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Old 02-10-2005, 01:16 PM
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AND WE ARE AHEAD OF THE G35!! AHHHH
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Well, the G35 has been out for awhile, so the TL gets a boost because it's new. I'm wondering what the rankings would be if the TL and G35 came out at the same time. But either way, both cars are great. People need to stop this obsession with beating the G35.
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Originally Posted by TLover
Well, the G35 has been out for awhile, so the TL gets a boost because it's new. I'm wondering what the rankings would be if the TL and G35 came out at the same time. But either way, both cars are great. People need to stop this obsession with beating the G35.
The TL has been around since 96, the G35 since 03. The obsession is from the fact that those of us that owned the earliest tl or CL S models (I owned both) saw the horsepower race of the sports sedan/coupe... In 91 the maxima had 190 ponies and that's about where it stayed till about 2000 when they came out with 222. Why... you ask? Because in 99 the newly designed tl had 225. And, in the fall of 00, the S engine came out in a coupe only (CL S) with 260. This is where the HP wars started.

Acura has only added 10 more ponies and a tad more torque... Infiniti came out in 03 and won car of the year with their 260 hp sedan/coupe and in 04 beat out the TL in handling. So devout acura fans are concerned about losing ground... and are pretty well justified as the power numbers climb on the G and acura has had some tranny issues etc...

no model is trouble free and gearing has a lot to do with the formula..

0-60 times, handling, and features, are the big 3 items ... of course looks price etc...

Oh yeah and now chrysler is coming out with an 300 SRT-8 model with a 6.1 liter hemi... 400+ hp and 400+ ftlbs torque and complete with a gas guzzler tax and no deactivating 4 cylinders. This baby has all 8 pumping all the time...

All for less than an A spec and it has F1 20 inch tires on it...

They might as well come back with a road runner... !!
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The TL has been around since 96, the G35 since 03. The obsession is from the fact that those of us that owned the earliest tl or CL S models (I owned both) saw the horsepower race of the sports sedan/coupe... In 91 the maxima had 190 ponies and that's about where it stayed till about 2000 when they came out with 222. Why... you ask? Because in 99 the newly designed tl had 225. And, in the fall of 00, the S engine came out in a coupe only (CL S) with 260. This is where the HP wars started.

Acura has only added 10 more ponies and a tad more torque... Infiniti came out in 03 and won car of the year with their 260 hp sedan/coupe and in 04 beat out the TL in handling. So devout acura fans are concerned about losing ground... and are pretty well justified as the power numbers climb on the G and acura has had some tranny issues etc...

no model is trouble free and gearing has a lot to do with the formula..

0-60 times, handling, and features, are the big 3 items ... of course looks price etc...

Oh yeah and now chrysler is coming out with an 300 SRT-8 model with a 6.1 liter hemi... 400+ hp and 400+ ftlbs torque and complete with a gas guzzler tax and no deactivating 4 cylinders. This baby has all 8 pumping all the time...

All for less than an A spec and it has F1 20 inch tires on it...

They might as well come back with a road runner... !!
The TL model name may have been around since '96, but this is about the 3rd gen. And this whole battle is all about ego, and having some third party justify our purchase. I think it's ridiculous how people get all excited about magazines rating the TL better than the G35. They're both good cars, each having their pluses and minuses. As long as YOU like your car, that's all that matters.
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Originally Posted by TLover
Well, the G35 has been out for awhile, so the TL gets a boost because it's new. I'm wondering what the rankings would be if the TL and G35 came out at the same time. But either way, both cars are great. People need to stop this obsession with beating the G35.

Who's beating the G35?? The only thing thats beating the G35 is the ugly stick!
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the point is they higher output CLs started fall 00 and he TLs were in 02. with 260 HP.. the G was not out till 03. The power train has been the same for years... and one year is not a long time in the auto industry...
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Originally Posted by TLover
People need to stop this obsession with beating the G35.
Seriously.

superiority complex n. A psychological defense mechanism in which feelings of superiority counter or conceal feelings of inferiority.
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Seriously.

superiority complex n. A psychological defense mechanism in which feelings of superiority counter or conceal feelings of inferiority.
seriously, it was beaten with an ugly stick!!
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Originally Posted by DopeTL04
seriously, it was beaten with an ugly stick!!

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THank you so much!! I fell so much better after throwing up!!
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This thread is heading downhill so fast I don't know which car will be at the bottom first.

It should be in Ramblings, so if anyone wants to start it again there, feel free to do so.

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