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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 08:18 AM
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Question Screeching noise when turning hard....

A few weeks ago we were leaving a parking garage in Pittsburgh and as we spiraled downward to get out, every time we turned (left) there was a harsh screeching noise coming from the chassis somewhere (or that's what it sounded like). At the time my b/f, who was driving, didn't want me to freak out so he told me it was nothing; although he really did think it could be something wrong, but wanted to hear it again. Well, we did...a few times since then. But it is only when you are making a hard left turn.

I wanted to get some feedback from here before I call the dealer.
Has anyone experienced this or know what causes this to occur?

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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 08:32 AM
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I would think it's your tires.....................
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by AcuraDriver2006
I would think it's your tires.....................
Hey AcuraDriver2006!~
As always - thank you!

Coincidentally the b/f also thought that could be it; he said it sounded like the tires were rubbing against the car. Is that possible??
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 08:50 AM
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Hey AcuraDriver2006!~
As always - thank you!

Coincidentally the b/f also thought that could be it; he said it sounded like the tires were rubbing against the car. Is that possible??
On certain asphalt/concrete compounds, a noticeable high-pitched sound will come from the tires as the rubber tries to grip to the surface of the asphalt/concrete.

At my parking garage at work, I can be traveling at slow speeds (5 MPH) and whenever I make a turn the tires will howl like a dog in heat.

This sounds like what you're experiencing; however, you could always park your car and crank the wheel as far to the left/right as possible and then look in the wheel wells and under the car to see if anything is making contact with the tires or if something is rubbing.

Of course, better safe than sorry - you could always just take it to service.
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by KJW73
Hey AcuraDriver2006!~
As always - thank you!

Coincidentally the b/f also thought that could be it; he said it sounded like the tires were rubbing against the car. Is that possible??

They aren't rubbing on the car. They are squeeling on the concrete parking garage floor due to the smooth surface versus that of asphalt. Basically you are loosing traction.

edit: Tripp11 beat me too it.
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 09:00 AM
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Thanks Guys!
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by KJW73
Hey AcuraDriver2006!~
As always - thank you!

Coincidentally the b/f also thought that could be it; he said it sounded like the tires were rubbing against the car. Is that possible??

Hey Kelly,

Been awhile since you visited our site 6-23-2006 ... why did you quit on us

Anyway, the above comments from a few members solved your mystery. There's nothing wrong to your car. It's just your tires rubbing against certain concrete. Happens to me at certain spots in philly.
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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I get the above said howling noise when i make a hard left turn into our parking spot. It is not a garage but asphalt or tar surface so I dont think it is the tire slipping. Also I hear it only when i am turning hard and braking at the same time. I had it checked out while it was on a lift but couldnt find anything.. Any suggestions..
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by binTL
I get the above said howling noise when i make a hard left turn into our parking spot. It is not a garage but asphalt or tar surface so I dont think it is the tire slipping. Also I hear it only when i am turning hard and braking at the same time. I had it checked out while it was on a lift but couldnt find anything.. Any suggestions..
...you said it so much better! I also would like to know more.... Hope that someone has a positive identity for this problem.
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 03:36 PM
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Do you use wheel dressing (the stuff that makes your tires shiny)? Looks like you do from your avator. I experience screeching on smooth surfaces with a new coat of wheel dressing.
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by KJW73
...you said it so much better! I also would like to know more.... Hope that someone has a positive identity for this problem.
Take it to the dealer and have them check it out.
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by KJW73
A few weeks ago we were leaving a parking garage in Pittsburgh and as we spiraled downward to get out, every time we turned (left) there was a harsh screeching noise coming from the chassis somewhere (or that's what it sounded like). At the time my b/f, who was driving, didn't want me to freak out so he told me it was nothing; although he really did think it could be something wrong, but wanted to hear it again. Well, we did...a few times since then. But it is only when you are making a hard left turn.

