly 14.3-14.5 @ 97-98.