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Old 11-05-2008, 10:04 AM
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ZKW lenses for $100 + shipping

I think these are the real deal... just wanted to spread the word

http://www.clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=389749

ZKW TL lens Combo - $100
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:49 AM
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hmmmm??? should i?

not! dont really need them like that, yea i do want them but they could wait
Old 11-05-2008, 10:59 AM
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are these really that much better?? noticeable?
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If they are indeed REAL ZKW lenses, they are simply amazing! The cutoff is sick.

I know JnC has posted some pictures of them somewhere...
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^^ Those are ZKW projectors with TL stock lenses

I know the member, he used the lenses for his retro and the stock OEM fresnel lenses that he took off of the TL projectors he swapped them into the zkw projectors
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^ Good to know JnC. Thanks for clarifying.

Sorry guys!!
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wish they where the ZKW lense i would have brought 1 asap!
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whats the big hype with ZKW lenses?
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Originally Posted by ray-ban
whats the big hype with ZKW lenses?
cutoff cutoff cutoff
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like a laser! pa-jeeeeew!
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Crap, i wish i saw these a week ago before i got my replicas
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Originally Posted by ussi
Crap, i wish i saw these a week ago before i got my replicas


Reading PWNZ you.
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Originally Posted by ray-ban
whats the big hype with ZKW lenses?




this is why.
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Originally Posted by jmkiang
ZKW TL lens Combo - $100
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already could tell they're not REAL zkw lens by looking at them....
they're not clear....

good thing JnC mentioned it here or else lots of people will assume they're real zkw lens....
Old 11-05-2008, 08:01 PM
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no, you just have to do the reading, the seller said ZKW TL combo

normally in our 3G headlight mod, we call them TL/ZKW combo, so you figure. the seller did not mislead any information.
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these photos do not make me want the new lenses more. I don't even know what you are showing me that should be more exciting? I just want to know what the fuss is about.

A while back there was some thread where people were excessively excited about weathertek floormats. But then when some photos were posted, the mats were HORRIBLE.
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Originally Posted by xen-cuts
these photos do not make me want the new lenses more. I don't even know what you are showing me that should be more exciting? I just want to know what the fuss is about.

A while back there was some thread where people were excessively excited about weathertek floormats. But then when some photos were posted, the mats were HORRIBLE.


A clear lens swap generates the following

1) A crisp razor sharp light cut off.
2) Better spread of light.
3) A wider beam.
4) Flicker affect due to the razor sharp cut off.

I am sure you know what your TL headlights produce at night as far as light output is considered, following is output from one TL projector with a clear ZKW lens.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...62209404703385

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...88334681485905

Here are some pictures of another clear lens combo to better indicate what I am talking about, pictures have been borrowed from a fellow member at HIDplanet.com.







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BTW the clear lens swap is useless if not paired with a set of Philips 85122+ bulbs and no they are not the smurf colored higher kelvin bulbs.
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Man... that last pic is
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Originally Posted by JnC
BTW the clear lens swap is useless if not paired with a set of Philips 85122+ bulbs and no they are not the smurf colored higher kelvin bulbs.


No one wants to buy my 85122+s
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Originally Posted by jmkiang


No one wants to buy my 85122+s
You are a fool to sell them in the first place
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^ Ouch.

Not getting another video for you...
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Originally Posted by xen-cuts
these photos do not make me want the new lenses more. I don't even know what you are showing me that should be more exciting? I just want to know what the fuss is about.

A while back there was some thread where people were excessively excited about weathertek floormats. But then when some photos were posted, the mats were HORRIBLE.
says the guy who's never expereinced what they do...

I have one of the most modded TL's here, and let me say, the ZKW lens swap is in the top 5 best mods.
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xen-cuts, I think you'll need to see the ZKWs side by side with stock. It'll blow your mind!
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Originally Posted by JnC
A clear lens swap generates the following

1) A crisp razor sharp light cut off.
2) Better spread of light.
3) A wider beam.
4) Flicker affect due to the razor sharp cut off.

I am sure you know what your TL headlights produce at night as far as light output is considered, following is output from one TL projector with a clear ZKW lens.

That looks UNREAL ...what do I need to get that kind of lighting...just the ZKW lenses?
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^^Clear lenses + 85122+ bulbs
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JnC,
Phillips should consider you as their sales person for their 85122+ bulbs.
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Originally Posted by lights
JnC,
Phillips should consider you as their sales person for their 85122+ bulbs.


