WHY is the TL Leather SO SOFT?!
03-28-2011, 10:32 AM
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WHY is the TL Leather SO SOFT?!
I have tinted windows, I clean and leatherique it all the time, use a sun gard, and park it in the garage, giving the leather the BEST conditions to survive.
Yet the slightest little imprint leaves a mark on the leather. I always have outlines of belts, pins on peoples pants, or any minor thing that touches the leather that leaves a mark.
Is there anything I can do to get rid of these things? Jeez
Yet the slightest little imprint leaves a mark on the leather. I always have outlines of belts, pins on peoples pants, or any minor thing that touches the leather that leaves a mark.
Is there anything I can do to get rid of these things? Jeez
03-28-2011, 10:45 AM
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i have the same problem. i just flatout refuse to ride with anybody in my car. you'll keep less friends with this method, but in the end...your leather will look great for years to come. who needs friends when you have a quality interior?
jk...but i feel your pain. TL "leather" leaves a lot to be desired. it is one thing i dislike about the car.
jk...but i feel your pain. TL "leather" leaves a lot to be desired. it is one thing i dislike about the car.
03-28-2011, 10:48 AM
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03-28-2011, 01:15 PM
#12
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Your TL is split leather {lower grades of bottom hide} covered w a spray top coat that wears off. Had a 2nd gen TL (been there).
Split leather will also crease.
Many Auto makes and models have done this for years.
You wont find Top Hide unless you buy a $ 200 K like car
but some are now using Full Hide if you pay more for it. Full Hide is a second grade to Top Hide and much better than Split Hide w coatings.
I wish the TL was better and more like the Full Hide in my MDX Advance.
Leather used in Automobiles
Automobile manufacturers have blurred the distinguishing lines on what exactly leather is. Premium leather is the top split of the hide. There are many so-called ‘leathers’ that are actually the bottom split (the fibrous part of the hide). In accordance with US government standards theses should be labeled as 'split leather', although they are being sold by many automobile manufacturers as ‘premium leather’. Some of these ‘split leathers’ are covered with a vinyl or urethane coating. The coating looks good when new but will wear off and the split hide under creases.
Leather is the most delicate and difficult to maintain of any vehicle surface. It ages and wears faster than surrounding materials which can depreciate the vehicle's re-sale value. Before using a leather care product, a detailer needs to know the material they are working on, and whether the product chosen is compatible with the material and will not damage it. Diagnosis is the key, not guess work. Before deciding on what products to use, you need to ascertain what type of leather finish you have and whether the pigmented leather has a polyurethane covering, or is uncoated, finished natural leather. This is critical, as the cleaning / maintenance varies for each type (although all types require a water-based product to maintain hydration - a suede type leather like Nubuck is the exception).
Automotive leather care is a subject surrounded with misinformation and myth. Products such as leather (Saddle) soaps, oil-based Conditioners, Neats-foot oil, and Hide Food still prevail as top sellers, albeit most are made for equestrian tack. These are very different leathers with drastically differing care requirements. The exact reason for this type of misapplication is unclear. It’s possible that there is an association with old world quality (i.e. European automobiles with leather upholstery and real burl wood interiors) with these types of products, despite the fact that the automotive industry has been using water-based polyurethane covered pigmented leather for many years and expensive leather care products do more harm than good on these materials.
Split leather will also crease.
Many Auto makes and models have done this for years.
You wont find Top Hide unless you buy a $ 200 K like car
but some are now using Full Hide if you pay more for it. Full Hide is a second grade to Top Hide and much better than Split Hide w coatings.
I wish the TL was better and more like the Full Hide in my MDX Advance.
Leather used in Automobiles
Automobile manufacturers have blurred the distinguishing lines on what exactly leather is. Premium leather is the top split of the hide. There are many so-called ‘leathers’ that are actually the bottom split (the fibrous part of the hide). In accordance with US government standards theses should be labeled as 'split leather', although they are being sold by many automobile manufacturers as ‘premium leather’. Some of these ‘split leathers’ are covered with a vinyl or urethane coating. The coating looks good when new but will wear off and the split hide under creases.
Leather is the most delicate and difficult to maintain of any vehicle surface. It ages and wears faster than surrounding materials which can depreciate the vehicle's re-sale value. Before using a leather care product, a detailer needs to know the material they are working on, and whether the product chosen is compatible with the material and will not damage it. Diagnosis is the key, not guess work. Before deciding on what products to use, you need to ascertain what type of leather finish you have and whether the pigmented leather has a polyurethane covering, or is uncoated, finished natural leather. This is critical, as the cleaning / maintenance varies for each type (although all types require a water-based product to maintain hydration - a suede type leather like Nubuck is the exception).
Automotive leather care is a subject surrounded with misinformation and myth. Products such as leather (Saddle) soaps, oil-based Conditioners, Neats-foot oil, and Hide Food still prevail as top sellers, albeit most are made for equestrian tack. These are very different leathers with drastically differing care requirements. The exact reason for this type of misapplication is unclear. It’s possible that there is an association with old world quality (i.e. European automobiles with leather upholstery and real burl wood interiors) with these types of products, despite the fact that the automotive industry has been using water-based polyurethane covered pigmented leather for many years and expensive leather care products do more harm than good on these materials.
03-28-2011, 01:39 PM
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Use Lexol Cleaner and Conditioner. It will literally undo the damage that is caused from people sitting in the seats as long as you get to it within a day or two of when they actually sat in the car. It has kept my passenger seat and back seat looking like new with just a little commitment to condition after people sit.
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