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Old 08-18-2005, 07:00 PM
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VSA effect speed?

sup guys..just got my 05 TL 6 M/T about a month ago..have a question however. Does having VSA on or off effect your acceleration or anything that has to do with the TL's speed? thnx
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Yeah I believe it'll cut the throttle under hard acceleration if it detects the tires slipping.
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on my 04 auto I can honestly see a difference - most magazines will turn it off when they do testing.

The one downside is that you can't completely defeat it. I can completely shut off the safety nanny on my G35 by holding the switch down for 5-7 seconds.
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Originally Posted by Vtec_TL
sup guys..just got my 05 TL 6 M/T about a month ago..have a question however. Does having VSA on or off effect your acceleration or anything that has to do with the TL's speed? thnx


On my 04 6MT I can honestly see a difference, I turned VSA "OFF" each time when I start car. ("ON") only on fresh snow.
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lol nice....alright thnx for the replies guys. i'll posting alot more on this site..see yall around =D
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Originally Posted by lindros2
The one downside is that you can't completely defeat it. I can completely shut off the safety nanny on my G35 by holding the switch down for 5-7 seconds.
how so? pressing the VSA off button turns it completely off, don't it?
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Originally Posted by massr1
how so? pressing the VSA off button turns it completely off, don't it?
Yes it turns off completely, but it resets itself every time you turn off the ignition, so the next time you start the car, it is on by default, and you have to turn it off again if you don't want to use it.

I think lindros2 means he can turn it off so that it doesn't ever come on again unless he wants it to.
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On my 04 6MT I can honestly see a difference, I turned VSA "OFF" each time when I start car. ("ON") only on fresh snow.
Why would you want to turn off VSA every time.....thats compromising safety
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FYI for all you hard drivers, VSA does not function after 52 mph.
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Originally Posted by lindros2
on my 04 auto I can honestly see a difference - most magazines will turn it off when they do testing.

The one downside is that you can't completely defeat it. I can completely shut off the safety nanny on my G35 by holding the switch down for 5-7 seconds.

If I'm not mistaken. The VSA on a G turns back on automatically if it detects the wheels slipping even after you disable it. I heard this from a guy that has a 2004 G Coupe
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Originally Posted by ender001
FYI for all you hard drivers, VSA does not function after 52 mph.
Can you give a link or reference to where you found this please. I couldn't find anything in the owner's manual or the service manual that says this, but I could have missed it.
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Originally Posted by RSA_Secure
Why would you want to turn off VSA every time.....thats compromising safety
Safety, shmafety.

You can't truly drive when there's a computer nanny watching over your every move going "no, no, I don't think so."
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Originally Posted by RSA_Secure
Why would you want to turn off VSA every time.....thats compromising safety
how did your parents or their parents ever drive then? i don't think there was VSA back in the old days
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I wonder how long it will be before we see the first lawsuits and/or criminal charges brought because someone turned off their VSA and had an accident?
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Originally Posted by RSA_Secure
Why would you want to turn off VSA every time.....thats compromising safety

Cause I like to drive a car, not a friking computer. And my driving expiriens much more then yours age.
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Originally Posted by RSA_Secure
Why would you want to turn off VSA every time.....thats compromising safety
Not if you are a top notch driver, it doesn't. For the majority of folks on a Forum like this, you are quite right.

There are times when inducing a drift from wheelspin can be a safety asset. This is much more common in a rear-driver - it is called power or throttle oversteer.
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Originally Posted by rbf351
how did your parents or their parents ever drive then? i don't think there was VSA back in the old days
right....they didnt have airbags either

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With the VSA off, I find that the car is rolling with less resistance, and find that I get a slightly better gas mileage.
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I never heard of 52MPH thing but it would be nice to know if there is a limit
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The 2005 Mustang GT...

The "Traction-Control' on the 2005 Mustang GT can be disabled via a button, however the EEC still has control over the throttle-by-wire. It will close the throttle if you are making smokies.

I know my 2005 TL (5AT) will spin the tire briefly before the VSA kicks in (been there done that...oops) and reduces engine power and/or applies the brakes.

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Originally Posted by power-fade
With the VSA off, I find that the car is rolling with less resistance, and find that I get a slightly better gas mileage.
I looked at the schematic and the system overview and description details, and can find absolutely no reason this would be the case. Placebo effect?
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Originally Posted by ender001
FYI for all you hard drivers, VSA does not function after 52 mph.
You may be right, but can you cite any suppporting documentation?....Looking at the shop manual's electrical circuit schematic of the VSA system, it does not show any reference to checking speed to disable the system. It just points into the ECM. Logically, disabling at speeds over 52 is counter-intuitive- the higher the speed, the more VSA would be helpful, no?

I think you may be confusing the VSA with TC) - I believe TC disables after about 25 mph because of the risk of overheating the brakes, and possibly leading to an unstable handling situation.

Don't quote me, but from memory i recall the TC system disables after 25 mph - 25/52 are easily reversed, is that a coincidence, or does it add credence to my theory of getting things a bit crossed-up?
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Originally Posted by RSA_Secure
right....they didnt have airbags either

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You obviously are not a skilled enough driver to feel safe with the VSA off.
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