wheelie ???
10-29-2004, 04:27 PM
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wheelie ???
does it just seem like the front wheels are up in the air:
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that would be really cool for 270 hp
it's clear though that it's not hard start picture since the back of the car is pretty high ... but cool pic anyway.
the image is taken from this car and driver article: http://caranddriver.com/article.asp?...&page_number=6
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that would be really cool for 270 hp
it's clear though that it's not hard start picture since the back of the car is pretty high ... but cool pic anyway.the image is taken from this car and driver article: http://caranddriver.com/article.asp?...&page_number=6
10-29-2004, 04:39 PM
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Back in my SERIOUS muscle car days getting the front wheels higher than a coke bottle from launch was a rite of passage, though I must admit getting a FWD car's fronts off the ground would be far more impressive from a launch!
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10-29-2004, 06:33 PM
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Kind of looks like he might be driving really fast over the crest of the hill and got airborne.
10-29-2004, 06:36 PM
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That is obviosuly a picture of a TL that is already travelling at a significant velocity, which drove over the crest of a hill or bump, and got a little airborn.
Anybody with even a basic understanding of physics would laugh at the prospect of a front-wheel-drive car "popping a wheelie"!
"Wheelie???" is a terribly inaccurate title for this thread.
EDIT: Ron beat me to the punch, but he's very right.
Anybody with even a basic understanding of physics would laugh at the prospect of a front-wheel-drive car "popping a wheelie"!
"Wheelie???" is a terribly inaccurate title for this thread.
EDIT: Ron beat me to the punch, but he's very right.
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10-29-2004, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Repecat
Couldn't you do a wheelie in reverse? Ha ha
Actually, with FWD, proper chassis tuning (for extreme weight transfer to the front), enough traction, proper gearing and enough power you could lift the rear wheels in reverse. Thats something I bet someone somewhere in the import set has either seriously tried or has done...
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10-29-2004, 10:10 PM
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I dont know too much about fwd having owned only rear drive cars prior to the TL (with the exception of a shitty integra) but i would always get wheel hop when slamming on the gas in my rwd cars....is wheel hop possible in fwd, and if it is, wouldnt that constitue a 'wheelie', although not in the traditional sense, but at least allowing the front wheels to go some distance off the pavement.
10-29-2004, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MisterLawyer
Anybody with even a basic understanding of physics would laugh at the prospect of a front-wheel-drive car "popping a wheelie"!
well, i guess some people didn't get that 
10-30-2004, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by subinf
I dont know too much about fwd having owned only rear drive cars prior to the TL (with the exception of a shitty integra) but i would always get wheel hop when slamming on the gas in my rwd cars....is wheel hop possible in fwd, and if it is, wouldnt that constitue a 'wheelie', although not in the traditional sense, but at least allowing the front wheels to go some distance off the pavement.
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10-31-2004, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by savageTL
Wheel hop is indeed possible in an FWD car. I suppose one one could consider it a wheelie the same way you could consider tachycardia exercise...
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LOL!
10-31-2004, 09:32 AM
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Wheel hop is indeed possible in an FWD car. I suppose one one could consider it a wheelie the same way you could consider tachycardia exercise...
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Isn't wheel hop when you floor it trying to spin the tires, and the tires momentarily catch traction while spinning causing a hard vibration? Like in a drag race if you pop the clutch at the wrong RPM you experience wheelp hop from the tires momentarily gaining and losing traction? Or am I wrong?
10-31-2004, 11:51 AM
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Pulling a wheelie in a front drive car is a physical impossibility. It just ain't gonna happen.. unless you are traveling in reverse.
Now causing the front wheels to bounce enough to leave the ground due to axle tramp (wheel hop) is certainly possible.. but that's not a wheelie.
BTW, wheel hop is usually caused by spring windup.
Now causing the front wheels to bounce enough to leave the ground due to axle tramp (wheel hop) is certainly possible.. but that's not a wheelie.
BTW, wheel hop is usually caused by spring windup.
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Originally Posted by te3point5
Isn't wheel hop when you floor it trying to spin the tires, and the tires momentarily catch traction while spinning causing a hard vibration? Like in a drag race if you pop the clutch at the wrong RPM you experience wheelp hop from the tires momentarily gaining and losing traction? Or am I wrong?
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Originally Posted by apwalsh
I think wheel hop is from weight transfer causing less pressure on the front tires and therefore less traction. The wheels are not actually hopping off the ground as far as I know, that's just what they call it.
The wheels actually hop, if they do not then it is called tramp.
Wheel hop is when a wheel or wheels bounce up and down so violently that they leave the ground. Excessive unsprung weight, poor shock damping, poor torsional axle control and bad shock positioning all can cause wheel hop, the more torque you have the worse it can be. RWD cars most often see hop from axle windup (poor torsional control) but that is not an issue with FWD cars.
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10-31-2004, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by savageTL
In a word...no.
The wheels actually hop, if they do not then it is called tramp.
Wheel hop is when a wheel or wheels bounce up and down so violently that they leave the ground. Excessive unsprung weight, poor shock damping, poor torsional axle control and bad shock positioning all can cause wheel hop, the more torque you have the worse it can be. RWD cars most often see hop from axle windup (poor torsional control) but that is not an issue with FWD cars.
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The wheels actually hop, if they do not then it is called tramp.
Wheel hop is when a wheel or wheels bounce up and down so violently that they leave the ground. Excessive unsprung weight, poor shock damping, poor torsional axle control and bad shock positioning all can cause wheel hop, the more torque you have the worse it can be. RWD cars most often see hop from axle windup (poor torsional control) but that is not an issue with FWD cars.
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10-31-2004, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by apwalsh
Sorry I was referring the the FWD version of wheel hop only.
Doesn't really matter, IF the wheel does not leave the ground it is NOT wheel hop. Wheel hop can occur on FWD or RWD and even AWD but it is more difficult because it requires significantly more torque.
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I obviously don't know that much about this, so thanks for the clarification. I should have just said that alot of people think they are experiencing wheel hop from the feel and noise of it but that is not always the case.
Is that at least correct?
Is that at least correct?
10-31-2004, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by apwalsh
I obviously don't know that much about this, so thanks for the clarification. I should have just said that alot of people think they are experiencing wheel hop from the feel and noise of it but that is not always the case.
Is that at least correct?
Is that at least correct?
Sure, slipping tires from loss of traction could fool someone into thinking that it is wheelhop particularly if they have never experienced true wheelhop. Once you feel it, particularly in a FWD car (since you feel it in the hands as well as your butt) you will recognize it instantly.
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