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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 05:53 PM
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Are these illegal

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Hi I live in NY in Westchester county and i was wondering if i get these put in will i be pulled over for them being illegal. These are the work of bruce.
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 05:57 PM
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shot in the dark (literally).

most states require you to have some sort of reflective red lense...I don't see that on those tails so you might get hassled about it.
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 05:59 PM
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Yes they are illegal. Federal law (FMVSS.108) states there must be a red reflective surface visible from the sides and rear of the vehicle.

There must also be an amber surface visible from the sides of the front.
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 06:01 PM
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so the cleared out headlights are illegal is what i gather from your post
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 06:05 PM
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[quote=SilverSVT;13869961]Yes they are illegal. Federal law (FMVSS.108) states there must be a red reflective surface visible from the sides and rear of the vehicle.

yup I've been pulled over for these when i was in the city
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 06:08 PM
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I'm from SC and have similar tails. I have had no problems :knocksonwood:
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 06:09 PM
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Yes they are illegal. Federal law (FMVSS.108) states there must be a red reflective surface visible from the sides and rear of the vehicle.

yup I've been pulled over for these when i was in the city
what have you been pulled over for your tails or headlights?
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 06:26 PM
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taillights. They told me i need either red/amber reflective blinkers.
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 06:33 PM
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Don't really matter in ny they don't bother with that stuff...tinted windows and colored headlights is what they go for all the time
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 06:44 PM
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So would you get the taillights i posted and hope i don't get caught or would you just get them smoked a little and be done with it.
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 07:13 PM
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No "Is this illegal" thread is complete without some guy saying "I've never gotten pulled over and my tails are illegal".
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 07:47 PM
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Leave your lights on! problem solved.
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 07:48 PM
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Wait, so cleared taillights are illegal? I've seen people with those, but didn't think they were illegal. Also, anyone know how bad the penalty is?
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 08:11 PM
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Almost any modification to a vehicle is illegal, especially in NY.

Seriously.
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ZOMGVTEK
Almost any modification to a vehicle is illegal, especially in NY.

Seriously.
Well, hopefully this doesn't apply to NJ as well.
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 08:37 PM
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Well, hopefully this doesn't apply to NJ as well.
NJ is worse lol
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Sotiris
NJ is worse lol
Now I REALLY need to move my ass to Cali.
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 08:48 PM
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Cali is just as bad. You can't run!
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 08:57 PM
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in ny there illegal too i remember i had smoked taillights on my si got a ticket from a state trooper that was an expensive ticket cost me more then the actual lights

Federal law (FMVSS.108) states there must be a red reflective surface visible from the sides and rear of the vehicle.

just put red tape on it problem solved lol
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 09:18 PM
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So these are illegal? Cause this was to be my first mod when I get my WDP TL.
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 09:18 PM
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OP If you'd like, send your OEM tails to Ack and he can smoke them but leave the blinker part of it red.

Similar to this but the white can be smoked.



And here is the thread to go to if you're interested.

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/custom-tail-lights-head-lights-acktl05-759299/
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 10:13 PM
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I am in westchester and have no problems with those tails (have the same ones) and I have my headlights cleared (no problems).
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 10:17 PM
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Well shit-here are mine. I guess if I get pulled over, I'll say, "I bought the car this way", or something......



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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 10:21 PM
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I have not altered any of my lighting, but I work in the industry.

Yes there are always people that have it done that could get away with it all day. But there are also those that get pulled over repeatedly. If you pay close attention to all cars on the road, they all have a clear reflector. Look at say a 2008 3-Series Bimmer, they don't have any amber in the headlights, but have a separate amber reflector right in front of the front wheel.

Just like window tint. I knew the law, went darker and paid the price 2 times before i got it fixed on my old car. I learned my lesson and went legal on this car.

If you can pay to play do it, but don't gripe about it when you get pulled over for it or it is an add on to a speeding ticket or otherwise.
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Steven Bell
Well shit-here are mine. I guess if I get pulled over, I'll say, "I bought the car this way", or something......



