TL in Japan?
#1
TL in Japan?
Was just browsing the Honda Japan website, and was looking for the Japanese version of the TL. The Honda Japan lineup (http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/) is different than the North American (NA) market.
It looks like the Accord in Japan is the TSX in NA (http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/accord/).
The Integra in Japan is the RSX in NA (http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/integra/).
The Legend in Japan is the RL in NA (http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/legend/).
Does anyone know if the TL is sold in Japan? Someone posted that the Inspire (http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/inspire/) is the Japanese TL, but it doesn't look like it. Does that mean that the 2006 TL will be based on the Japanese Inspire??
It looks like the Accord in Japan is the TSX in NA (http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/accord/).
The Integra in Japan is the RSX in NA (http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/integra/).
The Legend in Japan is the RL in NA (http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/legend/).
Does anyone know if the TL is sold in Japan? Someone posted that the Inspire (http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/inspire/) is the Japanese TL, but it doesn't look like it. Does that mean that the 2006 TL will be based on the Japanese Inspire??
#5
Originally Posted by reigai
Does anyone know if the TL is sold in Japan? Someone posted that the Inspire (http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/inspire/) is the Japanese TL, but it doesn't look like it. Does that mean that the 2006 TL will be based on the Japanese Inspire??
Sorry, the old TL of 03 was this... http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/saber/2003/
http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/s...003/photo_lib/
#6
Originally Posted by reigai
Does anyone know if the TL is sold in Japan? Someone posted that the Inspire (http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/inspire/) is the Japanese TL, but it doesn't look like it. Does that mean that the 2006 TL will be based on the Japanese Inspire??
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#13
notice that the honda version of the TL have fogs down below.
http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/accord/
http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/accord/
#16
Originally Posted by need4spd
Yep, because the Japanese market would not put up with the poor quality on the 3rd gen TL!
#18
Originally Posted by EluSiOn
Inspire is different from US accord. Inspire uses DOHC engine and also it is first Honda V6 engine that uses i-Vtec.
Honda Inspire
That said, I can see where you'd make the iVTEC-DOHC correlation seeing as previous iterations of iVTEC were only in DOHC models (RSX-TSX). The new Odyssey has an SOHC iVTEC motor so the Accord and maybe TL will soon follow ( for certain); that should be good for a marginal increase in current HP levels.
#22
Originally Posted by need4spd
Nope, just telling the truth, Acura took mine back, what does that tell you?
The factories with the best quality ratings still produce lemons from time to time, and as long as human beings are involved, 100% perfection all of the time is simply not possible. Besides, there are bound to be more bugs than average in a car being sold in its first year, which is why lots of auto writers and experts warn people to stay away from a new model until it's been on the market at least a year.
Honda's Ohio factory is so well regarded that some of their output is shipped to Japan, a country that values high-quality manufactured goods a lot more than we do in the States. That should tell you something.
#23
Originally Posted by need4spd
No baloney, check your pm
I gauge a car by its engines - and Honda's are the best. How many engine failures are people squawking about here? A handful at most - I would much rather have an engine with ballz and guts (I know the tolerances Honda specs for its suppliers - they are often 4X tighter than others, such as bearings) and a few sagging butt prints and a buzz here and there.
Everyone, stop you whining!
End of rant!
#24
Originally Posted by mio
There is no acura in Japan, right???
is Acura only for North America?
is Acura only for North America?
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ACURA = HONDA
INFINITY = NISSAN
LEXUS = TOYOTA
VOLVO, JAGUAR = FORD
These US brands are for giving a little more prestige and quality to the brand.
they are supposed to treat you better at the dealerships, and complete with higher end brands...
#25
Originally Posted by EluSiOn
Inspire is different from US accord. Inspire uses DOHC engine and also it is first Honda V6 engine that uses i-Vtec.
Originally Posted by F23A4
AFAIK, the JDM Inspire uses the same SOHC J30 that the USDM Accord V6 uses. Only its rated at 250hp and has VCM.
Honda Inspire
That said, I can see where you'd make the iVTEC-DOHC correlation seeing as previous iterations of iVTEC were only in DOHC models (RSX-TSX). The new Odyssey has an SOHC iVTEC motor so the Accord and maybe TL will soon follow ( for certain); that should be good for a marginal increase in current HP levels.
Honda Inspire
That said, I can see where you'd make the iVTEC-DOHC correlation seeing as previous iterations of iVTEC were only in DOHC models (RSX-TSX). The new Odyssey has an SOHC iVTEC motor so the Accord and maybe TL will soon follow ( for certain); that should be good for a marginal increase in current HP levels.
#26
Originally Posted by nick04tl
i heard that japan will have our tl in 2006.
#27
Originally Posted by da_illist_onE
That's what I thought. So which one is it?
The 7G AV6 and current Inspire both have SOHC V6, with the JDM version having a couple of added features (VCM and iVTEC being the main difference). The new Accord Hybrid will also have VCM and iVTEC, in addition to IMA. (255hp all told)
Peace.
#28
Originally Posted by NOX 3.2
US - Other Countries
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ACURA = HONDA
INFINITY = NISSAN
LEXUS = TOYOTA
VOLVO, JAGUAR = FORD
These US brands are for giving a little more prestige and quality to the brand.
they are supposed to treat you better at the dealerships, and complete with higher end brands...
----------------------------------
ACURA = HONDA
INFINITY = NISSAN
LEXUS = TOYOTA
VOLVO, JAGUAR = FORD
These US brands are for giving a little more prestige and quality to the brand.
they are supposed to treat you better at the dealerships, and complete with higher end brands...