I wanted to get some feedback from here before I call the dealer.
Has anyone experienced this or know what causes this to occur?

Thanks!

I had this same issue. It turned out that my rear brake pads were worn and the wear indicator was causing the sound. The sound was a high pitch squeal/rattle.
It initially only occured during hard turns. And then very infrequently. About a month later it was almost constant and was easily identified as the rear pads indicator.

The TL has huge spaces inbetween the spokes of the wheel. It's very easy to visually check your brake wear. Take a look and see if any (front or rear) pads are worn. If they are, you've probably found the origin of your noise.

Another test:
Most of the time tapping the brake pedal during the screech would eliminate or change the sound for a bit.

Check it out and let us know
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Glenn Davis
I had this same issue. It turned out that my rear brake pads were worn and the wear indicator was causing the sound. The sound was a high pitch squeal/rattle.
It initially only occured during hard turns. And then very infrequently. About a month later it was almost constant and was easily identified as the rear pads indicator.

The TL has huge spaces inbetween the spokes of the wheel. It's very easy to visually check your brake wear. Take a look and see if any (front or rear) pads are worn. If they are, you've probably found the origin of your noise.

Another test:
Most of the time tapping the brake pedal during the screech would eliminate or change the sound for a bit.

Check it out and let us know
Thanks, Glenn!
That's interesting....
I'll have to check that out also; I'm open to whatever to figure this out.

I have a question, though:
I have 7,500 miles on my car; isn't that a little too soon for my brakes to be wearing out already? Granted, I do drive in city traffic; constant stop and go and on the brakes....but I've never experienced that issue with any of the previous new cars that I've owned. Any thoughts?
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by KJW73
Thanks, Glenn!
That's interesting....
I'll have to check that out also; I'm open to whatever to figure this out.

I have a question, though:
I have 7,500 miles on my car; isn't that a little too soon for my brakes to be wearing out already? Granted, I do drive in city traffic; constant stop and go and on the brakes....but I've never experienced that issue with any of the previous new cars that I've owned. Any thoughts?
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too soon for rear brake pads to be wearing out.

It's extremely difficult for any of us to diagnose a problem that anyone has with their car by just reading a description.

The safest option you have available is taking it back to the dealer and telling them what it's doing. At least they would be able to put it up on a rack for you and look it over.

If it's just tire noise trying to make contact with some concrete surfaces, so be it. If it's something that needs to be repaired though, I'm sure it will be covered under warranty if you only have 7,500 miles.
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by KJW73
Thanks, Glenn!
That's interesting....
I'll have to check that out also; I'm open to whatever to figure this out.

I have a question, though:
I have 7,500 miles on my car; isn't that a little too soon for my brakes to be wearing out already? Granted, I do drive in city traffic; constant stop and go and on the brakes....but I've never experienced that issue with any of the previous new cars that I've owned. Any thoughts?
Depends on how you brake.... I changed mine at 11k into ASPEC pads. Then again at 27k into Rotora BBK. Boy! My brakes just keep on getting better and better
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 10:07 AM
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Depends on how you brake.... I changed mine at 11k into ASPEC pads. Then again at 27k into Rotora BBK. Boy! My brakes just keep on getting better and better
The poster who brought up brake pads was referring to rear brake pads. You changed rear pads at 11K?

I might be able to see front pads wearing that quick but not rears.
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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I think it's your alignment that's off.... that would cause the noise on certain pavements... Please go and check your alignment and start from there.... One tire might have the proper geometry and the other might not, so one tire might be being dragged along, hence making the noise... Seen this happen plenty of times, but usually on american cars....
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 02:48 PM
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I have the car in at the dealer for some other warranty work so when I pick it up tonite i will ask them to check that out too...
I do use tire dressing but the sound is not when because of the dressing in betweeen the tire and road and I am sure i have heard the sound weeks after i have used the dressing on the tire.
It cannot be the wear indicator on the pads since i should hear the sound whenever i brake (even in straight line) but this happens in hard left turns are slow speed.
I had a look in the tire well when it was up on the rack when i took the car to an independent mechanic and couldnt find a rubbing mark anywhere.
Maybe i can try and reproduce it while i am the dealer... ( which never works out )... lol
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 05:53 PM
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It cannot be the wear indicator on the pads since i should hear the sound whenever i brake (even in straight line) but this happens in hard left turns are slow speed.
In my experience, Honda/Acura wear indicators may or may not be audible during braking. The can make the sound at ANY time the car is moving as long as the pads are worn enough.

