koolposter

Nothing abnormal I would say. Just the engine has more vibration when cold, especially in the morning.

Blazing GT

justnspace

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I'm assuming; no check engine light, run 91+ octane, maintenance is up to date, and your car is running normal.

as explained to you earlier, FWD cars will not give you that PULL that you desire/compared to all those other RWD cars.

ParaSurfer1979

You don't think there is a slight surge in when vtec x-over happens? Does the surge smooth out with mods? Usually an intake will make the vtec surge more noticeable but headers/j-pipe smooth out the tq curve. My CL-S6 def had a surge at vtec. Less so in the TL auto.

cjTL

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Comparing a TL to a C350 isn't really equal. Looking at just horsepower numbers, they look similar in performance. My sister has an 08 C350 that I drive pretty often and it indeed feels faster than my TL. Why? Well...3.5L 268hp V6 versus the TL's 3.2L 258hp V6. The TL's transmissions (5AT or 6MT) don't stand a chance against the Benz's 7AT. And looking at the toque numbers (TL is 233lbs @ 5000RPM the Benz is 258lbs @ 2400RPM), that'll also play a big role in the "quick" feeling. The C is much more powerful at lower RPMs.

Couple all that with the Benz's RWD...and you can see why the TL feels so slow

Ken1997TL

Far less of a surge than a Prelude or Integra, the difference is night and day.

Will Y.

The problem with the "feel," or butt dyno, is that it may be inaccurate. The stock '74-81 Z-28 Camaros will have more low-down torque and "feel" a lot faster than the 3G TL, which will leave most of those stock 5.7L V8s for dead on a track. The Z28 will "feel" faster, but is actually slower.

You'll see from various magazine tests that the TL and the C350, 330i and G35 all have about the same 0-60- around 6-6.5 seconds with an automatic.

Take your TL, go to a runway or some open & safe private road and see if you can do 0-60 in less than 7 seconds (slop for driver & timing errors) with VSA off and brake torquing. If so, your car is fine and it's just smoother and less dramatic in accelerating than the other cars.

Aman

^ Better yet, take it to a proper dyno and see what numbers you get. If your peak horsepower is less than, say 205, then there might be some things you'd like to catch up on.

tamadrumr88

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I kind of thought the same too, especially after all of the recent maintenance that I did.

Only once since owning the car I've had the dread APP sensor CELs (2122 and 2127), but I assumed it'd only be a problem when the light was on. Looks like it's time to plunk down $120 from oemacuraparts

Sir Drake

Tell me you didn't buy the TL to race and expect ridiculous speed results...its a great car very nice and for the most part luxury...with some oomph in it...you should have got the type s and modded it for that matter...not to knock you or anything...i enjoy the sport shift occasionally lol...take care of it and it will last forever...CAI doesn't really do any justice but cost you money...so don't bother with it if you think its going to help...

SouthernBoy

Just a quick note. You can't install headers on our TL's because there is no exhaust manifold.

ParaSurfer1979

i was posting for all j-series. J-30 and early J-32's.

koolposter

OK. I will get the APP sensor checked out.

FWIW - the CAI came with the car from previous owner, I don't plan on doing any modding to my TL. And I don't plan on doing any racing either, I wouldn't even attempt to chasing down a G35... (vs. Z06 etc.)

I hate cars

Agreed. Generally flat torque curves feel slower. Ride in an LT1 and an LS1 car back to back and you would swear the LT1 is quicker even though its not. My friend's Mustang feels MUCH quicker than my TL but the TL consistantly squeezes out a narrow win. I prefer a torquey car for a daily. I'm used to 620lbs hitting me in the back all at once once the turbo comes on line. There's nothing like that feeling to put a smile on your face. When I first bought the TL I would wait for that surge but it never came.

myblack04tl

My TL feels like it has more off the light torque than my Turbo Regal, BUT when the turbo on the Buick spools up the tires start to break loose. What an awesome feeling, and my Buick is way slower than I hate cars

ky5totan

koolposter,

I know exactly what you feel about the car, because I have the same issue bothering me since now. After I drove my friend's G35 you could tell the exactly difference of how quicker those cars pick up you step on the gas pedal. I believe that how everyone said about difference between FWD and RWD-(throwing back seat feeling) I think thats the primary reason. But still, I still feel sth wrong with my car- 07 base TL/NAV, every time when I key in/start up my car I can't feel the powerful from the engine, I feel the starting sound from engine is very weak. although I never drove any other TLs, every time I hear other Tls powerful started from engine. I can feel that my engine is weak. What you guys think about? might be my start plug or sth else? I want to know what you guys feel/sound from engine when you start up your TL?

bukjoe15

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just get a super charger and call it a day

aimtimes100

acuras ecu adapts to your driving style.you said you never floored it before correct?this means that your car now normally cruises and accelarates at a smoother pace rather then rapidly like i guess you expected.reseting the ecu like the others suggested it probably the best way to go

jpgayan

C350 has a 7-speed auto vs the TL with a 5-speed auto. Makes a big difference.

aimtimes100

infiniti gcoupe. after seeing reviews,opinions from people, features, new and cpo pricing i dont see what would make u not get this car other then not being able to afford it or dont see the need for another car in general if u already have an acura

koolposter

I need a sedan, can't get coupes. I did consider the G sedan, but didn't really like the older gen's style and the newer ones are still out of my price range. I had and Acura before, but it was sold some time ago...
But you are right, I would have gotten a G37 sedan as it should be a reliable 4door car with some haul. $$. If I hadn't put on a SC on the M5, I would have probably gone with the G, but can't have everything life right??

05 NHB

How many miles do you have on your odo? If it's significant and you haven't had your fuel injectors and throttle body cleaned before, try that. Do you use premium or cheapo discount gas? If you do, try switching to a high grade premium like Shell with nitrogen or Exxon with Techroline. These gasolines contain cleaning agents that can help keep your fuel system fairly clean an give you better performance. Also, you should "OPEN" it up every once in while by going WOT in a safe area to do so, this'll help clear the cobwebs and any carbon buildup in your engine. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

cjTL

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Huge. The low-end torque makes it feel way faster than it is.

myron

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lets see some pics of this supercharged m5

B-R-94

The issue here is that you're driving an automatic. The sports shift sounds nice (never tried it) but it just doesn't compare to the control you have with an MT (which I have tried). I can feel the torque in a 5spdMT civic, and that's a tin can compared with the TL. The TL is no supercar but with a MT you can feel more.

jwr0ng626

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i didnt feel any torque w/ my manual civic? lol it was all sound no goooo

justnspace

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x1billion

B-R-94

You can get it, but only at high rpm. And remember, it's EXTREMELY minimal. Just an example of the difference between manual and auto.