SoundmanAB

Hi everyone, I'm looking for some current data on brakes and rotors for my 2007 Acura Tl type - S.

I'm doing all the pads and all rotors at the same time on the car.
I don't race, but do tend to get into the 85MPH zone while driving on the expressways.

My environment: Orlando, Florida. The roads and climate are very hard on brakes and tires. Currently, Orlando has an 8 year massive road construction project going on. When driving it’s not uncommon to go from driving along at 70mph to having to come to almost a complete stop while working through bottlenecks and vehicles in the road system. Brembo blanks have warped a few times in the past because of the roads demands, high heat environment, coupled with huge puddles from massive amounts of rain.

I'd like less brake dust than the Brembo pads.
I've heard some suggest go with Brembo blanks for the rotors, but i'm worried about warping
I was thinking akebono ceramic pads against Brembo Blanks?

Do i go drilled?
What is the forums "real world" experience on drilled or slotted? I've heard reports that they crack between the drilled holes. True or untrue?
TIRES: I'm running a new full set of Michelin Pilot Super Sport's

sockr1

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akebono ceramic pads on slotted stoptech rotors. out of all my setups this is by far my favorite. stops great, no dust. fan for life of akebono pads now.

drilled won't help or hurt for daily driving, they are just for looks. i went slotted because i like how they look. if you go blanks, go centric, they are the non performance brand of stoptech (or stoptech is the performance brand of centric i forget).

Taquila1

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sockr1 's got it right

LoveMyTL-S

I also live and work in and around the Orlando area (St. Cloud). I drive through the Belle Isle area to and from work. And also drive a type S. Yea, it would be nice when they finish the Ultimate Project. Ceramic pads are the way to go for good performance and less dust. I run the R1 concepts brake pads and cross drilled rotors.
They look and feel great! No issues so far.

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1black_seven

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I bought a set of hawk pads that lasted me about 5 years, and reduced brake dust to nill. There's really no benefit for you to use drilled or slotted rotors other than aesthetic.

fishinmagician

Orlando here also! I just put on akebono ceramics and they are great.After one week of driving I4, the rims are still somewhat clean, as in not completely caked in dust.

Erniquez

I bought the Blank rotors with the Pads as a package from Xlr8 and the Pads after like a week started Squeaking OD and they left my wheels super dirty. I wanted to know if the Akebono Pads would also work with my blank Rotors on my base 07?

sockr1

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yes they will work. you will have almost no dust with them. the squeaking usually means break in wasn't done properly or they weren't lubed right

Erniquez

Yea I probably didn't break them in correctly being my first time doing it, But should be super great to not have so much break dust. do the Akebono have to be broken in also?

sockr1

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some will argue yes but akebono says you do not need to. i did a semi break in and they are fine

Erniquez

semi break in as in you only did the First set? and where did you get the Brakes from, I saw them on parts geek but im not super sure what sites are good and what aren't.

mtiaz

My current set-up are StopTech street pads & Centric plain rotors. The centric plain rotors have warped ever so mildly after 18,000km or so.
I loved the pads (great bite, no noise but still dusts though not as bad as OEM Brembo pads) but the rotors were shit - or maybe I just ran into bad luck.

I've decided to go back to Brembo blanks and Brembo pads from Acura this time around again as the previous did about 65,000km on the original set without issue.

justnspace

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bed-in/break-in procedure to correctly mate the pads and rotors...JUST MEANS to do some high speed stops, without completely coming to a stop...
A) 60mph-10mph slow down.
B) do it again.

Sockr1 said semi-break in...so most likely did one aggressive stop and that was it

you dont want to come to a complete stop or you'll melt the pad material onto the rotor.

justnspace

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pad bed-in is MY FAVORITE TEST DRIVE!

Erniquez

Thanks for The information, I have a feeling I probably messed it up the first time I tried it. I think I read on the Xlr8 site that if you melt the material you have to sand the rotor or something like that, IIRC

Erniquez

Sorry For thread Jacking Soundman lol

treal512

Centric blanks (125.40062) with Akebono ceramic pads (sockr1 rec) here.

Super easy install w/no bed-in process yet and they're working great. VERY little brake dust so far too Can't really comment on performance or longevity b/c ~3k mi, but if I had to say vs OEM setup the braking power has been reduced very minimally. Seems to be just a touch less bite in the initial grabbing of the brakes now. Or that could simply be because I'm completely used to the TL dual caliper braking system now. Not sure. Anyways, my 2 cents.