Still, your problem may be something else.
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 05:56 PM
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Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too soon for rear brake pads to be wearing out.

It's extremely difficult for any of us to diagnose a problem that anyone has with their car by just reading a description.

The safest option you have available is taking it back to the dealer and telling them what it's doing. At least they would be able to put it up on a rack for you and look it over.

If it's just tire noise trying to make contact with some concrete surfaces, so be it. If it's something that needs to be repaired though, I'm sure it will be covered under warranty if you only have 7,500 miles.
True, at only 7500miles, it's a bit early for worn pads.
Unlikely, but possible.
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 07:35 PM
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I had this same issue. It turned out that my rear brake pads were worn and the wear indicator was causing the sound. The sound was a high pitch squeal/rattle.
It initially only occured during hard turns. And then very infrequently. About a month later it was almost constant and was easily identified as the rear pads indicator.

The TL has huge spaces inbetween the spokes of the wheel. It's very easy to visually check your brake wear. Take a look and see if any (front or rear) pads are worn. If they are, you've probably found the origin of your noise.

Another test:
Most of the time tapping the brake pedal during the screech would eliminate or change the sound for a bit.

Check it out and let us know
Don't discount the brakes being the problem. I experienced the same exact phenomenon on wife's 2000 Accord., but in that case it was only RH turns.

Anyone want to start taking bets? My money's on brakes...

Let us know what the outcome is!
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by rodneyc77
I think it's your alignment that's off.... that would cause the noise on certain pavements... Please go and check your alignment and start from there.... One tire might have the proper geometry and the other might not, so one tire might be being dragged along, hence making the noise... Seen this happen plenty of times, but usually on american cars....
I think that's the reason why the tires are producing that noise, get your alignment checked out. I had hit a curb on the righthand passenger side of the TL, when driving or hitting left turns or corners, I would hear the noise that you're talking about. I brought my TL to my alignment guy and he fixed the noise problem by performing and alignment on my TL.
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 07:40 AM
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A loose belt could cause a squealing screech sound. Driving at low speeds and making extreme turns with low fluid levels could put a load on the power steering pump creating resistance on the pulley. The belt slips and you get a pleasant sound that causes other drivers to look at you in admiration.

The TL has an auto tensioner which is supposed to keep the belt tight. Check the for a loose belt on the power steering pump or dirty/wet power steering pump pulley. On the passenger side of the engine, the power steering pump is at highest pulley that the belt wraps around. You only have to pull off one plastic engine cover on the right side of the engine to inspect the belt and pump.

Make sure your steering fluid is not low but don't over fill it.
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 02:24 PM
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Well, wouldn't you know... I somewhat described the noise incorrectly (as told to me by the b/f) - and apologize for that. I actually heard this noise again two days ago; and again, it was turning the steering wheel to the left.

This past Tuesday I was backing out of my designated garage space (as I have done daily for the past 7 years) and I always have to turn the wheel LEFT to back out. I heard the noise again... and it's not "screeching" it's more of a grinding or thumping noise. For background info... I have never hit anything with this car (**knock on wood**) and I haven't hit any potholes or speedbumps to throw my alignment off. Our roads in PA (or at least Harrisburg) suck; they really do... and even with perfect alignment my car will drift to whatever side of the road that slopes.

