i asked a internet sales that what would be the total cost for a TL if i buy it for 30k

he say $32,979.56.

It would be $2629.81 sales tax, $294.75 govt. fees and $55.00 DOC.

are these fees and tax legit?

 

The licensing fees and doc charge sound about right, but the sales tax you mentioned exceeds 8.5%.
What is the sales tax rate in the county for where this dealer/broker is located?
FYI, sales tax in LA County, CA is 8.25%.

 

its from marin acura ffrom the bay area

 

The tax depends on your local and state tax rates. It'll be hard for us to let you know unless we know which state you are from. Although it seems like it's around 8% sales tax and the gov fees and doc fees sound ok to me. But once again, it depends on which state you are from.

 

$30k for a non-navi 07 TL is an incredibly great price. Are there other factors involved that you haven't told us, such as trade in, financing or leasing etc?

 

Get a breakdown on the quoted sales taxes.
As far as I know, Marin County has a 7.75% base sales tax and a 0.5% sales tax for transportation purposes, for a total tax rate of 8.25%, which is $2475 on $30K purchase.
There may be additional local tax levies (city or County) to get to the tax amount you were quoted, or the tax number may be padded.
G/L!

 

Maybe I'm missing something.

$32979.56 * .08 = $2638.36, which is within a few dollars of what she says her sales tax will be.

I agree that you should know what exactly gets taxed and what the tax rate is, but it doesn't look like it's padded or like she's getting hosed.

 

I assumed Autogirl's taxable sales price was $30K, and that the total OTD price was $32,979.56 based on the initial post.
The sales tax figure is high, by about $154, on that basis and assuming no additional local tax assessments.

 

nope i didnt get 30k, he quoted me 30600,

and i asked him how much would it be if i can get a 30k.

and he told me that price and said however i can do that price.

 

It is a great price even at 30,600, but the sales tax in CA is a killer

 

no i think its way too much one of my friends friend got his TL

for 32k otd which was around 29k + TTL

thats hot, i wish i can get my TL 31k OTD

 

girlonfire.. are you trying to get an 07? why not get an 04 or 05?

 

lol, why get 04 05, when u can get 07. i dont like old TL, i like it Brand New

 

try stevens creek acura in SJ ... they are willing to deal since they're #1 in numbers ...

 

Sounds right. When you go to the dealership ask to see the break down on there screen. When you sign the contract you will also see the break down as well

 

I suggested it because you were trying to stay in the 30k-below price; which is probably going to end up being a certified used TL. 04-06 is the same body style; I personally won't buy another brand new car because 1) I don't want to suffer the value loss and 2) I drive 100+ miles a day so it wouldn't make sense to spend more on a brand new car and then have it be worth less money when it comes time to trade it in or sell it because of the annual mileage.

Just my two cents... I don't think you'll be able to find an 07 for $30k out the door.

2003 was the old body style.. the new one started in 04 with minor styling changes in 07

 

Timmahh - You may want to re-read this thread. She says that the dealer is willing to sell her a 2007 TL (I assume no NAVI) for $30K + taxes and fees...ala her original $32,xxx figure. Used 2004's can be bought for as low as $22K in the open market so there is a big savings there but there is also a big difference between a new and used TL so IMHO if she can get a new one for her target price range (appears she can), then I too would go for it. As a matter of fact, I am thinking of trading in my 2004 for 40K miles IF I can find a "reasonable" dealer willing to part with a TL-S for the $34,175 price target a few are mentioning on here myself...

 

"physically" there's not a big difference between a new one and a used one.. other than minor cosmetic changes, and the miles. If you're one of the people who can't buy a used car because you don't know who owned it before you then I can see why you would have to have a new one. Used doesn't mean trashed and beat to shit (especially certified used). She had another thread the other day asking roughly the same questions so I thought she was looking at both new and used.

Also, her first post in this thread:
Mentions no year/options/used/new/etc.

The price mentioned above, $32,979.56, is that 100% off the dealer-lot-already-went-through-finance amount? If any accessories are added like an extended warranty or window tint the price will be more. Also have to think about the loan and interest rate on the car, gap insurance, etc. Even if they let the car go for $30k before tax/etc. it's going to well beyond the $33k when all is said and done.