I am working on getting the stock ballasts boosted to 50 Watts Watch out DL50s here I come

If that works then great otherwise working on a spare set of 07 base headlights with quad projectors but thats on the back burner.
Old 11-07-2008, 04:36 AM
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Reading PWNZ you.
doh!
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Originally Posted by JnC
^^Clear lenses + 85122+ bulbs
how much would it typically be to have clear lenses bought/installed and is it a direct fit to the OEM brackets or w/e that are used for the stock lenses?
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Before I start, kudos to those fellow TL owners spending the time & effort to install these ZKW lenses on the TL, since we all take the pride to mod. our rides.

I just wish I had the time & energy to perform the ZKW lens swap on my TL. I have a pair of ZKW lenses, which I planned to put them in my truck. Had an accident so the truck got written off. To me it makes more sense to spend the time & effort to retrofit these ZKW lenses in the truck since the truck did not have HID & projectors on it. It really is an upgrade to go from halogen to HID with ZKW lenses.

Given the fact that TLs come with "NOT AS BRIGHT AND SHARP CUTOFF" projectors...... Can't we not see clearly at night with the stock TL headlights?

Thinking about the work one has to go through just for slightly better cutoff & light output:
1) take off front bumper
2) take both headlights out
3) Put the lights in oven to take the covers off
4) disassemble headlight components to take lenses out
5) install lenses
6) might as well clear/darkout headlight, add daemon eyes, body color match
7) reassemble headlights
8) MOST IMPORTANT PART: reseal the headlights
9) install headlights back on TL
10) put bumper backon
11) test the headlights and pray for no condensation!
12) if there is condensation, repeat steps 1, 2, 3, 8, 9, 10 & 11

Guess I'm getting older. I would not even think twice to start this project if it were 8 years ago. Now i just think about the amount of work....... I would ask.... why do I want to take these nice headlights apart since they both are working perfectly fine & looking nice? I pay for them and now I'm spending more time & make more effort to make them work... just slightly better?

Damn I guess I'm just trying to convince myself to sell my ZKW lenses...... lol

I guess I better put the flame suit on. For those who have ZKW lenses, please do not bother telling me how the ZKW lenses perform better compared to the stock TL ones. I know how they look and perform.

BTW, fellow Vancouverites, PM me if you wanna make an offer on the lenses I have.
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Originally Posted by mamamilk008
Thinking about the work one has to go through just for slightly better cutoff & light output:
1) take off front bumper
2) take both headlights out
3) Put the lights in oven to take the covers off
4) disassemble headlight components to take lenses out
5) install lenses
6) might as well clear/darkout headlight, add daemon eyes, body color match
7) reassemble headlights
8) MOST IMPORTANT PART: reseal the headlights
9) install headlights back on TL
10) put bumper backon
11) test the headlights and pray for no condensation!
12) if there is condensation, repeat steps 1, 2, 3, 8, 9, 10 & 11
you could've asked me to do all those steps for you here so you don't have to.

Originally Posted by mamamilk008
Guess I'm getting older. I would not even think twice to start this project if it were 8 years ago. Now i just think about the amount of work.......
i'm 33 and still clearing headlights for local TLers, that's include installation and everything. i told myself the same thing i wouldn't even think twice to start if it were many years ago, i was probably the first one who put a set of S4 projectors in my 98 accord properly. after many years, i thought i was too old to do this stuff, but once you go big, you can't go back. go big or go home.

Originally Posted by mamamilk008
I would ask.... why do I want to take these nice headlights apart since they both are working perfectly fine & looking nice? I pay for them and now I'm spending more time & make more effort to make them work... just slightly better?
the same reason why we mod our TL. it already came pretty nice stock.
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it would be really nice to see a side by side pic of the stock and ZKW. we would be able to see clearly what the difference is
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Originally Posted by saltysteve
it would be really nice to see a side by side pic of the stock and zkw. We would be able to see clearly what the difference is

+1
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THought you guys would never ask .

Pictures courtsey of fellow member superjoe83 at HIDplanet.com

I'll let you guys guess which one is which One of them is with stock TL projector and the other is with TL projector with real ZKW lens and the foreground shield a bit bent to increase the output height.






































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i know that there are a few threads on this, but its so awesome!!

STOCK:



ZKW lens With foreground limiter bent forward slightly (I'm not sure if this actually did anything or if the ZKW made the beam taller, either way I'm happy!!!!

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I dont know I guess I dont really appreciate this mod like others do. I'm definitely not knocking it though.
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is that with the upgraded bulbs as well?
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Originally Posted by Elegant TYPE S
I dont know I guess I dont really appreciate this mod like others do. I'm definitely not knocking it though.
agreed...it is nice, but the amount of work that needs to go into it is just too much IMO for it
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bulbs? are those the stock bulbs in both pics?
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Think these would be good?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-...6#ht_17908wt_0


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