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Old 02-22-2011, 11:25 PM
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New Kicker Stock Sub Replacement

Hey guys,

I was just wondering if the new Kicker 8 inch COMP VT shallow sub will work well in our stock sub placement. I'm looking for bass that's better then stock, but nothing too crazy. And I'm not sure if it's a free-air sub or not, but I know it's supposed to be shallow for tight fits. Oh btw, it's going to be hooked up to the Alpine MRV-F450 amp. Any info would be appreciated.

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Originally Posted by oarichard
Hey guys,

I was just wondering if the new Kicker 8 inch COMP VT shallow sub will work well in our stock sub placement. I'm looking for bass that's better then stock, but nothing too crazy. And I'm not sure if it's a free-air sub or not, but I know it's supposed to be shallow for tight fits. Oh btw, it's going to be hooked up to the Alpine MRV-F450 amp. Any info would be appreciated.

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Only Kicker C8 is freeair. I used it in my 8th Gen Accord coupe. It's only 100rms max but it works perfect bro.
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Originally Posted by ParaSurfer1979
Only Kicker C8 is freeair. I used it in my 8th Gen Accord coupe. It's only 100rms max but it works perfect bro.
Oh ok. How was that, did it bump a lot better than stock? And did it sound clean? 100rms is a bit low, lookin for ~200rms.
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Oh ok. How was that, did it bump a lot better than stock? And did it sound clean? 100rms is a bit low, lookin for ~200rms.
Freeair will always be lower on power handling. I was 200watt max It bumped a lot better than the stock accords 40rms sub
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100 and 200 are both low. Some people feed their mids that. What's holding you back from getting a sub/box?
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Originally Posted by Trunk Monkey
100 and 200 are both low. Some people feed their mids that. What's holding you back from getting a sub/box?
Well I had an Alpine Type R 10 inch in a ported box and was waaay too loud for my taste. I'm just looking for good enough bass for everyday listening. Plus I like to keep my car as light as possible.
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Then throw that type-r 10 in a sealed box. Wouldn't take up but half the space of the ported box and you'd get plenty of output (way more than a free-air 8"). You can always turn the bass down and adjust it to your liking....once you start trying to get more out of a little free-air 8", hello distortion. Not sure what the type-r likes sealed but try a nice 8" or 10" sub that only needs a small sealed volume and only needs 2-300 watts.
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Originally Posted by Trunk Monkey
Then throw that type-r 10 in a sealed box. Wouldn't take up but half the space of the ported box and you'd get plenty of output (way more than a free-air 8"). You can always turn the bass down and adjust it to your liking....once you start trying to get more out of a little free-air 8", hello distortion. Not sure what the type-r likes sealed but try a nice 8" or 10" sub that only needs a small sealed volume and only needs 2-300 watts.
The Alpine Type R setup was sold. I just installed the Kicker 8 inch CVT.

They sound pretty good for a stock sub replacement, but of course they werent as loud as my type R 10 inch in the ported box. I was surprised the Kicker CVT 8 inch was nearly the same size as the stock sub. Bumps a LOT better than stock but not too crazy, just what I wanted. Nice and subtle for everyday listening. Although I think my amp is too strong for the sub, I can't put the settings on full bass.

Overall I am satisfied with the 8 inch CVT and it'is pretty strong for a little guy.
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Yeah they definitely shouldn't be all the way up for BASS or SUBWOOFER. I've got mine on:

Bass: 0...or in the middle
Subwoofer: -2
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btw the kicker c8 I had was the 4ohm one. was 38 bux shipped.
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Originally Posted by Trunk Monkey
Yeah they definitely shouldn't be all the way up for BASS or SUBWOOFER. I've got mine on:

Bass: 0...or in the middle
Subwoofer: -2
Is it the stock navi settings or an aftermarket head unit?
Mine's on a Pioneer AVH 4200; Bass: +2 and Subwoofer: -10

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btw the kicker c8 I had was the 4ohm one. was 38 bux shipped.
Wow. $39 shipped from where? I got the 4 ohm CVT8 for $90. But it was straight from a retail audio shop.
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Originally Posted by oarichard
Is it the stock navi settings or an aftermarket head unit?
Mine's on a Pioneer AVH 4200; Bass: +2 and Subwoofer: -10



Wow. $39 shipped from where? I got the 4 ohm CVT8 for $90. But it was straight from a retail audio shop.
id like to know too
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Yeah where can i get this 40.00 sub?! haha. i just want a little boost in bass nothing crazy... that and call me weird but i like having trunck space!
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OP, Is it possible if we can meet up so i can listen to your new sub. Mine stock went out, so i am looking for a replacement.
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I googled the Kicker C8 and found then for 44.00 but it does not say anywhere that they are a free air sub.
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OP, Is it possible if we can meet up so i can listen to your new sub. Mine stock went out, so i am looking for a replacement.
Sure. I can also refer you to my Audio guy, he has real great prices.