Sorry Steven, you already had them done before I could warn you. They look good, don't get me wrong
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 12:41 AM
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Most cops won't bother you. Usually they don't care if you have custom ones. They will sometimes ticket you if you put a crap load of tint over them, but they usually won't care if you aren't d-bag. But over-tinted taillights look like crap anyway.
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 01:54 AM
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Cali is just as bad. You can't run!


but at least we don't have inspections
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 07:31 AM
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Cars are required to have red reflector on the rear that can be seen from the side and also just like the front needs to have an orange reflector that can be seen from the side.
Now these rules don't mean that have to be on the headlight a lot of BMW have the reflector as part of the bumper and the newer mustangs have Blacked out tail lights stock but have red reflectors on the bumper
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 09:25 AM
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hmmm I managed to pass inspection in NJ with taillights that are almost identical...in fact the clear part is even smoked a little bit....I thought you just needed red/amber turn signals...woops?
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 09:38 AM
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but at least we don't have inspections
I'm in FL, I don't either
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 11:27 AM
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^+1 on FL. Got to love no emissions testing!!
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by lucnex
hmmm I managed to pass inspection in NJ with taillights that are almost identical...in fact the clear part is even smoked a little bit....I thought you just needed red/amber turn signals...woops?
"Come August 1st 2010- New Jersey will be the 30th state in the country to stop inspecting privately owned motor vehicles for mechanical defects.
Motor Vehicle Commission Chief Administrator Raymond Martinez said Friday that vehicles will still be tested for emissions, but not until they're five years old.
But police can still cite motorists for equipment problems such as broken headlights or tail lights." -NJ DMV

Only emissions testing now in jersey. So all of us with window tints can pass too
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 02:12 PM
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^^ Interesting to know....but I passed inspection back when they still actually gave a shit...and now I'm moving to Chicago in 4 weeks so guess it doesn't matter
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 02:45 PM
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I've had them for years here in NY and haven't had a problem with cops. I've been pulled over for my license plate being flipped down or my ATLP exhaust but never for my tails.
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 03:40 PM
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Everything is going to depend on the cops you see on a regular basis. I drove for several years without a front plate, never got pulled over once. The company I work for moved 10 miles, making me regularly drive in an area I don't frequent often, and I got pulled over within a week. The cop was nice about it, but told me that he's going to stop me again in about a week if its not on by then.

Most everything not stock on a car is illegal, but that in no way means you will have issues with it. It's just something you need to be aware of before you bother. Most cops wont care about clearing out tail lights, as long as the sections still glow the right colors. Don't put dumb blue or white bulbs in for turns, or white brake lights or something.

Just about the only way to ensure you will be OK, is don't touch a thing on the car.
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ZOMGVTEK
Most everything not stock on a car is illegal
whaaaaa?
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 03:46 PM
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Clear tail lights must have the DOT stamp somewhere on them to be truly legal and your color pattern are correct ( Red for brakes and Amber for turn-signals.)

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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SharksBreath
whaaaaa?
Ex) Modifying ride height in FL is illegal, but pffftttt.
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by EvilVirus
Clear tail lights must have the DOT stamp somewhere on them to be truly legal and your color pattern are correct ( Red for brakes and Amber for turn-signals.)
Not necessarily. A manufacturer can put the DOT/ SAE stamp on a lens without it actually being tested. Ask APC how that worked out for them. Each manufacturer is responsible for their own testing after having been certified to do so. They also may certify a clear lens, then just use the same tool to produce a smoke or carbon fiber version, but never truly test it. The testing has to do with the light output at certain distances and angles plus the reflectors.
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverSVT
Yes they are illegal. Federal law (FMVSS.108) states there must be a red reflective surface visible from the sides and rear of the vehicle.

There must also be an amber surface visible from the sides of the front.

^This. Also, amber reflectors are required on the front of the vehicle, so cleared headlights or the USR clear diffusers are illegal as well.
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