How do you compare the build quality? Fit and finish? Paint quality and stuff. I'm debating buying a 04 TL, but I've been reading that it has so much quality issues.

Acura Logic
 

Drove the 01 RL for 40K - trying the 04 TL until the 05 RL shows it's new colors... Rumor has it that it's gonna be a screamer...

88' Pontia Grand-Am. Options included: rust, manual windows and locks, shorted-out AM-FM radio (one channel working), driver's window broken, rear-passenger door would not open all the way, etc, etc, etc.

Needless to say, this was a step-up for me.

I previously owned a 2000 Volvo C70 (Black/Black/with Black Top). Before that was a 1997 BMW M3 (totaled when hit by a drunk driver).

A 91 Buick Regal (which I bought new in May of 1990).

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The 55 was a great, fast car. I also had an older Accord EX to drive when I needed a 4-door. But I just got tired of not having a newer, nicer 4-door for clients. Other than pure HP and torque, the Benz had a few things the TL does not, Rain-sensing wipers, thick, thick, gorgiouspaint work, more supple leather, performance suspension. But it was also an $80K car when new (I bought it used). The TL has most of the things I need in a 4-door sedan (and then some). Really thought i would have gotten the new 5-series when it came out but the "cheapness plastic crap" from the 3-series has now encroached into the 5-line and it's simply not as good a car as the new TL. The Benz dealer did a LOT to try to keep me in a Merc but the $'s were simply too much for what I would have considered coparable to the TL (E500). In my mind the TL is as good as it gets right now for $35K fully loaded. With a few tweeks here or there, I can get it closer to a truer performance car (eibach suspension, CAI, headers, etc).

2002 Taurus SEL....

'96 accord DX with 190969miles.... only once timing belt changed.... and runs great so far!

i had an 02 tl-s non navi




04 tl deep green pearl 5at non navi
15% tint so far

2003 mitsubishi evolution 12.8 1/4 @110 awesome car. But sold for 25k and now on the hunt for 04 tl 6 speed navi. After the test drive i fell in love

Ahh well that makes sense. A friend of mine is trying to decide between 04 tl and a 04 a4. So I was just making sure the a4 didnt have any problems he should be aware of.

2000 Prelude

A really fun car! Handled like it was on rails. On the other hand, it had no low-end torque. Also, I wanted something more comfortable for my daily commute and something I could haul the kids around in.

I looked at the G35 sports coupe, but it did not seem any bigger than the prelude and the interior materials looked cheap. I also considered the BMW 330I but it was hard to justify the extra 7 grand.

I had a black on black 2001 Toyota Solara SLEV6 Convertible, with Auto Transmission
Modified with
TRD Supercharger
K&N Intake
TRD Body Kit
17" ICW Chrome 5-spoke wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport Tires

It may have been as fast as the 04 TL but would be close.
Was a lot noisier than the TL and not as graceful

Now have the NBP/Ebony auto w/out Nav... Seems the old Solara wheels will fit on the TL... We shall see.

Hi, I am new to the forum! I have a 93 Honda Accord Coupe, which was stolen this morning! Poor thing, it is running really well, and well maintained too! Well, i am in the market for a 04 TL Nav 6MT.... Any one can tell me where i should start looking? I am in Los Angeles, CA.

96 Saturn SL2

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04 TL NBP/Ebony/Non-navi

03 Maxima SE

I had an International gray Market
1997 Nissan Skyline rated at 642 HP at the rear wheels-all stock.


Just kidding.
1991 Mercedes 190E 2.6 w/47k miles
1988 5.0L Mustang Convertible 88k miles
1996 Heritage Softail Special (last year) 33k miles

I've still got (but not for long) a 2000 Audi S4 6 speed that is being replaced by my new Anthracite 6MT.

The Audi was a nice car and I'm sure as hell gonna miss it. While beastly fast (APR Stage 2), it was just too small. I was shopping the A6 but after comparing with the TL I realized I liked the TL more--especially given the relative bargain price compared to the A6 and 5 series Bimmer.

Of course I nearly got the new Pontiac GTO.............

they are very much different cars. the 6spd in the B6 A4 is very nice... (off the S4 i believe). All cars have early build issues, but the new A4's *should* be solid. You can have him check out the forums on www.audiworld.com.

Personally, i'd drove both and see which is better for him. When my lease ends, I'll keep an open mind when i return the car to my dealer. If they give me a great deal on a new A4, i'll have a tough decision to make. The A4 is definitely a nice car. make sure he is getting quattro and not Front Trak. Audi shouldn't sell front wheel drive cars IMHO. their bread and butter is quattro.

an A4 3.0 6spd, can get up there in price after it is optioned out (into the 40's) , but still less than BMW or MB. so the TL would still be the value play with all else equal

Wow, amazing array of cars that you guys have owned. I feel lucky that I've had the chance to drive a TLS as my first car. I'm hoping to get into an 04 TL 6mt or an 05 RL (the rumored AWD 400 hp beast). :)