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I googled the Kicker C8 and found then for 44.00 but it does not say anywhere that they are a free air sub.
I never said they were free air
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Originally Posted by oarichard
Sure. I can also refer you to my Audio guy, he has real great prices.



I never said they were free air
The C8 is indeed free air. I had one installed in the previous car i had 8th gen accord.
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Originally Posted by Comptechtl2367
I googled the Kicker C8 and found then for 44.00 but it does not say anywhere that they are a free air sub.
reading all these threads about subs and what not made me want to get a nice little sub, a little more powerful than stock, but I like my trunk space too, and I hate when there is a heavy ass system in the trunk and make the car sag in the back.

So I don't know if I want a box in my trunk, get a replacement sub in the place of the stock (little more powerful with an aftermarket amp), or do I want to do something like in the niebur3's thread and what he did with the one mounted right behind the seat. Smaller probably. Problem is I know nothing about this stuff haha
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Originally Posted by myron
reading all these threads about subs and what not made me want to get a nice little sub, a little more powerful than stock, but I like my trunk space too, and I hate when there is a heavy ass system in the trunk and make the car sag in the back.

So I don't know if I want a box in my trunk, get a replacement sub in the place of the stock (little more powerful with an aftermarket amp), or do I want to do something like in the niebur3's thread and what he did with the one mounted right behind the seat. Smaller probably. Problem is I know nothing about this stuff haha
Yea, get a little 8 inch sub for your stock replacement and a lil amp for it. Go to your local Audio shop, and tell them what your looking for.
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200W from that alpine is too much to put into the rear deck. It is not strong enough to handle a sub like that. 75W or so, might be OK - this is about twice the stock.

You can drop a little 8 in a sealed box at less than .5 cu ft and push the 200W to it. You could even mount it to the back of the seat and have it push through the ski pass. It might empty into your trunk about 6" if you build the box long and skinny.
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ok so is the kicker c8 better than the cvt 8??? i have 2 12" jl audios sitting in my garage but i also dont want a box in the back of my car. not too worried about the trunck space but about the extra weight. so i think getting a stock replacement would be the best thing for me. i have a rockford 1800 watt amp is this too much for either one of these 8" subs??? dont mean to thread jack but i think others may want to know which is better from these two, and also i googled it too and found a couple. there is also a c88 with 8ohm is this better or not?

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Originally Posted by oarichard
Yea, get a little 8 inch sub for your stock replacement and a lil amp for it. Go to your local Audio shop, and tell them what your looking for.
Yea I could go that way but then I would have to deal with rattles of the back cover and doubt I will like the sound of the sub. It doesn't seem to be worth it replacing the stock sub. I'd want to go with a 10" or 12" for more kick
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Originally Posted by jr27
ok so is the kicker c8 better than the cvt 8??? i have 2 12" jl audios sitting in my garage but i also dont want a box in the back of my car. not too worried about the trunck space but about the extra weight. so i think getting a stock replacement would be the best thing for me. i have a rockford 1800 watt amp is this too much for either one of these 8" subs??? dont mean to thread jack but i think others may want to know which is better from these two, and also i googled it too and found a couple. there is also a c88 with 8ohm is this better or not?
the cvt isn't free air so for the set-up the OP wants the C8 is better.
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Originally Posted by oarichard
Oh ok. How was that, did it bump a lot better than stock? And did it sound clean? 100rms is a bit low, lookin for ~200rms.
Can you use the stock amp and just plug in the new sub
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Originally Posted by FramkPic85
Can you use the stock amp and just plug in the new sub
Why would you do that?n Unless the new sub is more efficient, the sub will sound the same. If the sub is more efficient then there will be a difference in sound. My Accord the 100watt blue thunder amp sounded great. Stock ELS sub amp channel will be 50-70watts max 15-20watts RMS.
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