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Ok, so I have an 04 TL w/NAVI and had this same issue. I decided to upgrade to the 07-08 NAVI system as not having the clock in sync would drive me crazy! Now that it's 2022 the 07-08 unit is not syncing and having the exact same issues as the 04-06 models. Is anyone else having this issue or if I get a new NAVI DVD will it fix the issue? (I know the NAVI disc is old but did not care to get a new one as it's not much use to me)
This is so frustrating, UGH!!!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Have you attempted to call 888-528-7876 and talk with a tech? They may be there still as they're on PST. They're are a lot of tickets open on this problem and as I indicated yesterday on this thread that the tier 2 engineers are working the issues and supposedly will have a fix on or before August 2022.
Ok, so I have an 04 TL w/NAVI and had this same issue. I decided to upgrade to the 07-08 NAVI system as not having the clock in sync would drive me crazy! Now that it's 2022 the 07-08 unit is not syncing and having the exact same issues as the 04-06 models. Is anyone else having this issue or if I get a new NAVI DVD will it fix the issue? (I know the NAVI disc is old but did not care to get a new one as it's not much use to me)
This is so frustrating, UGH!!!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Just started having the same issue with my 08 TL-S. Can't adjust clock and it shows an hour fast. I just upgraded to the 2021 Navi DVD a couple months ago. I would guess now all remaining 04-08 TLs will be having the same problem.
I posted on Instagram and around 80 had the same issue this week across Acuras and Hondas.
sucks
i did the battery reset at the time it kept resetting to so hopefully it stays like that until the next daylight time change or the next time I unplug the battery for car work
You can also pull fuse number 5 under the steering wheel
The other day my clock was one hour behind the EST time.
I read the owners manual but was unbale to fix the problem including the manual adjustments.
I called USA Honda and spoke with a team member and he indicated that this problem even exits for newer ACURA models including 2019 and 2020 MDX and RDX.
It is a software problem and they are working on a fix.
Unlike newer models they cannot send a fix via the internet which my 2008 TL does not have internet capabilities.
They took my email and cell number and said they will contact me when a new CD will be sent with the software fix,
Nice that ACURA is still providing an update to a 14 year old TL.
What's weird is that in the setup page, the MDX clock still shows a time while the TL clock shows 0:00... I'll probably call Acura with this information but I'm not optimistic. Maybe now with over 100k cars affected, they will do something.
Sounds like everyone that is having the problem, no matter the year, should inundate the Acura/Honda Tech Line at 888-528-7876 and open a ticket for this issue.
THE MORE PEOPLE THAT CALL AND THE MORE THAT VOICE CONCERNS ABOUT THESE ISSUES, THE SOONER WE GET IT RESOLVED.
You can also pull fuse number 5 under the steering wheel
In the case of the '07/8 Nav clock disaster, apparently ACS and HCS we barraged with calls yesterday. I was one of them! They 'said' Honda engineers are already working on a fix (which I believe this time considering the number of Honda and Acura vehicles affected) and it will be sent over the air, so one day magically mysteriously the time will all of a sudden correct itself.
In the driver side fuse box pull fuse 5 and reconnect it at 1:00. That's what I had to do on my 06 TL. I was disconnecting the battery until another forum member discovered the fuse.
I was hoping rolling into 2022 would fix my 06 but it seems like instead it broke everyone else instead.
I have an 06 RL, and yes the clock jumped an hour ahead, and I can't change it. Also the calendar reset to 2002, also can't seem to change it. I will try disconnecting the battery and see if that solves the issue.
So annoying, this is the 1st time I've had this issue. If anyone else resolves it let us know please.
Unlike the '04/5/6 Nav clock debacle, this is affecting 100's of 1000's various models of Acuras AND Hondas. I think they're taking this one seriously.
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Guys, here is the answer/explanation for the latest clock and date issue starting on Jan 1 2022. It says Honda and Acura are aware of this global wide issue.
All is here: https://tiremeetsroad.com/2022/01/03...ncorrect-time/
Unlike the '04/5/6 Nav clock debacle, this is affecting 100's of 1000's various models of Acuras AND Hondas. I think they're taking this one seriously.
