Btros

When I bought my TL about a month ago and had it inspected at the Acura dealer, brakes were fine, no shimmying when braking at highway speeds. About two weeks ago I noticed a nail in one of the front tires and brought it to Goodyear to have it removed because the tires were under warranty.

This past weekend, on a road trip up in the mountains, heavy, significant shaking/shimmying while braking at highway speed. Could Goodyear have caused this by not tightening the lugs to the correct specs? If so, do I have any recourse? Can I call them and ask them to pay for the warped rotors? I doubt it since I can't conclusively prove that it was their fault, but I thought I'd ask. What would you do?

Any advice is appreciated.

SharksBreath

iTrader: (33)

^that sucks and yes it's entirely possible for the rotors to become warped if they tightened the lugs on too much.

you can take a shot and hope for some recourse but i would not get your hopes up because like you said, it's not like you can prove they're at fault for it.

Azndjay

going to be hard to prove since you left there parking lot.

lusid

Short answer - Yes. They impact everything on at those shops.

ez12a

yep. If I ever have to go to a shop like that i watch everything they do.

it's a pet peeve of mine when i see them impact it on and then use a torque wrench to check...it defeats the purpose of the torque wrench if it's over tightened.

Btros

ugh...that's what I thought. Thanks for the input guys. Guess I learned my lesson...a $300 lesson...

Excelerate

iTrader: (1)

The factory rotors are prone to distortion. It is possible that if they over-tightened the lug nuts they caused the rotors to distort/"warp". If you replace the front rotors and pads I would recommend upgrading to a rotor that is less prone to distortion like the Powerslot slotted rotor. If you want better performance the STOPTECH Performance pad is a good option.

If you need pricing or links let me know. Or you can check our website in the sig below.

LoveMyTL-S

Perhaps it's time for some nice drilled and slotted rotors to sport things up a bit??

LoveMyTL-S

Ops! Excelerate beat me to it.........

Btros

It's tempting to upgrade but I'm on a tight budget right now, so just looking for the most affordable way to get things straight for a road trip I'm about to take.

mY sLOW UA6

^Brakemotive has a kit for all 4 rotors/pads I paid 200 and I have Brembos.

mb1976

That is why I don't even like taking it to tire places cause they work on so many makes and model cars that even they make mistakes on balancing tires properly

DMZ

You have to watch whomever works on your car like a hawk when you go to these tire shops. I always make sure they use a torque stop when they use the impact wrench to put the lug nuts on. They must be tightened to 80 ft-lbs.
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nj2pa2nc

when there was a nail in one of my tires, the tire place plugged the tire without removing it. They did a excellent job-has held the air for over a year.

Turbonut

iTrader: (1)

Although it might serve the purpose, that's not the proper way to repair a tire as any tire repair should be done after the tire is removed from the wheel.

To the OP, it's possible in that a wheel that is not torqued properly can cause the rotor to not turn true and pad buildup can occur, but if you experienced heavy brake use in the mountains, that can cause pad transfer also, so no guarantee that is was an inproperly installed wheel.

If the wheel hasn't been touched since the install, check the lug nuts with a torque wrench with someone present to verify the readings and go from there, but even if it were found to be incorrect, it would be a difficult claim to prove as GY's stance would be someone else did an install in the time period that has elapsed. Guess it comes down to your word against theirs.

YeuEmMaiMai

I did the same plug thing on my vino 125 rear tire and it held up for 1000's of miles afterwards. I did replace the tire when I did my front one though

Turbonut

iTrader: (1)

Just because you did the repair in the same manner, doesn't make it the proper way to repair a tire puncture this day and age. People have used plugs in the sidewall to repair a tire, doesn't make it right, but it works for them.

djdonte

Honda factory rotors warp easily. Nearly every Honda/Acura I've dealt with had warped rotors even if only a bit. Im talking cars with less than 100K driven by older people. On my buddies CR-V it was the same price nearly to buy new rotors. Mine warped at about 55K. I cut them down and havent had a problem yet but if it happens again I am replacing them.

Btros

Yeah, I already had them resurfaced and put on new brake pads. If/when it happens again, I'll get some decent aftermarket rotors.

YeuEmMaiMai

i was just pointing out that the repair is more sturdy than what you make it out to be...... a vino rides on tiny tires inflated to about 40 psi....

The correct way would be to outright replace the tire or patch it from the inside but on a small scooter like that, the repair would cost more than the tire by the time you got it dismounted repaired and remounted so the $3 plug worked just fine......

Turbonut

iTrader: (1)

Sorry 'about that as I didn't know what a vino 125 might be, thought maybe a tire I never heard of, and I've also used just the plugs on equipment I need for the property with success as they have no inner liner or steel belts that can rust.

nj2pa2nc

If the nail had been in the sidewall or to close to the edge the tiré place would not fix it. When we lived in Pa they use d plugs and many places in Nc use patches. The tiré place we went to has been around many years and was recommended to us.

Turbonut

iTrader: (1)

Not familiar with a "d" plug, but just to be clear, they should use a plug/patch to do the repair. It's not either or, it's a plug patch.

http://www.fixtires.com/proddetail.php?prod=WW3
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=77

nj2pa2nc

Oops should have proof read. The d should not be there. Never had any problems with a plugged tiré. If the tiré was driven on when completely flat the majority of places do not want to repair them.