This weekend we're going to take it to a mall's vacant parking lot early morning to try to make the noises again so that maybe we can try to identify what's up.

binTL: How did it go at the dealership??
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Crook
A loose belt could cause a squealing screech sound. Driving at low speeds and making extreme turns with low fluid levels could put a load on the power steering pump creating resistance on the pulley. The belt slips and you get a pleasant sound that causes other drivers to look at you in admiration.

The TL has an auto tensioner which is supposed to keep the belt tight. Check the for a loose belt on the power steering pump or dirty/wet power steering pump pulley. On the passenger side of the engine, the power steering pump is at highest pulley that the belt wraps around. You only have to pull off one plastic engine cover on the right side of the engine to inspect the belt and pump.

Make sure your steering fluid is not low but don't over fill it.
This may sound like a silly question (no sarcasm)...
Wouldn't the dealership check all of the fluids when you take the car into be serviced? Like when you get it inspected?? I mean - I only took delivery of the car last November 15th....... and I've owned cars for years and never had to touch the steering fluid. If that were the case: I'd be pissed.

But, I'll check everything just to be sure.... doesn't hurt.
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 05:59 PM
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Don't discount the brakes being the problem. I experienced the same exact phenomenon on wife's 2000 Accord., but in that case it was only RH turns.

Anyone want to start taking bets? My money's on brakes...

Let us know what the outcome is!

Yeah, I say the brakes as well.
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by KJW73
This may sound like a silly question (no sarcasm)...
Wouldn't the dealership check all of the fluids when you take the car into be serviced? Like when you get it inspected?? I mean - I only took delivery of the car last November 15th....... and I've owned cars for years and never had to touch the steering fluid. If that were the case: I'd be pissed.

But, I'll check everything just to be sure.... doesn't hurt.
True, the dealership checks the fluids. The labor alone to check the steering fluid is at least $40 worth of work at Acura. (Sarcasm)
It seems that you never lose steering fluid unless you have a leak or theres a major problem with the system.

Now that you've given a more accurate description of the noise, "grinding or thumping", I may suggest keeping an eye on the CV joints. Is the thumping similar to a knock or click? A dull grinding or a metalic grinding noise?
If it's dull, check to make sure a tire isn't rubbing the wheel well liner which may have shifted when a b/f ran something over and didn't tell you about it. Turn the wheels to the left and see if there is any contact.

If it's a metallic grinding sound then I would suspect the brake pad wear indicator as mentioned earlier. I just hope it's not a bad wheel bearing on the hub. The car's warranty should cover any of these issues if they could locate the source of the noise.

You can try to duplicate the noise while someone is standing outside of the vehicle to listen. See if they can tell what side of the vehicle it is coming from.

I only hear screeches, squeals and thumps in my car when I travel with the family. Goes away as soon as they exit the vehicle.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 02:00 PM
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my friend has tha same prob on his accord when he turns right but its because 1 of his tires is bigger than tha rest...
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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A possibility is that the lug nuts are not torqued correctly or there is some dirt or other debris between the hub and the wheel. This would allow the wheel and the hub to move relative to each other, causing the noise. It may be that only a left turn creates the right conditions to hear the noise.
A squealish sound could also occur with brake pads that are not worn, but have a hard spot in the pad material.

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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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I have the same thing dealer says it is normal.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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I asked the dealer to try and reproduce this issue but they said they could not.
So I took the car back from them without getting this fixed.

I had taken the car in for a window regulator problem which got fixed. Also I told them about a cracking sound on the A pillar on driver side ( under the grab handle ). They said they fixed the sound but after a test drive it is worse than it was before.. AAAArrrrgghhhh...

Now i need to take it back in later and reproduce both these issues and get them fixed.

Funny thing - i went in with a rear passenger window regulator issue ( not going up or down ) but they found the problem with the front passenger window and fixed its regulator and they say they lubricated the rear window guide so it does not create any sound.
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