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EL 42s ??

rets

Ppl said their new cars have 0604 EL42s. I saw 0704 last week. Others got the EL42s replaced, they are 0804.

Wish they're all new design EL42s.

:o

Ted Johnson

FWIW, I got a new TL this week and the tires are 07/04 ie 7th week of 04. Given that people with late 03 ELs are not having vibration problems, I am pretty confident that the latest vehicles are shipping with the latest version of the tires.

I hope this helps!

<TED>

zeezz

just got my car, 0804 tires, no vibrations so far (willl do a 2 hr drive tomorrow and report back)

Sherlock

Now that I have lost all faith in Honda, I find it amazing that while they are shipping a new version of the tire, they continue to deny the problem to those of us who bring it in and report it. Seems a little odd. But hell, that's life in greed.

smoore

My tires are 0304 and I took delivery of my car last week but it has been in the dealers hands since early March. I have not had any vibration or flatspotting. The treadwear rating is 260 which I gather is a significant improvement over the 140 rating for the original OEM tires.

Novice

Sherlock:
You have a very good point. If Acura used such good tires, why the hell did they ask Bridgestone to reformulate their EL42s? This is confirmation that they are guilty.

Norse396

The new EL's ride better and quieter but suffer from the exact same flat spot problem the original tires did.

narnia

It's been in the 30s here and so far I haven't noticed any flatspotting. Is this something I'd have right away on a new car?

marquis

Isn't the issue there with your dealer and not with Honda directly?

Wildcat Jon

I just got the replacements yesterday. Seemed to be no flatspotting this morning and ride seems to be a tiny bit softer (and better) - could be my imagination. They are definitely "recompounded" EL 42s. Service Mgr. said ALL new TLs have the new tires.

rets

Actually, I got the similar answers from my stupid dealer...

Mrike

Norse, can you elaborate? Do you have the new tires? Are you personally experiencing flat spotting?

M.

rets

I think ppl just like to find out how "new" EL42s will have less problems. We know tires after 0704 would be good. How's about tires between 0104 and 0604? They could be good... 4603-5203, may be ok?

Acura doesn't want to disclose the news to us, when did Bridgestone start to produce the new design EL42 tires?

Lore

I felt that my tires were "softer" too -- even though the air pressure in them were slightly (2psi) higher than normal so I would have expected a firmer/stiffer ride, but no such deal. I'm experiencing tingling sensation in my hands when I drive above 70 mph -- but it's not a full on vibration -- so I'm not sure what that is. Do you guys have that problem at all with you cars (even if you've never changed your tires?)

huskerfan

Original EL 42's for the TL were rated at 260. The 140 number came from Tirerack on EL 42's that were for other cars and not specifically made for the TL. People keep quoting the 140 number because early research on the EL 42's done from Tirerack before the EL 42's for the TL were even out.

Ron A

I looked at my new EL42's, and I think you can use the DOT code to determine which tires are new. These are the codes:
New: 0B6N TU2 Old: 0B6N PVC

Tirerack told me that any changes must be recertified with the DOT, so they would then get a new DOT number. Not positive, but this should be the way to tell.

If someone has the new code and a build date before 0804, let us know and we can use that to determine the earliest build date for the new tires.

zeezz

hi guys, on my two hour round-trip drive, i tried varying the RPMS up and down, tried speeds from 40-65, no vibration.

and crazy, this car feels so smooth that when i'm going 90 it feels like 60.

Hawkeye13

As a new member to the forum, I'm surprised by the issued raised with the tires. I bought my TL (my second, first was 2001) in November 03, and have 9000 mile already. Generally pushing 80+mph and have not experienced any vibrations as described. My DOT code is PVC abd the mfg. date is 4003. Is this across the board? I don't think I'd have missed it based on the descriptions posted.

Ron A

Not everyone experiences the problem. Even people who know about the problem from reading this forum, and looking for it, don't feel the vibration. This is why Acura didn't make a recall or even a real TSB on this issue, and it is done on a selective basis for those who complain (loud enough).

It could be that certain batches cause the problem, or maybe a different assembly line, different molds, different mixing, etc, so if you don't have a problem consider yourself fortunate.

NSX_SB

I bought my TL in October 2003 and didn't notice the problem until about 2500 miles.

I contacted Acura three times and they finally agreed to evaluate my tire issue at the local (Ventura, CA) Acura dealer.

As I was just about to drive down for the evaluation, my salesman called and said to hold off. He may be able to save me one of the two requisite trips. Also, he was going to try to get Acura to replace the tires with my choice -- the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S tires. I also found a highly rated Bridgestone tire, the Potenza RE950.

In the last few days, I talked with the Gold Coast Acura service advisor who said my replacement tires are due any day. I reitereated my concern about having the same tires put back on the car and he said Acura wouldn't supply anything but newer EL42s.

I asked if I could just take the new tires (without installation) and try to trade them in on the Michelins. He kindly suggested that he would look around to see if he could work a deal with the tire dealers around Ventura.

I am waiting to see what he can work out.

- Russ in Santa Barbara

NSX_SB

I bought my TL in October 2003 and didn't notice the problem until about 2500 miles.

I contacted Acura three times and they finally agreed to evaluate my tire issue at the local (Ventura, CA) Acura dealer.

As I was just about to drive down for the evaluation, my salesman called and said to hold off. He may be able to save me one of the two requisite trips. Also, he was going to try to get Acura to replace the tires with my choice -- the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S tires. I also found a highly rated Bridgestone tire, the Potenza RE950.

In the last few days, I talked with the Gold Coast Acura service advisor who said my replacement tires are due any day. I reitereated my concern about having the same tires put back on the car and he said Acura wouldn't supply anything but newer EL42s.

I asked if I could just take the new tires (without installation) and try to trade them in on the Michelins. He kindly suggested that he would look around to see if he could work a deal with the tire dealers around Ventura.

I am waiting to see what he can work out.

- Russ in Santa Barbara