apwalsh

One of those suped up Neons came up behind me today on RT135. He almost kissed my bumper and proceeded to attempt to pull around me. I just dropped down and floored it. We were up past 120 before I let off (GF in the car) But I stayed ahead of him the whole time. He was definetly racing too. I got a wave from him as he passed. Nice guy!

I though someone here said those things would tear a TL apart. Maybe that was from a dead stop I don't really remember. I also would have liked to let it last longer, but high speed is very dangerous when someone is figeting in the passenger's seat

adam209

he was either a bad driver or it was a fake srt. those things are crazy fast for under 20 g's. either way, good kill

apwalsh

I'm pretty sure it wasn't fake but he might have been a bad driver. I had expected to just tear it apart until I realized I couldn't get away from him! When he passed, I saw the SRT badge on the back. Before that, I thought it was just a regular neon with some money put into it.

Thanks anyway but I don't think it falls into the "kill" category! I'm still looking for my first true kill (even start with open road)

Tecworld

SRTs will lose their edge against a TL at high speeds. It might be pretty even at highway speeds above 100mph. Same with G35s and Nissan Zs

jimthegreek

vtechbrain

All these 4 cylinder turbo wonders are lame in situations other than 0 to 60, they'll go down in flames at highway speeds. Thats how Ive chumped 2 SRX's.

adam209

srt or wrx?

Fast Gold

SRT4's can pull EVO, STi's and Mustang GT's on the highway. U got it the opposite way, they suck from a stop, not on the highway. I used to own a CL-S with all the mods and it dyno'd 242whp. My bro just bought a SRT4 and it felt was faster than my modded CL-S from a stop and a roll.

ssk0771

Car & Driver 10/03: TL
0-60 6.0sec, 1/4mi 14.7sec, 0-100 15.7sec

Car & Driver 03/04: TL
0-60 5.8sec, 1/4mi 14.5sec, 0-100 14.9sec, 0-120 23.1sec

Car & Driver 03/04:G35
0-60 6.3sec, 1/4mi 14.6sec, 0-100 14.8sec, 0-120 21.7sec

Car & Driver 08/03: 350Z Roadster
0-60 5.5sec, 1/4mi 14.3 sec, 0-120 22.6sec

Car & Driver 04/04: SRT-4
0-60 5.3sec, 1/4mi 13.9sec, 0-100 13.4sec

Automobile 03/04: 350Z Track
0-60 5.6sec, 1/4mi 14.1sec, 0-100 13.5sec

Road & Track 03/04: 350Z
0-60 5.3sec, 1/4mi 13.77sec, 0-100 13.0sec

Road & Track (Road Test Results)

TL: 0-60 6.1sec, 1/4mi 14.4/98.2mi

SRT: 0-60 5.4sec, 1/4mi 13.9/101.9mi

G35: 0-60 5.8sec, 1/4mi 14.3/100.3mi
G35 Coupe: 0-60 5.8sec, 1/4mi 14.2/ 99.4mi

350Z: 0-60 5.5sec, 1/4mi 13.9/102.3mi
350Z: 0-60 5.6sec, 1/4mi 14.0/101.9mi

It seems like SRT,G35 & 350Z do very well in low & high speed against the TL. Especially the SRT.

Just for FYI

EFlecha

I am the pround owner of an 99 contour svt, yes still have.. we studied the srt-4 very much so over there, the srt-4 is a monter 0-60 but with the power band the way it is.. up top they are very much average. I know this after racing one in my svt contour up top..stayed with him while eating peanuts.. STOCK mode they are very average up top.. if you dont believe it..look at their power band..and the dyno.

I totally believe the TL story on top of this thread.. in fact I'm suprised the TL did take him worse up top.. and the TL 6spd 04 does 0-60 in 5.7 per car and driver (TV) not no 6.1.. must of been the superdeluxesupremo sportshift manualmatic megatron they tested. Also car and driver pulled consistent low 14's like TOV did.. I think their best was 14.2.

That being said..I have an 03 (no lsd) SRT-4 video with minimal mods doing 12.6 handing a viper his ass.

pure race,, the srt-4 is the way to go.. I have 2 here in naples 18,500 OTT!!!!!!! red and yellow.