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Just pull it in the dealer they will pulling the fuse 1 at a time lmao. Tech get .05 hour
Excuse my poor choice of words here..but I think this is a good thing...I'll explain. First - the fact that this a a global thing (maybe it was before this just happened again on New Years) and the fact that SO many models are having this issue is big. Coupled with the fact that it's hitting vehicles as new as 2020 it can't help Hoda/Acura look good and it "seems maybe" like they probably have to do at least something- I dunno. If they are indeed getting flooded with calls (which I believe) this being global problem, and so many years and models being effected it will only force Honda/Acura to honestly address it seriously I would think.
same if I try to adjust it just switches back to 12:00 but the dash reads an hr fast from the time it actually is even tho Navi clock only reads 12:00
2007 Type-S here. Same problem with an hour ahead. Issue started on Jan 1/22.
Just curious, when you unplug the battery for a minute at 1:00pm to ‘fix’ the issue, does the Nav need the special code to be able to use again? Also does the engine computer loose all the info on your driving that it has to relearn again? (sorry not 100% sure on what that means, just what I’ve been told in the past).
Thanks!
Guys, here is the answer/explanation for the latest clock and date issue starting on Jan 1 2022. It says Honda and Acura are aware of this global wide issue.
All is here: https://tiremeetsroad.com/2022/01/03...ncorrect-time/
I'm in the 07/08 boat. I"m eagerly waiting for a fix! I dunno how they can push something over the air though? I thought all the Navi updates were on the dumb CD in the trunk...
Ugh! I thought it was related to a weak battery or something, now that it's getting cold... but I see it's happening everywhere.
I wonder if it's GPS receiver related, or something else... GPS has a "rollover" every 1024 weeks (~19.6 years). While the rollover from week 1023 back to 0 occurred in 1999 and 2019, it's typical for receivers to to assume the date won't be earlier than the date its firmware was written, so it knows week 0 is 2019, not 1999. But when the week number becomes ambiguous, it's not smart enough to know what to do.
So, it's not unrealistic to think that the 2007-2008 system could be running a GPS receiver with firmware from 2003. And since the 2004-2006 started doing this a year ago, maybe its firmware is a year older?
I'm not sure why our cars don't just run with the wrong date... maybe that's a check in the navi disc software? Maybe in a few years it'll just start working again, thinking it's 2007. ;-)
Has anyone tried pulling the battery while parked in a garage with no GPS reception? Does that allow the clock to be manually set, until GPS is acquired? I have a GPS simulator... I guess I could try experimenting with with various dates and see what happens.
Does anyone know where the GPS receiver itself is located? I think the GPS antenna is near the trunk, so I assume the receiver is built into the rear unit (with the DVD)? We might be able to simply swap the GPS receiver for a modern module that outputs compatible messages (NMEA is typical, though some use a binary standard like TSIP or similar).
Guys, here is the answer/explanation for the latest clock and date issue starting on Jan 1 2022. It says Honda and Acura are aware of this global wide issue.
All is here: https://tiremeetsroad.com/2022/01/03...ncorrect-time/
Awesome, thanks for sharing this. I agree that hopefully they issue a fix for all models, 04 and forward!
I'll say it again... hopefully everyone does it as there is no software or hardware cure that we can do other than replace the entire unit with a third party system from 2020 or after and prefereably not made by alpine, the manufacrturer of the Acura navigation system. However, once again, I'll reiterate what the tier 2 engineer I talked with on the phone last week indicated that they ARE WORKING the problem (for the 2005 but possibly other years as well) and supposedly that will be finished with the fix by August of this year. Everyone that is having the problem, no matter the year of the vehicle or the year of the navigation system, should inundate the Acura/Honda Tech Line at 888-528-7876 and open a ticket.
THE MORE PEOPLE THAT CALL AND THE MORE THAT VOICE CONCERNS ABOUT THESE NAVIGATION GPS CLOCK ISSUES, THE SOONER WE GET IT RESOLVED.
Thank you for your inquiry, Robert. At this time, Acura is aware of the issue regarding the clock issue, but there is no fix available at this time. Our engineering team is looking into the issue, but there is no ETA on if/when a fix will be available for the issue. We apologize for the inconvenience. ^
2005 RL has same exact problem started on 1/1/2022
Originally Posted by skh
Now that it's 2022 the 07-08 unit is not syncing and having the exact same issues as the 04-06 models
Been googling this problem for an hour now, keep finding threads here about 04-08 TL's, but it just happened to my 2005 RL too - dash clock is one hour ahead, can't change the clock using the NAV setup screen (says 12:00 am and it's stuck there), and the calendar is stuck on 1/1/2002 - WTF? Acura has known about this problem with TLs for over a year and hasn't fixed it - anyone having the same issue with an RL? Don't know the exact date of my NAV DVD, but it's less than 6 yrs old, maybe only 4 (from 2018). Haven't seen any options on the RL's screen about resetting GPS or syncing NAV and dash clock.
