Yonkersracing

Based on the videos I think your numbers are a bit low...Mustang dyno?, your car is real quick man props.

That Foxbody also probably had more than just bolt ons, they are not very fast at all with just bolt ons until you do a set of heads, cam and intake manifold on them, but just straight bolt ons, they won't even trap 100mph. If he claimed just bolt ons, and it didn't sound lumpy like it had a cam, I bet he was spraying.

Edit - Just saw it was a Mustang Dyno....you'd be closer to 280whp I'd assume on a dynojet.

DisgustipatedAP1

The new WRX's are monstrous, way more power vs the old ones.

ineedmyfixofacura

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yeah 250whp on a mustang , I prefer to say it that way, don't want to make my car seem quick.

I have a VF49 turbo, which is kinda crappy very small, not ball bearing nothing special. It's currently set up running 17psi, if pushed to run 22psi it'll explode no questions asked, but yes I'd make 300whp.

The new WRX have the VF52 which is a lot more refined. My turbo may be on it's way out, which is expected with it having 107k miles on it and having 17psi pushed thru it since 70k miles. Idk if it's the seals or simply an oil return line, but I have oil splattering all over my transmission and also it makes a slight whistle sound.

if my turbo has a lot of shaft play and is kaput, I will be upgrading to an HTA68 which is a hybrid 16/18g turbo.

I'll need injectors, pump, fuel rail and a tune, after all said and down, car should produce 330whpish on a mustang dyno.

TypeYes

OP- Why do you have your nails painted? :theghey:
I noticed it in one of your videos.

ineedmyfixofacura

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lol what? if it was my unboxing of garbage videos from a few years back, it was from the lighting I assume. Trust me, if I painted my nails, I'd keep that a secret like all hell lmao.


update on the Legacy, turns out my inner CV boot is torn, grease everywhere, so the stuff on my trans isn't oil and the smell is from the grease burning.

We also inspected my cupler or whatever on my top mount and it seems the whistle is coming from there because it's not holding on tight, the parts just won't hold, so I may look into upgrading to a front mount. Glad the turbo is okay.

TypeYes

No it was one of the videos you posted here. The daytime one of you vs. a WRX...when you have your hand on the steering wheel, your thumb nail looks to be painted lol. Pause it at 00:16 lol

ineedmyfixofacura

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bahaha it does! funny stuff, but thats because I was pressing my thumb hard(ish) against the steering wheel, so my thumb nail changed color

bigg_86

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hiiii people, well i got a run last night against a fully bolted mazda speed-6 running 18psi, im trying to get a hold of the video so i can share it with u guys..... sasha u left too early...runs were nuts last night!

bigg_86

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last year i made 318whp. at 3.5psi PCDs jpipe and catback.
now i have an aem fic which im trying to find someone to tune it.
upgrades since last summer are : rdx injectors, HBP, and AEM methanol kit. i tried to tune it but the damn fic decided to act up on me that day at the dyno and i only made like 298whp. deff screwing up. i got most of the issues fixed. now i need to find another place to tune it since the tuner went out of town to school.

bigg_86

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oh i almost forgot.... p2r unsprung clutch and light weight flywheel too

BostonSilverTypeS

^ in for some videos!!

ineedmyfixofacura

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German, post dyno video of your TL, and those videos damn it. I tried to find them, but after clicking "load more" literally 103 times, I gave up.

oh yeah, on the other hand my Subaru got some new shoes, here is how she sits for about another 2 weeks until it's time for winter prepping.

Dave_B

Those wheels! Do tell me about the specs. I'm assuming the SpecB has the same silly 5X100 bolt pattern as the non-STI Subaru cars.

Praise Jesus for the BRZ/FRS (another 5X100 car) because it should significantly open up the 5X100 wheel market.

Dave_B

I'm late to the game, but my roommate in college had a 90 LX 5.0 notchback. He had the timing advanced (simple basic mod), pullies, mufflers, and 3.73 gears, the car went 13.8@101mph at a track not known for giving out stellar numbers. It probably would have gone faster with 3.55s as the 3.73s were too much gear for that motor which didn't have any guts after 5000rpms. A 5.0 with headers, intake manifold, gears, and the other simple bolt-ons should be deep into the 13s at 104mph unless it's an automatic/convertible. Add a cam and it's in the 12s.

Another auto-x acquaintance had a 91 notch back with rebuilt 5.0 bored to a 306. Stock cam plus the basic bolt-ons. It went 13.6@104mph.

The reality is, don't sleep on a decent running bolt-on Fox, especially from 0-80mph. Above 100mph they're not great unless they've got a bit of work. From 0-80mph, they can be impressive especially with DRs and gears. That 9 inch rear has no issues yanking 1.6 60 foots with gears and a bonestock motor. It's entirely possible to go low low 13s in a stock 5.0 Fox with slicks and gears.

Sonnick

^ My cousin has a 89 LX with the 93 Cobra motor with a Vortech S-trim I believe. Went 10.71 @ 132 Monday @ Atco. Trans was giving him issues, it's a 10.40 car easy. I believe he's on the GT40 heads and stock cam as well. Car is a beast.

In for moar vids of the S/C TL and Legacy GT. Btw, those wheels look BOSS on the Subie.

TLove It!

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Sick car! Love the LX's. I had an 89 LX/Hatch 5spd. Is your cousins a notchback? (trunk)

Yonkersracing

lol, I've been around my fair share of fox's...for one that car would absolutely not have went faster with 3.55 gears rather than 3.73's, especially with just bolt ons....maybe once you're making 600+whp...

every single one of them that I've known has gone 14's with bolt ons, low 13s/high 12s w/ H/C/I + bolt ons, w/ pump gas, but I'm sure certain bolt on setups can go faster.