1990 Chevrolet Beretta GTZ (high school and college car)
1997 Mitsibushi Eclipse GS-T (first car out of college)
2001 Saab 9-3 SE Convertible (second car out of college)

2004 Acura TL 6MT (take delivery Feb. 6)

1997 Jetta GLX VR6
2001 IS 300
2003 MDX

I had a 2002 Naples Gold TL-P

I had a 2001 Silver CL-S

Waiting for a 2004 TL Navi 6MT, SSM, Quartz
Current: 2003 TL-S, black, parchment Great car. Purchased in April 2002 as a 2003. Have 33,000 on it already. No issues.
B4 that, 1994 Accord EX Coupe, blk. 5-speed. Sold at 150,000 miles for $6,400. Never had any problems
B4 That: 1990 Mitsu Eclipse GS Turbo. Fun car with issues.
B4 that: 1988 Acura Integra. Great car too.
B4 that: High school and college cars, mostly american big 3 stuff and I'll leave it at that. Don't want to offend anyone here.

'00 Audi S4

Since someone asked earlier why to us Audi folks are moving on.... recently I had some scheduled maintenance done and was a bit shocked at how much non-warrantied service ran. Also I plan on moving pretty far from work relatively soon so the 10+ mpg increase with the Tl sounded good. Lastly, the Audi was just too small in the back - especially with a newborn on the way. I love my Audi but realized that I needed to be a bit more practical now. The TL 6 speed seemed like a reasonable compromise.

2003 MDX
1997 CL 2.2

going to trade in 02 Bmw325 soon.

How much did the service after warrenty cost you if you don't mind me asking? Was it just baasic service or something special that needed replacing.

1991 Accord EX, 5sp. Just sold it yesterday for $2500 with 153k miles. Everything still worked. Only left me stranded once in 12 years (coil went out). Spare never touched the ground.

2004 TL SSM/Quartz/5AT/Navi - Keeping until at least 2016
2002 CR-V - Wife's current ride
1993 Accord LX - Wife's prior ride
1991 Accord EX - See above
1987 Accord LX-i Hatchback - Traded in on '93
1984 Accord EX - Sold to buy '91

I ordered an AB/C 6MT w/o Navi that I pickup mid-March.

I have...

2001 Saturn L200 - Lease that goes back 4/15 (thank God!)
1999 Accord LX - wife's car
1989 Chevy S-10 - Errand runner / crappy weather
2001 Yamaha R1 - Track bike
2001 Kawasaki ZRX1200 - Street bike

I can't wait to dump this POS Saturn!

Don

'02 Audi A4 1.8t Quattro

'02 Audi A4 1.8t Quattro

don't laugh...

02 Toyota Avalon (old people car)

2003 Honda Accord Coupe 6 cyl.

Traded in my 2002 TL-S which was WDP w/parchment. Twelve previous cars (too many to list), but prior to that had the following Honda/Accura products. I'm definitely a Honda/Accura girl!

'98 White Accord Coupe
'97 Champagne Accord Special Edition
'92 White Accord Sedan
'88 White Accord Sedan

Do you see a pattern here? Champagne wasn't my color so that car was traded in quickly.

I'm not! I had one and that is why I was dead set that I was getting a SPORTS sedan. That Avalon was a marshmallow to drive!!

'01 BMW 530i with nav and voice activated phone

97 Chevy Malibu

32) 2004 Acura TL (Satin Silver)
31) 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP Comp G (White)
30) 2003 Cadillac CTS (Blue Onyz)
29) 2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP (Red)
28) 2001 Ford Escape XLT (Red)
27) 2000 Ford Focus ZX3 (Sangria Red)
26) 1999 Ford Taurus SHO (Silver)
25) 1999 Ford Mustang GT (Red)
24) 1998 Ford Explorer Sport (Red)
23) 1997 Ford Escort LX (Aquamarine)
22) 1996 Ford Taurus SHO (Silver)
21) 1996 Ford Taurus GL (Silver)
20) 1995 Ford Mustang GT (Sapphire Blue)
19) 1995 Ford Escort GT (Green)
18) 1993 Ford Taurus SHO (Silver)
17) 1992 Pontiac Cutlass Supreme S (Red)
16) 1990 Ford Thunderbird SC (Black)
15) 1988 Ford Thunderbird LX (Silver)
14) 1987 Ford Taurus LX (Silver)
13) 1986 Pontiac Fiero GT (Red)
12) 1985 Ford Tempo GLX (Gray)
11) 1985 GMC Safari Van (Blue)
10) 1984 Pontiac Firebird TransAm HO (Red)
9) 1984 Pontiac Indy Fiero Pace Car (White)
8) 1982 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Pace Car (Blue)
7) 1980 Chevrolet Citation (Blue)
6) 1979 Ford Mustang (Gray)
5) 1977 Ford Econoline Van 150 (Blue)
4) 1975 Ford Galaxie 500 (Red)
3) 1970 Ford Pinto (Blue)
2) 1970 Ford Mustang Fastback (Red)
1) 1965 Ford Mustang 2+2 (Blue)