However, once again, I'll reiterate what the tier 2 engineer I talked with on the phone last week indicated that they ARE WORKING the problem (for the 2005 but possibly other years as well) and supposedly that will be finished with the fix by August of this year.
Somebody above posted an engineer expected a fix by Aug 2021 - but you just posted this message today (1/5/22) and say "fix August of this year"? Which is it? Cannot believe it can take Acura 1.8 years to fix this stupid problem!
It's ALL Honda and Acuras up thru at least 2012 with this issue
Just found this article online - every Honda and Acura made/sold anywhere in the world for years 2004-2012 have suffered this problem of incorrect date (1/1/2002) and being unable to adjust the clock - this STINKS!!! But we're not alone - think about how many million Accords, Civics, Pilots, and Acuras have been sold with this faulty NAV system during those years - Honda had better get off their asses and fix this or there will be a class action lawsuit filed under some "lemon law" act or similar:
Affected Honda and Acura owners report similar issues, their date, and time are wrong and no longer update automatically.
And, when owners do try to manually adjust time and date, their date reverts to a certain date in 2022 (often January 1, 2002) and time jumps back to a specific hour. Time shown on the navigation and stereo unit also do not match.
Honda USA– “We have escalated the NAVI Clock Issue to our Engineering Team and they have informed us that you will experience issue from Jan 2022 thru August 2022 and then it will auto-correct. Please be assured that we will continue to monitor this and will advise you if a fix is available before that time.”
Honda UK– “We have just received some more information regarding this and were advised that the Honda technical department are currently working on this.Once there is a fix for this issue Honda authorized dealers will be made aware of it and will be able to assist with this at that point.“
“As such, it would be best to check with your local Honda authorized dealer for any updates as they would have the latest information for this and will be able to assist once the fix is released. They can also contact the Honda technical department for additional assistance with this if necessary.“
Y2K22 Bug
The best explanation of what’s happening is from Drive Accord forum member Jacalar. After poking around in his Accord’s Navigation systm diagnostic menu, he discovered his GPS date was set 1024 weeks back, or May 19, 2002.
“This is actually a GPS Epoch issue,” Jacalar says. “Going into the “hidden” diagnostic menu on Sunday, I discovered the GPS date was now “May 19, 2002″. That date was exactly 1024 weeks ago (1024 = 2^10) We jumped forward an hour due to May being in daylight savings time.”
“Many GPS devices only work on a single 1024-week span and will no longer show an accurate date once the week count rolls over, regardless where that roll over falls,” 2012 Honda Accord HFP further clarified.
As mentioned by the above Honda CR-V owner, this is likely a coding issue that is head unit specific.
Honda and Acura head units are receiving the correct signals for date and time from GPS satellites or manual input and, due to a technicality of how date and time is digitally stored, cannot store a specific date and time past Dec 31, 2021.
Most likely, Honda is working with their head unit suppliers to come up with the best solution.
We’ll hear an update from Honda soon, as this is a global problem.
A fix may come in the form of a recall and updated discs, or as they mentioned, it will self-correct by August.
I’d also monitor forums, as unofficial fixes from affected owners are sure to come.
If you’re affected, hang tight and don’t count on relying on your Honda and Acura for the date and time for several months.
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Just found this article online - every Honda and Acura made/sold anywhere in the world for years 2004-2012 have suffered this problem of incorrect date (1/1/2002) and being unable to adjust the clock - this STINKS!!! But we're not alone - think about how many million Accords, Civics, Pilots, and Acuras have been sold with this faulty NAV system during those years - Honda had better get off their asses and fix this or there will be a class action lawsuit filed under some "lemon law" act or similar:
Affected Honda and Acura owners report similar issues, their date, and time are wrong and no longer update automatically.
And, when owners do try to manually adjust time and date, their date reverts to a certain date in 2022 (often January 1, 2002) and time jumps back to a specific hour. Time shown on the navigation and stereo unit also do not match.
Honda USA– “We have escalated the NAVI Clock Issue to our Engineering Team and they have informed us that you will experience issue from Jan 2022 thru August 2022 and then it will auto-correct. Please be assured that we will continue to monitor this and will advise you if a fix is available before that time.”
Honda UK– “We have just received some more information regarding this and were advised that the Honda technical department are currently working on this.Once there is a fix for this issue Honda authorized dealers will be made aware of it and will be able to assist with this at that point.“
“As such, it would be best to check with your local Honda authorized dealer for any updates as they would have the latest information for this and will be able to assist once the fix is released. They can also contact the Honda technical department for additional assistance with this if necessary.“
Y2K22 Bug
The best explanation of what’s happening is from Drive Accord forum member Jacalar. After poking around in his Accord’s Navigation systm diagnostic menu, he discovered his GPS date was set 1024 weeks back, or May 19, 2002.
