What do you pay a month for your TL?
#84
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Originally Posted by carguyrob
I was just wonder what people are paying for a car payment on their TL (purchases, not leases). I am really just curious how many are taking on a big car loan to get the car they want. I know people's comfort levels with debt and incomes vary widely.
I am paying cash (well, actually a check) for my TL.
What are your payments and for how many months?
I am paying cash (well, actually a check) for my TL.
What are your payments and for how many months?
#85
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Well here's my lease. I used leasecompare.com I got alot better deal than Acura was offering!
ABP/Navi/Auto 15000 miles a year! 39 months
2500.00 Cap Cost Reduction
406.61 First months Payment
210.00 Title, Reg and,License Fee
841.00 Upfront Sales Tax NJ
152.00Doc Fee
Money Factor: 0.0022
Payment includes Gap Insurance and Leasecompare fee
Paying 406.61 a month 15,000 miles a year
ABP/Navi/Auto 15000 miles a year! 39 months
2500.00 Cap Cost Reduction
406.61 First months Payment
210.00 Title, Reg and,License Fee
841.00 Upfront Sales Tax NJ
152.00Doc Fee
Money Factor: 0.0022
Payment includes Gap Insurance and Leasecompare fee
Paying 406.61 a month 15,000 miles a year
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Originally Posted by fmzip
I just got my first quote:
$615/mo
36 month lease
25,000 miles per year
How does this sound?
$615/mo
36 month lease
25,000 miles per year
How does this sound?
#88
Originally Posted by peacefrog
Wow thats alot of miles.....are you a salesman or something? May want to think about buying with that kind of driving
I can't see where buying a new car would be worth it for me ever again. I will burn up these cars and they will have very little value in 4 years with 100,000 miles on them. There is no "value" per se in a depreciating asset such as an automobile unless you buy a Ferrari and don't drive it...
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So I am going from a benz to an Acura TL. If I could only get it through my head that it is a piece of transportation to get me from point A to poinnt B, it would save me alot of money. I love driving though so I am not ready for a Camry!
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Originally Posted by fmzip
How many miles a year on that lease?
I am looking to get into a TL and I will use it for business. I need 25,000 miles a year. Is $3160 under MSRP too good to get? What has everyone else paid?
I am looking to get into a TL and I will use it for business. I need 25,000 miles a year. Is $3160 under MSRP too good to get? What has everyone else paid?
My lease is 10K miles a year. The 42 months quote I provided is 12K miles.
#91
I just picked up my 05 TL 6MT w/Navi, think I got pretty good deal on my lease.
$680 at signing (includes 1st month payment)
$509/mo x 39 months
13,800mi/yr
Traded in a 2000 Lincoln LS which I owed 8k on - they gave me 10k.
All in all walked out with a new TL about $1300.
$680 at signing (includes 1st month payment)
$509/mo x 39 months
13,800mi/yr
Traded in a 2000 Lincoln LS which I owed 8k on - they gave me 10k.
All in all walked out with a new TL about $1300.
#92
take out a equity loan (lower rate) and use it for a income tax deduction as well, then take the cash and invest it . I am in sales which mean I can deduct the car as work a work deduction over 3 year at 11k a year in deduction. I also get milage reimbursment from work at about 600 a month. My payment is $506 and whne factoring in all the deductions and milage plus investment of my money, I am actually making money on the loan.
#93
04 TL w/ protection package in CA.
$33,905.10 OTD
Downpayment = $3,000
2.9% APR from Honda Finance ( got it during memorial weekend yay!)
$550 / month for 60 months
I'd say i got a great deal. =)
$33,905.10 OTD
Downpayment = $3,000
2.9% APR from Honda Finance ( got it during memorial weekend yay!)
$550 / month for 60 months
I'd say i got a great deal. =)
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fmzip
Originally Posted by fmzip
Oh, that's zero down
$600s for a TL lease, sounds a little high, and you can BUY instead and get unlimited miles and then flip it in 4 years and may come out a little ahead.
My total payments (72 mo) equals $42k, and after paying for 4 years ($28k) I'll owe $14k, and the car will be worth about $16k private party. And I may decide to keep it longer or pay it off early, just more flexibility.
Plus if you be buy you won't be responsible for acquisition fee or the dreaded lease turn in charges, which on my BMW came out to an additional $2500, including disposition fee, needed maintenance fee, tires replacement fee, and mileage overage fee.
But it could go either way.