 

yea i know the 04-06 looks the same as the 07 and not that much differences. but i test drove the 07 and i like it more than the 06s plus my family and i wouldnt be happy if i spent over 15g for a used car. i would rather add another 5g down for a new car. also i dont drive 100 miles a day only use for school proly around 10 miles.

thanks tho

 

Invoice on an 07 non-navi is 31.5k. If your friend got his at 29k + ttl, and you wish you can get yours NOW at 31k OTD, I wish you the best of luck , as I am not aware of any cash incentive to dealers or buyers from Acura on the TL at this time.

 

what does certified has to do with trashed or beat to shit? certified has no indication of the previous owner's driving behavior.

plus, do you know that more than 30% of the pre-owned certified at the dealer are NOT certified? you can verify that from autonews.com, it was an article last year.

 

Do you mean that like it's written? Either it's certified or it's not, am I right? Or are you saying dealers are selling cars as certified that really aren't? Also, FWIW, the '02 I bought was a Certified, although it had been hit - the passenger door rubbed the fender when opened, and that obviously wasn't 'factory' - I just verified it really was certified, and beat them up on price some more. And Acura stood by it as certified for both tranny's it needed. Yes, the Carfax was 'clean', but the car definitely had been hit. I just got in a fender bender on the highway where someone changed lanes onto me, and when I took it in to the bodyshop they showed me the bondo that had been used! Certified does not mean perfect, just that the warranty is longer. I won't buy new because of the depreciation, IMHO new cars are a waste of money when you can go a year or two older and get the same car for a lot less, and when I trade the '02 for a 3Gen it'll be a certified.

 

If you have certified a car before you would know there are certain criteria that must be met.. if the car has been completely beaten to shit it's not going to get the Acura certification.. So what you said is exactly true - not every pre-owned vehicle is certified, only the ones that pass their standards.

A car that that has been painted over 50%, has higher than normal mileage and is dirty - aka beaten to shit - will probably not get the certified used status/warranty (there of course are exceptions so i'm not saying every car that isn't certified is like the example given; just throwing some things out there). In the end they are all the same cars; but certified used offers a piece of mind to some people. I completely realize certified has absolutely nothing to do with the previous owners ability to drive or how he/she drove the car, but I think the cert. used cars come with an additional 12k/12 month warranty... ? Is that correct?

Yes.. it's correct:

Acura Certified Pre-Owned Vehicle program specifications include:


150-point vehicle inspection
Certified Limited Warranty - (12 months/12,000 miles)
7-year/100,000 mile Powertrain Limited Warranty
Zero deductible
Attractive Honda Finance Rates and Leases
Optional Acura CareŽ Certified Additional Coverage
Three Day Guaranteed Exchange Policy (where applicable)
Warranty coverage honored nationwide at all Acura dealers

Customer Care Benefits
(during the 12 month/12,000 mile Limited Warranty period)
24 hour Roadside Assistance
Acura Concierge Service
Computerized Trip-Routing/Map Services
Emergency Vehicle Lockout Service


So again, if the vehicle doesn't meet the criteria for CPO they might end up sending the car to wholesale or sell it as-is used; but there's a reason why it didn't get certified.

 

Will, you are absolutley correct. I misread the original post and figured the tax base on $32k+, not on $30k.

 

Timmah and Jimmmah - Just a request but I think I may speak for the majority of the posters in this thread when I say "Why don't you guys take your "certified" debate to another thread and stop Hijacking this one where the original poster was simply asking about new car pricing". I will agree that she didn't EXPLICITLY state NEW in her original post but it's pretty obvious from her subsequent postings (i.e. yesterdays that preceeds your debate today) that USED (even a certified used) is something she is NOT interested in. IMHO this thread should be about the cost (and benefits) of a NEW TL rather than the merits (or lack of them) of the Acura certification process.

Stuff more like...Which dealer did he get $29K + XYZ OTD and ABC got a TL-S for $34,175K from XYZ dealership, etc (at least THAT is the stuff I want to see out of this thread)

 

It is not difficult to negotiate a 07 Tl non-navi for32k OTD. at least I have seen quite a few dealers give me this offer. (Alhambra, CA)

The whole point about getting a use car is to pay less. however, as far as i know, getting a certified Acura Tl defies that purpose. a 2005 certified TL could easily cost you 27 to 30k. a 2006 Certified TL would cost more. unless you get a great deal (25k for 2005), i don't see the value in buying a used certified car.

 

I replied once to what Jimmy said.. so there's no debate; but I do agree that this thread needs to go back to the original question asked.. which is "is this price legit"

The correct answer, if you can get it for the price mentioned, is yes it's legit.