“This is actually a GPS Epoch issue,” Jacalar says. “Going into the “hidden” diagnostic menu on Sunday, I discovered the GPS date was now “May 19, 2002″. That date was exactly 1024 weeks ago (1024 = 2^10) We jumped forward an hour due to May being in daylight savings time.”
“Many GPS devices only work on a single 1024-week span and will no longer show an accurate date once the week count rolls over, regardless where that roll over falls,” 2012 Honda Accord HFP further clarified.
As mentioned by the above Honda CR-V owner, this is likely a coding issue that is head unit specific.
Honda and Acura head units are receiving the correct signals for date and time from GPS satellites or manual input and, due to a technicality of how date and time is digitally stored, cannot store a specific date and time past Dec 31, 2021.
Most likely, Honda is working with their head unit suppliers to come up with the best solution.
We’ll hear an update from Honda soon, as this is a global problem.
A fix may come in the form of a recall and updated discs, or as they mentioned, it will self-correct by August.
I’d also monitor forums, as unofficial fixes from affected owners are sure to come.
If you’re affected, hang tight and don’t count on relying on your Honda and Acura for the date and time for several months.
Thank you so much for the update. None of the Tier 2 engineers have indicated anything to this affect.
Mrs2TL is laughing 'cuz her 08 MRP Base has buttons to set the time, and it works!
Every time we go out in the TL-S she asks what time is it?
(She can be mean.)
Yeah, this definitely looks like a GPS week rollover issue. I looked at my diagnostic menu this AM and it said it was 5/22/2002, which is 1024 weeks ago.
If they're saying a fix is coming in August, maybe that means when the year is reported as 2003 (which will happen on August 17th 2022), the unit will be happy again... and we're just stuck in limbo for this last half of (what it thinks is) 2002. If I get some time, I'll test this theory with the GPS simulator.
I assume 2021 is the last Navi disc update that we'll get for our system, since other 2022 discs have been released, but it still shows 2021 as our latest. So I doubt they'll be pushing out a real fix for us in a 2023 Navi update disc. And our cars are old... it's naive to think Honda/Acura actually cares about releasing a fix for us (2004-2006 TLs never got a fix when theirs did this a year ago).
And I think I answered my own earlier question... according to the system diagram, the GPS receiver is part of the navigation unit in the trunk. So, if I get some time, maybe I'll pull the unit and pop it open, and see which GPS receiver was used, and if it's something I can swap. I'm guessing if I put a new GPS receiver that actually reports the correct date that the Navi unit will be happy with it (seems to know about dates beyond 2022).
Mrs2TL is laughing 'cuz her 08 MRP Base has buttons to set the time, and it works!
Every time we go out in the TL-S she asks what time is it?
(She can be mean.)
Is she also sticking her tongue out at atchya saying "Told ya We Didn't Need Navigation!" ?
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Yeah, this definitely looks like a GPS week rollover issue. I looked at my diagnostic menu this AM and it said it was 5/22/2002, which is 1024 weeks ago.
If they're saying a fix is coming in August, maybe that means when the year is reported as 2003 (which will happen on August 17th 2022), the unit will be happy again... and we're just stuck in limbo for this last half of (what it thinks is) 2002. If I get some time, I'll test this theory with the GPS simulator.
I assume 2021 is the last Navi disc update that we'll get for our system, since other 2022 discs have been released, but it still shows 2021 as our latest. So I doubt they'll be pushing out a real fix for us in a 2023 Navi update disc. And our cars are old... it's naive to think Honda/Acura actually cares about releasing a fix for us (2004-2006 TLs never got a fix when theirs did this a year ago).
And I think I answered my own earlier question... according to the system diagram, the GPS receiver is part of the navigation unit in the trunk. So, if I get some time, maybe I'll pull the unit and pop it open, and see which GPS receiver was used, and if it's something I can swap. I'm guessing if I put a new GPS receiver that actually reports the correct date that the Navi unit will be happy with it (seems to know about dates beyond 2022).
DogP
So do the 04-06 TLs also see this problem fix in August too?
Honda USA– “We have escalated the NAVI Clock Issue to our Engineering Team and they have informed us that you will experience issue from Jan 2022 thru August 2022 and then it will auto-correct. Please be assured that we will continue to monitor this and will advise you if a fix is available before that time.”
01-03-2022 | 05:56 PM
my 08 is having the same issue now too.. so much for that 
Honda eventually sent out free navigation update discs to affected owners after two months.
