tl_luvva

Wusssssup!!! New TL owner here

Got my new TL Monday nte---- auto/navi/anthracite+ A-SPEC! This ride is sweeeeet! I just got it tinted and was at school on Wed. when some wannabe poser in a modded IS starts giving me crap about FWD, tork steer-- whatever! He's got 4 of his friends with him and they start going off about how I couldn't even do donuts in the TL. The driver (who's a total tool) shows off his IS and does a couple of spins in the parking lot. i know its kinda hard to do donuts in a FWD but I've been to driving school and I know I have a lot more skills than you're average driver. so I floor the TL and get up to about 40 (i luv this engine!!!!) I lay on the e-break and the tail goes out and I get into a nice spin. I punch up the engine but there must have been something wrong with the accellerator 'cause the car didn't go straight and it clipped the back of some pice of crap pickup. I am so pissed!

so now the TL's got a small dent and scratch on the rear bumper. I am SOOOO peeved that the traction control obviously doesn't work but i still like the car. I don't want to tell my parents that the car is defective so I'm thinking of just getting the bumper fixed under warranty...do you guys think I should make the dealer fix the bumper or should i just return the car?

amarpawar

Umm...I think u had an accident and if anyone your insurance company should be the one fixing ur car...I am not sure if the dealer will take it back.

JDM5lugHatch

Ok first off welcome. Second I can't say you didn't deserve what happened because you did. You acted like a total asshat and a tool like you called the other guy. Next traction control did work that's why there was no power when you punched the gas. If you had turned it off you could have acted even dumber but actually had some control over the car. Traction control usually closes the throttle plate as well as brakes in order to get the car back under control.

flatfoot

If this is a real post, is this what we have come down to???? Posts like this make me crazy........

tl_luvva

ok, i KNOW that you'r thinking I'm some stupid high schooler but i KNOW how to drive and I've done tons of donuts in other cars. I know how to spin a car and I've driven cars with traction control and know how they work (my dad's 645). i think there's definitely something wrong with the traction control in my TL and if it had been working the TL woudn't have hit the truck. so I really think that the dealer should have to fix the bumper under warranty AND fix the traction control.

JDM5lugHatch

Traction control works a bit different in every vehicle and obviously per manufacturer. Plus you are talking about a RWD car vs. the FWD TL. Obviously they are going to handle differently. The TL has VSA and it cuts power no matter how hard you press that gas pedal and brakes at the same time. EVERY car is different in how they handle and drive. Just because you can do it in other cars doesn't mean your new TL will do it as well. There is nothing wrong with it. There however is something wrong with you I believe

Scribesoft

That was a bonehead thing to do ... and Acura shouldn't pay a dime to fix it. You may think you know how to drive, but you don't know how to make decisions.

You're not going to find any sympathy here.

Welcome to the TL club though. Just be smarter with it in the future.

TampaMike

Life's like a box of chocolates....

So is the point that the car should be wiser than the driver?

"Dear Acura,

Your car is stupid. It let me drive into a tree. Give me a new one."

tl_luvva

your missing my point!! there was nothing wrong with me doing donuts in the TL. i've done them MANY times before and I know how to do them safely. I did not drive the car into a tree! it's only because the traction control wasn't working right that the car hit the back of the truck. it's the same thing if the brakes didn't work? are you telling me that if my brakes failed I couldn't go to acura and tell them that they had to fix the car if it got wrecked?

TampaMike

I can only think of one person missing the point. Good luck with the Acura claim.

JDM5lugHatch

TLTrance

LMAO is the only response I'll give.

AMIC

I couldn't agree more. Doing donuts is not normal operation of the car. Acura is not going to fix your problem. I suggest you tell your parents and then file a claim with your insurance company if you can't afford to fix it out of your own pocket. You are one of the reasons that we have discussions around here about teenagers not deserving cars like the TL.

flatfoot

Please accept my apology. I am sorry. I thought you were driving the car, but apparantly someone else was driving your tl, because you said you did not drive the car into a tree. I would get the person who was driving your car, and contact either their parents, or their insurance company, and have the police fill out an affadavit, of the incident. Did the person who was driving the car, have your permission to do doughnuts in a parking lot, where they woulde be endangering other people as well as other peoples property. I would definately sue the person who drove your tl into a tree. You must be very pissed, I would be to. I think you need to talk some sense into who ever drove that car into a tree.

bluenose

Shouldn't be a problem. Just tell the dealer you were doing donuts, the traction control didn't work as expected and, as a result, you lost control and hit a pickup trunk. They'll gladly repair it under warranty.

Might be time to start having an intelligence test for joining this site!

flatfoot

Oh No. I hate tests. Will there be a study guide? Fill in, multiple choice, t or f, or essays? I prefer essays if possible. Easier to get around not knowing the answers.

tl_luvva

no, no, no. I was driving the car. The car hit a truck because the traction control didn't work. There was no tree!

