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Old 03-01-2004, 09:56 PM
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Who's the guilty party?

I just bought a Sony/Ericsson T616 yesterday from AT&T for a trial period.

I paired the phone with the TL without too much hunting around. Everything appeared to work OK. So, this morning I tried my first phone call.

There were complaints on both ends: My voice sounded tinny and hard to understand to the person on the other end. On my end, their voice was loud enough, but highly distorted.

I tried about a dozen HFL phone calls, with similar or worse results. Non-HFL calling on the T616 was OK.

So, who is the culprit? Is it a bad Bluetooth / HFL implementation on the TL, or is it the S/E T616?
Old 03-01-2004, 10:06 PM
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im not sure but i hear da T616 has some echo problems when in use so i did not upgrade from my current T68i, but i heard dat Sony is bringin out T630 to hopefully fix those issues so i would return to AT&T for now
Old 03-01-2004, 10:19 PM
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The quality of my T68i is terrible. Cracks and static all the time using the Bluetooth radio.

It's not the fault of the TL HFL because it sounds the same with my Jabra Bluetooth headset. It also is highly unreliable as a BT modem with my ipaq. Personally I just think that SE Bluetooth radios are crap and as such, I keep doing my damnedest to break this phone to justify purchasing another BT phone from another manufacturer. But alas, this cheap squeaky plastic phone is pretty much indestructable.......sigh..........
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616's need a software upgrade to work correctly
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I have recently purchased T630 (better version of T616) and the HFL works great!
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Originally posted by ndabunka
616's need a software upgrade to work correctly
I have the Sony T616, and haven't noticed any problems. But can you provide the source for the software upgrade?

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YOU SHOULD WAIT FOR THE NEW NOKIA BLUE TOOTH...ACTUALLY ITS ALREADY AVAILABLE ON THE WEB...LOOKS REALLY NICE!
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I have the Nokia 3620 and it works fine.
Old 03-01-2004, 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by ndabunka
616's need a software upgrade to work correctly
This raises two questions:

(1) How do I find out what firmware version I currently have?

(2) How do I download the upgrade?

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Old 03-02-2004, 12:08 AM
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Originally posted by żGotJazz?
This raises two questions:

(1) How do I find out what firmware version I currently have?

(2) How do I download the upgrade?

Thanks!
There are provider specific wireless forums just like these car forums where you can lurk, post and learn a lot. You can start at Howard Forums (click here for their AT&T section). From there you should be able to find links to other forums dedicated to AT&T. One or more of them will undoubtedly keep an updated list of the most current firmware versions and tower data (roaming info) for most AT&T phones.

To find your firmware version, assuming my SE T608 is at all similar to your T616, try Menu/Settings/Other/Phone Info, then scroll down to a line that says "SW:[your version number]". Sprint phones have go into the store for a firmware update, but tower data updates can be fed over the air. I don't know if AT&T operates the same way, but you can find that out at the forums also.
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Well, I think I have the latest firmware version (R1B027), so the firmware probably isn't the problem.

Warning! Use the following information at your own risk!

For those of you interested in finding out your T616 firmware version number, you can try the following:

Use the following key sequence (where <= means push the joystick to the left; => to the right, and * means press the * key):

=>
*
<=
<=
*
<=
*

Then, select "Service Info." and then select "SW Information".

From what I saw on other boards, the latest firmware version is R1B027 (I also see a prgCXC11-22569.MARTHA and prgCXC11-22579.TAE, which I understand to be correct as well).

The only thing I'm wondering about is at the bottom, where I see an "ITP Version R1A030 PRGCXC1122568.TP". I wonder if that's correct?
Old 03-02-2004, 01:42 AM
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does anyone know if there is a currently available bt phone from sprint?
Old 03-02-2004, 08:03 AM
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Originally posted by digital_b
does anyone know if there is a currently available bt phone from sprint?
Sony Ericsson T608. Not Available in stores or online, only through Sprint Telesales, 1-866-PCS-AUTO (1-866-727-2886) for $199.

It's a pretty good phone, very small and pocketable, excellent reception & sound quailty, and works flawlessly with the HFL. Battery life could be better, especially with bluetooth enabled. Only thing I don't like about it is the screen. It lacks both brightness and contrast, and I can't read it while wearing sunglasses.

If you really want one, you'd better hurry. They were a very limited production run, and when they're gone, that's it, they're gone (if not already). I've read on the wireless boards that Sprint has newer bluetooth phones in the works for later this year. Sometimes you can catch a preview at www.phonescoop.com.
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Originally posted by acuraddict
YOU SHOULD WAIT FOR THE NEW NOKIA BLUE TOOTH...ACTUALLY ITS ALREADY AVAILABLE ON THE WEB...LOOKS REALLY NICE!
you better check it out in person if you're thinking about getting it. it looks good on the web pic, but the thing is ridiculously large in real life.
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I have se t616, no problems from myself or folks receving the call.
Old 03-05-2004, 04:52 PM
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Both my wife's and my T68is work flawlessly with the 04 TL. The car's system sounds better than any headset I've used. That includes a rather expensive SE BT Wireless rig I have.
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sprint is about to have [actually you can buy it on phone sales only] the t600 I believe which is the only bt phone for sprint. so are you saying that sony ericsson is to be avoided? that sucks.
Old 03-05-2004, 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by acuraddict
YOU SHOULD WAIT FOR THE NEW NOKIA BLUE TOOTH...ACTUALLY ITS ALREADY AVAILABLE ON THE WEB...LOOKS REALLY NICE!
Which phone is that? I've been looking into Nokia Bluetooth phones, but most of them are not available in the US. I have to import them and there is no gurantee that all the features of tthe phone will work. I wish someone would come out with a phone the I like already.
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