Im not a salesman either.

vtechbrain

It was late,sorry WRX's.

vtechbrain

0-60 and 1/4 miles cannot measure highway speed acceleration. Most turbo four bangers (specially domestic) loose umph up high because the power band is quite narrow (thats why VTEC is so sweet). If The subaru is close in performance to the SRT-4 I doudt it can beat the TL in those conditions since the ones I've dusted have not been much of a challenge from 60 up to 130.

VQ35DE

SRT Topend is 153mph (drag limited) - April 2004 C/D; last I read, the TL tops out at 152 (governed, I believe). So it the SRT4 has some good topend.

As far as boost vs topend goes, the SRT4 does run @ 1 bar so it wont run out of steam like the base WRX or stock GST/X. Given that the SRT4 is drag limited @ 153mph tells me that it could have more topend if the Neon had slightly better aerodynamics than the brick it is now.

$.02

vtechbrain

There's some guy in town that has one maybe I'll find out pretty soon!

Skeedatl

Even if the SRT gets beat by a TL or anything else...they're a simple wastegate mod (like changing the spring, or adding a boost controller--which can be as simple as a pressure regulator off an air compressor-- to the wastegate line) away from kicking serious ass. Turbo cars are cheap to get a little extra HP out of especially if they don't have a computer controlled actuator. The factories are always afraid of grenading them and having to then fix them under warranty so they never build as much boost as the motor could really handle.

DohNuts

Yeah, I remember Car & Driver had a long-term test of the VW Passat a few years ago, and they chipped their own test car, sending it from 150hp with the 1.8T engine to 210...all for US$5-600. Dropped the 0-60 on that car to ~6.5 secs from 8+.

You'll have a much harder time finding extra hp on a naturally-aspirated car for the same $$$.

WhiteTiger

The TL is a Sport/Luxury Sedan. If your out to race you bought the wrong car. If you want to blow the doors off everthing out there, spend the $36,000 on a 2 door coupe with twin turbos and nitrous injection. Don't get me wrong though, I get a kick out of blowing past a Maxima or 325I before the lanes converge on the onramp, but if I were really concerned about head hunting the TL would not be my first choice. What I do have that the SRT, WRX, 350Z, or the G35 don't is Nav, Handfree Link, heated seats and mirrors, DVD audio, voice response system, and a 0-60 in under 6 seconds. At the end of the day I get WAY MORE for my money, and that is what is most important to me!

DohNuts

Couldn't have put it better myself

vtechbrain

All true but just for the hell of it. BTW the SRT commercial "only" claims 5.8 to 60, ummmm C/D claims 5.8 to 60 for the TL UMMMMM!!!! Every day I fathom that CD's numbers tend to be pretty bogus with numerous fudge factors that make them useless. It is a fact that the TL 6 spd is faster than the manual versions of the accord and Altima, but, since they had pegged those 2 at 5.9 they pegged the acura one tenth faster, they pulled that one out of a hat or the altima and accord were ringers submited by the respective companies. Thats the reason I like consumer reports is that they buy their cars like we do they just show up at a dealer and buy a car. There is no chance of getting a manufacturer "ringer" vehicle.

Tecworld

Actually, according to the info you posted, the TL and 350Z to 120 is pretty even. SRT doesn't have a 120mph statistic so it's inconclusive, you never know when the turbo 4 will start losing pace, or when the drag of the car will overcome the power. So basically, from the info you included here, there's really no way to tell how a 100mph+ drive between the TL or any of these cars will really go. The TL might top out higher than any of those cars. Who knows. From these numbers, you don't and we don't.

ssk0771

Don't forget that 0-120 on the Car & Driver is on 350z Roadster which is Slower that the 350z coupe.

Also, SRT tops out at 153MPH. 350z tops out at 155(governed)

VQ35DE

Well I couldnt find any 0-120mph time for the SRT4 but the 0-130mph time is 24.8 seconds (April 2004 C/D).

I love boost!! To this day, I miss my old 89 Colt GT Turbo. And the prospect of trading my 2k2 Max for a 2k5 Legacy turbo has me salivating.

ssk0771

Also at high speed, .5 sec is a lots of distance.