I really don't want to tell my parents about the accident because they'll think that the TL is defective and they will sell it. I think it makes more sense for me just go take it back to the dealer and swap it out with another antacite TL that doesnt have a bad traction control system. I can just tell them that the traction control failed and caused me to hit something. i remember from a post a while ago that if it's been less than 3 days, they have to take the car back.

AMIC

Unfortunately I think it's your thought process that's defective and not the car. The dealership is not going to buy your line of BS. They will want to know what you did to make the traction control kick in. And your parents shouldn't be that stupid not to question how you got into an accident. Any sane parent of an 18 year old would know to question the actions of said 18 year old in the event of an accident before concluding the car is defective.

tejesh83

Ask the dealer and see how it goes. Just demo the traction control problem to the tech. Let us know the outcome.

TampaMike

Stop it! please!!! I CAN'T BREATH!!!

flatfoot

Bluenose, I think you might be right about intelligence test after this response to my post. Just doesnt get it.... This cant be real. No one can be this thick, unless hes like one of the hilton girls and their cohorts.

joed40

Not for nothing, and if this post, on the slimest of chancers may be real. But are you kidding????!!! No dealer is going to swap out any car for that story. You had an accident, your fault, chaulk it up to stupidty and testosterone. As far as not telling your parents because they might think the car is defective. Your 18, an adult, don't go to your parents, don't go to us, your insurance agent is your next adult choice.

Scribesoft

NO, No, No... YOU HIT THE TRUCK BECAUSE YOU WERE BEING AN IDIOT!!! Not because of faulty traction control!!

I will agree with you on this: There was probably no tree

Scribesoft

No One? Have you read the "200 MPH TL" thread? That's a winner..

JDM5lugHatch

I couldn't have said it better myself. I think he lacks something called reading comprehension as well.

cjhurtado2

can someboby tell me if you can really do donuts on a TL using the e-brake?

joed40

According to the owners manual. Donuts can only be performed with the A-spec emblem in place on the trunk lid.

invincible569

bro, you got them beat by doing wheelies in reverse! Try it out!

mickey3c

well this is how the forum has changed... so much dum crap...

and if it is true... it goes to show you that having some money does not mean the person has any brains...

cmt1

Yes, but you need to hold the brake, hit the gas, pay the girl at krispy kreme, and stuff the donut in to your mouth... all at the same time w/ the VSA turned off...

tl-s4now

this can't possibly be real

tl_luvva

Ok, I tried calling my insurance guy like you guys suggested but he said I would have to pay a $500 "deductible" and that he would have to tell my parents if I wanted to make a claim. I don't want to do that so I think I'm just going to take the car back to the dealer and have them swap it out with a new one. I drove by there yesterday and saw a couple of anthracites so I don't think it will be a problem.

03CoupeV6

This has to be a joke. It simply can't be real.

If it is though, the kid's the defective product and they should sell him.



This is embarrassing to decent, intelligent 18-year-olds, though. They ARE out there. I can't believe this thread. Please, mods, ban him.

JDM5lugHatch

Are you serious. I guess you are that dumb. Just curious which dealership did you buy it from in the first place? Obviously you aren't getting the point here.

nycACURA

Good luck man. Acura doesn't fix legitimate claims.....ie. leather issues, rattles,etc. I doubt tehy swap your car for another one. but good luck. let us know how it goes.

Iceman23

I've been laughing out loud for the last 5 minutes... people around my office gathered around and started reading, now everyone is rolling.. this is TOO funny.. I would have given anything to have been there.. especially to see the faces of those kids in the IS when your TL magically bumped into a truck (which probably had no business being there)

TLTrance

Trade? The hell? They won't do that unless there's a legitimate problem, which in this case, there is not.

03CoupeV6

There IS a legitimate problem, but it isn't with the car.

invincible569

LOL. if it has your parents name on the insurance, then the title is on their name too. they would have to sign the papers to change VIN numbers and all. Its not your local gameboy shop where you can make an exchange. Put on your football gear before you tell your parents. Good luck bro and give us the hospital address you will be staying at so we can send some get well balloons and flowers.

mbwmn

u should absolutely go back to the dealer. i would go right to the Svc Dpt mngr or General mngr and duplicate the spin for him on a test drive. if the traction control problem happens again thenn the dealer personel will be able to fully verify the problem. the Acura factory will pay for repairs to whatever other cars might be involved after the dealer personel verifies the traction control problem.

if you can't duplicate it w/ them in your car, ask if you can try one of thir demos.

if this doesn't work, i would set up an appt w/ your insurance co.s inspector, and duplicate the problem for them. the insurance co. will most certainly authorize replacement of your obviously defective TL, and then bill Acura.

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