Don't know the exact details, but re-branding also helps them get around some US Trade laws on imported auto's.
#29
Originally Posted by F23A4
AFAIK, the JDM Inspire uses the same SOHC J30 that the USDM Accord V6 uses. Only its rated at 250hp and has VCM.
Honda Inspire
That said, I can see where you'd make the iVTEC-DOHC correlation seeing as previous iterations of iVTEC were only in DOHC models (RSX-TSX). The new Odyssey has an SOHC iVTEC motor so the Accord and maybe TL will soon follow ( for certain); that should be good for a marginal increase in current HP levels.
Honda Inspire
That said, I can see where you'd make the iVTEC-DOHC correlation seeing as previous iterations of iVTEC were only in DOHC models (RSX-TSX). The new Odyssey has an SOHC iVTEC motor so the Accord and maybe TL will soon follow ( for certain); that should be good for a marginal increase in current HP levels.
http://www.honda.co.jp/news/2003/4030618-inspire.html
http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/i...ism/index.html
#30
Originally Posted by EluSiOn
you can check the info on honda.jp website.
http://www.honda.co.jp/news/2003/4030618-inspire.html
http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/i...ism/index.html
http://www.honda.co.jp/news/2003/4030618-inspire.html
http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/i...ism/index.html
And the 'DOHC' reference is where?
Trust me, if the Inspire's J30A were DOHC, it'd have plenty more than 250hp (which the USDM AV6 can get on premium fuel).
#31
Originally Posted by F23A4
And the 'DOHC' reference is where?
Trust me, if the Inspire's J30A were DOHC, it'd have plenty more than 250hp (which the USDM AV6 can get on premium fuel).
Trust me, if the Inspire's J30A were DOHC, it'd have plenty more than 250hp (which the USDM AV6 can get on premium fuel).
#32
Originally Posted by Road Rage
Baloney - the Acura plant in Marysville has consistently rated at the top of Honda plants worldwide, with lower defects per 100 cars than many Asian plants. Are you implying that they did something in the transition to the 2004 to change that? Back it up. Just for the anecdotals, I owned 2000, 2001 and 2002 Gen2's, and find the 2004 as good if not better, especially my paint.
#33
Originally Posted by iNteGraz92
the inspire engine is SOHC and the i in i-vtec indicates VCM. it is not the same thing as i-vtec on the k series engines.
VTEC Implementation on the Accord Engines
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#35
Originally Posted by 123456SPEED
Acura is sold in US, Canada, and I think Hong Kong. Interesting that Toyota now markets the Lexus in Japan for the first time.
I'm currently in Taiwan on the last leg of my business trip. It appears Lexus and Infiniti are here as well, as I have seen quite a few of them. (Mostly Lexii though). I also read some documentation, that Honda started selling the USDM Accord here in Taiwan back in April. Those USDM accords are pretty popular here. Suprisingly, I haven't seen a single TSX/JDM Accord in Shanghai, Seoul, or Taipei on this business trip, but I have seen USDM Accords in all those countires. I even saw a Daewoo Arcadia (Acura Legend), rebadged with Acura badges, but I don't think Honda officially sells Acura in Korea.
#36
avs007, the Lexus and Infiniti have always been in Taiwan I believe. I seen them when I visited there in 1997.
With all the talk about what TL is really called in Japan, just curious... has anyone actually been to japan?
With all the talk about what TL is really called in Japan, just curious... has anyone actually been to japan?
#37
Man, you woke up the old thread...
You don't have to really be there to witness what models are on sale and what not. Go to google them or visit websites... that tells all...
Don't downplay or underestimate other countries' situations... For example, Lexus sites said Lexus starts to set up the dealership and sell cars in Korea (prolly '00), China (prolly '03), Taiwan (prolly '97), Singapore (prolly '01), etc. But, some of them had imported them in the early '90.
PS. I'm not saying you or avs or others made mistakes.
You don't have to really be there to witness what models are on sale and what not. Go to google them or visit websites... that tells all...
Don't downplay or underestimate other countries' situations... For example, Lexus sites said Lexus starts to set up the dealership and sell cars in Korea (prolly '00), China (prolly '03), Taiwan (prolly '97), Singapore (prolly '01), etc. But, some of them had imported them in the early '90.
PS. I'm not saying you or avs or others made mistakes.
#38
Originally Posted by traidsganster
avs007, the Lexus and Infiniti have always been in Taiwan I believe. I seen them when I visited there in 1997.
With all the talk about what TL is really called in Japan, just curious... has anyone actually been to japan?
With all the talk about what TL is really called in Japan, just curious... has anyone actually been to japan?
Anyway, I just returned from Japan this week. No TLs in Japan. But there are a lot of great Toyotas there that aren't imported to the US. Only saw a few Lexuses. My friend works at Nissan, who told me that there are no Infinitis in Japan (incl the FX).
#39
Right, prolly no FX... ?
Originally Posted by reigai
yea, talk about reviving an old thread...
Anyway, I just returned from Japan this week. No TLs in Japan. But there are a lot of great Toyotas there that aren't imported to the US. Only saw a few Lexuses. My friend works at Nissan, who told me that there are no Infinitis in Japan (incl the FX).
Anyway, I just returned from Japan this week. No TLs in Japan. But there are a lot of great Toyotas there that aren't imported to the US. Only saw a few Lexuses. My friend works at Nissan, who told me that there are no Infinitis in Japan (incl the FX).
G = Skyline
Q = Cima?
M = Fuga
FX = prolly "no"...
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