I ain't worried about 101 traps...but I appreciate your post.

Dave_B

I don't think you've been around enough Fox's nor understand how gearing works in cars, in general. It's possible to overgear a car to the point that it goes slower in the 1/4 mile. Bolt-on Mustangs take advantage of the deeper gears because they breath above 5000rpms therefore taking advantage of a bit more gearing because the powerband is that much wider. Many also run taller than stock tires which obviously takes away gearing. Just because you've raced some ratted out Fox bodies doesn't mean they're all slow. I will admit most are slow and have more bark than bite. Then on that rare occasion you'll come across a guy that knows something about the old pushrod 5.0 and it's shocking how good that motor can be. The car's light weight doesn't hurt either.

The right heads, cam, injectors, intake manifold, full exhaust, 3.73/4.10s, and all the other little trinkets and you're making ~300+whp/330+whq in a 2,800lbs car (LX 5.0 notch). EASY easy low to mid 12 second car trapping 110ish mph. Guys have gone deep into the 11s with the right suspension and pistons/rods (306 bore).

Sonnick

Hatch as well

Yonkersracing

I don't think you heard me right the first time. I knew of at least 5-7 local foxes, bolt ons...bolt ons/spray....bolt ons/cam/heads/spray...bolt ons/cam/heads/intake....bolt ons/cam/heads/intake/spray...

I know what they run, and I also know a bolt on 5.0 would absolutely not have went faster with 3.55 gears over 3.73's. I'd even be willing to bet the car would have went even faster with 4.10s or something even more aggressive. A stock motor fox has a very small powerband, therefore aggressive gears benefit them, especially with just bolt ons.

Would you like to tell me what else I do and don't know? lmao...

I've also only ever run 1 foxbody and that was when I was I/RH/E only and pulled him but that has no basis on my argument. Just because one out of 100 people does something doesn't mean they all will. The vast majority of bolt on foxes are in the 14s.

Dave_B

Why would you want to sail through the powerband in a split second? Ever driven a mostly stock 5.0 with 3.73s? Redlining (5500rpms) in 1st is good to around 28mph, 2nd to 57mph, 3rd to 82mph, and 4th to around 110mph. You do with math with 4.10s and see how that works out with all the shifting in the 1/4 mile

Like I said, increase the exceed the width of the powerband from ~3500-5000rpms to 4000-6200rpms and watch what happens and how effective the deeper gears become.

There's good reason why the high revving (7200rpm limiter) 4.6 Cobras make excellent gains going from the overly tall 3.27s to a set of much deeper 4.10s or even 4.30s.

Yonkersracing

Have you ever even seen a 5.0 w/ bolt ons dyno? They don't make any power past 5500 RPM without a cam/heads or intake...the Cobra 4.6 is totally different because it's a DOHC where as the 5.0 isn't even a OHC motor. How can you compare the two? lol two completely different engines.

Believe me I know my Mustangs, I grew up on them and have helped build and tune a fair share of modulars. But you are certainly entitled to your opinion even if it's not correct, lol.

Dave_B

OHC vs pushrod is meaningless to this argument and duh, the 96+ Cobra is a OHC Mod motor and the 4.9 liter "5.0" is a pushrod. I used the Cobra has an example to get my point across that deeper gears can improve performance when you've got a wider powerband and the power is in the mid and upper rpms. Why do you think that RSX-S you own has a 4.7 final drive and short tires? Ummmmm.....because it needs a crapload of torque multiplication to get it's butt into the heart of that super peaky and high rpm power band. Do you think all that torque multiplication would be benefical to a motor like a 5.0 that's making about 100% torque and much of it is available right off idle?

And yeah, stock 5.0s don't make power past 4900-5000rpms, but they redline at around 5500rpms. Lots of cars have redlines past their powerband. Just because a stock 5.0 redlines at 5500rpms doesn't mean you'd shift at 5500rpms. This is why you have to calculate ideal shift points. Some cars you shift at redline, others you vary the shift rpm.

Yonkersracing

Yeah, and a Foxbody Mustang with stock heads/cam/intake is not one of them.

Quick search for bolt on Foxbody's revealed this.

http://tomak3.tripod.com/page9.html

"What I Would Do To Run 12's

Assuming sea level conditions, and a standard tranny I would do the following to the car:

OPTION A

•3.73 gears

•Underdrive pulleys

•1 5/8" long tube headers (these are most likely too big, but will give you headroom if you go with a blower or NOS)

•2.5" Hi Flo H pipe (with long tube headers, most shops can build an H pipe with only 1 minor bend. Cheaper this way)

•Bored stock mass air meter (61mm) with K&N filter

•Phenolic spacer

•Ported stock heads with 1.94/1.6 valves and 1.7 rockers.

•Stock camshaft

•Stock bottom end with windage tray

•190 or 255 lph fuel pump

•Adjustable fuel pressure regulator

I had a combination like this on two separate occasions. Both cars ran ~13.2 @ 103 mph (12.6 @ 107 mph NHRA corrected for Calgary's 'bad' air). The only difference between the 2 cars and the combo above was that they had 3.55 gears. If you want faster than this naturally aspirated, a good rebuild may help (depending on the condition of your motor). Also a bump to about 10:1 compression, and maybe 4.10 gears. If your motor is in good shape, and you still want to go faster, I would recommend the next step.....forced induction."

ineedmyfixofacura

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5x100 18x9.75 +20
wrapped in 225/40/18 tires.

wheel width is nice, offset is to aggressive, if it was a +35 I'd rock them for a long time, but I just went to the last car meet of the season, so they are coming off this week and going up for sale.

$1000 takes em