ExcelerateRep

When it comes to a street car I either recommend blank or slotted rotors. Drilled rotors tend to be a bit harder on pads, they can be noisy, and they're also more prone to grooving.

Centric (StopTech) blanks should always treat you well, they're an OEM quality rotor, so they're have to meet the same standards at the Brembos that come on the car. If you find yourself with some brake pulsations/vibrations a bed-in procedure usually rectifies that - so I always say to start there!

If you're looking for something other then the Street Performance pads included in our axle pack, then some blank rotors and Akebonos are a great substitute! We recommend that setup to customers in shop (across most platforms) who are trying to cut back on dust without giving up too much performance. Plus one vote for Akebonos here!

1black_seven

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Hey Rep, are to XLR8 mounts discontinued? I went into the shop trying to find them and all I see are the Innovative mounts.

Si_jeff

Where do you guys buys the Brembo blanks for the Type S that you guys are talking about? I could not find them anywhere, unless you guys mean the OEM Rotors from the dealer?

ExcelerateRep

We ran out of our XLR8 mounts a little while ago, so we've been selling Innovative's mounts in place since they make a quality piece as well. We aren't really planning on having anymore made at the moment, but plans can be subject to change.

Sorry guys! </3

You can find the Innovatives here: 10750 - Innovative Steel Motor Mounts - Excelerate Performance - European, Exotic and Japanese Performance Specialists!!

Good luck & happy modding!

sockr1

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have you sold or heard anything about the new paramount series from innovative? the ones that cost 500? it says less vibration than the existing innovative mounts but i find that hard to believe. any thoughts?

truonghthe

Tirerack has blank Brembo rotor, shop around you probably find a better deal.

ExcelerateRep

We haven't sold any of their new Paramounts in shop yet, but I did hear about them!

The word on the street is they've been redesigned with a larger load bearing bushing which is capable of supporting more weight. It's ability to take more weight means it can support the mount better on all sides, and it's ability to support the mount better means less stress and increased longevity. Since the load bearing bushing in there is more capable, this allows them to run a softer durometer outer bushing; which results in less vibration!

I don't see any reason why (following the above formula) the new design wouldn't cut back on some of the harshness!

If anyone would like to speak first hand we'd love to hear it! Otherwise I can give you a little update when/if we hear something.

4drturbo

old thread. but was wondering what you guys are running now? pads are low on my fronts. daily driver. never sees the track. akebono and centric blanks = best setup?

Euro-R_Spec_TSX

Akebono ASP1001 for Brembo calipers. Best pad I've ever used. Very minimal dust, no squeaking and the pedal feel and bite is like stock.I have some expensive RB two piece rotors, but if I didn't, then I would use OEM rotors (made by Brembo).

DMZ

The only problem I had with the Akbeno's was that once they were about half worn, they started to squeak like all hell. According to Paul, he's seen many Akbeno installations go south around the time the pads were half worn. Otherwise, they were great pads.
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4drturbo

What's that supposed to mean "The installations go south when the pads are half worn"??? Did you mean to say the performance of the pad goes south once they're half worn?? Bit confused. So much conflict in information I might just go the duralast route get a set of duralast rotors and a set of their ceramic pads and call it a day.

sockr1

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Akebono all day every day. I put them on all my cars and have recommended to tens of people. All love them so far. Mine started to squeal a bit but I just regreased and all has been well since!!

go akebono!

4drturbo

Regreased what? The back of the pad?

onetrillionrpm

Ohhh I'll play.

I have an 08 type-s and currently am using Brembo blank rotors, and Hawk 5.0 pads.The rotors seem to really hold up to heat well, I have a long commute using mostly twisty back roads which can lead to higher speeds, specifically if I'm running late!

Pros are the pads have great initial bite, even when cold, this gets even better when they are warmed up. I have yet to experience brake fade with my setup, but ABS likes to kick in what I feel is a bit early on this car.


My only qualm is the rears to tend to squeak, and they are quite dusty, the dust seems to be especially sticky.



I also have a very high power DMS(450whp, non ABS, manual brakes), on which I’m using Hawk HPS pads. The 5.0’s are not nearly as aggressive, but are quite a bit cleaner. The 5.0’s also seems to be a bit more civilized, if that makes sense. They are also easier to modulate at lower speeds, but nowhere near as easy to manage when pushed to the edge under threshold breaking.



The brakes are one of the things I love most about this car, well that and the creamy smooth j35!



The best thing I did in terms of breaking was simply flushing out the old fluid for some quality Dot 4 stuff.