#97
Originally Posted by TLTrance
518/mth for 60 months @ 6.99% - Down payment of $11500... I felt like I got screwed by this and I most likely would've gotten a better rate through a credit union, but I just got lazy.. I could refinance in 6-12 months, although interest rates are certainly going to get higher over this next year.
One thing is my credit score is nearly 800 (and yes, I do have a relatively long history.. close to 84 months), but the finance manager said: "You don't have a proven history of paying back non-student loans, hence this is about the best rate you'll see"
I sorta call BS on it, but really, there's nothing I can do to force any Acura dealership to go lower. I mean he told me the lowest anyone will get (at the time I bought the car) was 4.99% (though AHFC). This rate is only given to premium clients who have either purchased an Acura before, and/or a demonstrated non-student loan history paid reflected in conjunction with a good credit score.
I was hoping for 5.99% (reasonable expectation given what he said), and he said that he might be able to do this if I got the extended warranty. Of course, the result was I didn't get 5.99%. Duped? Maybe. I have the option of refunding the extended warranty if I don't ever use it.
What do you guys think?
One thing is my credit score is nearly 800 (and yes, I do have a relatively long history.. close to 84 months), but the finance manager said: "You don't have a proven history of paying back non-student loans, hence this is about the best rate you'll see"
I sorta call BS on it, but really, there's nothing I can do to force any Acura dealership to go lower. I mean he told me the lowest anyone will get (at the time I bought the car) was 4.99% (though AHFC). This rate is only given to premium clients who have either purchased an Acura before, and/or a demonstrated non-student loan history paid reflected in conjunction with a good credit score.
I was hoping for 5.99% (reasonable expectation given what he said), and he said that he might be able to do this if I got the extended warranty. Of course, the result was I didn't get 5.99%. Duped? Maybe. I have the option of refunding the extended warranty if I don't ever use it.
What do you guys think?
How do you have an credit score of 800 and not have an proven record of paying non-student loan history? I don't know where you got your credit score but that is impossible !! Crdit score depends on the length of your credit history and payment hisorty. The longer it is and more consitancy in on time payment the better it is. Additional bonuses are income to debt ratio, assests. Negatives are too many credit inquiries in a short period of time, constantly closing out credit account even if you do not owe money or paid it off. At 24 there is very little chance that you have a 800 score (credit score has a max of about 820 ie. Bill Gates) without a very extensive payment history and make a very high income. The maximum length of time that would have credit would be 6 years on your own. Someone is giving a load of crap and by the way you can rfinance anytime you want and pay off that high interest loan, check with the laws in your state. I usually get a low interest loan for the max length of time and pay it off in less in a year. It build my credit history and removes the debt off my history and keeps my credit score high.
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It won't if you sell it with only 35k miles. Buy 'em if you plan to keep 'em. Lease 'em if you want a new car every couple years. Why not keep the Benz at 35k miles? Why did you sell it?
I can't see where buying a new car would be worth it for me ever again.
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Originally Posted by fmzip
I can't see where buying a new car would be worth it for me ever again.
#99
Originally Posted by TBone2004
It won't if you sell it with only 35k miles. Buy 'em if you plan to keep 'em. Lease 'em if you want a new car every couple years. Why not keep the Benz at 35k miles? Why did you sell it? ![Huh](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/huh.gif)
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I'd rather have a permanent lease payment for 500-600/mo and put the difference in my pocket and invest it. Cars are nice but they are are losing proposition no matter how you slice it. I already have one nice car which is a 2001 BMW 330 convertible, thats all I need, and its paid for. Since I only use it as my summer/ weekend car, it's not the brightest idea to have a $30K tied up in my garage.
When people say, "buy if you are going to keep it" what does keep it really mean? I haven't "kept" any cars, have you? Eventually, you sell them. I don't know many people who keep their cars for more than 4-5 years on average. If I kept my Benz, it would have been an outlay of $70,000 over 5 years. If I lease at $600 per month, I will spend $36000 over the same time frame, getting me a new car every 2-3 years without the worry of maintainence.
The money that you have in your car, usually is rolled over into another one. If you actaully sold your vehicle and walked for the rest of your life, you'd have money. Otherwise your hard earned cash is tied up in a depreciating asset no matter how you slice it. It sort of baffles me when I hear people putting 10K down, paid for it in cash, when the money they are offering at 1.9-4.9% is so cheap to have. The wealthiest people on this planet know how to leverage their money. they know where to put their cash and it is never is something that depreciates.
To each their own, whatever makes a person comfortable is all that really matters.
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