Spheno_3SXZERO

True Dat. I love the new Accords, but though the TL's are based on the same frame, and the safety is near the same, to me, that is where the similarities end.

VelfarreClubber

Do we have the same engine block as the accord?

avs007

Actually, those links are completely wrong.

FM Platform Introduction and G35 Introduction

The FM platform debuted with the introduction of the 11th generation Skyline (V35), in Japan, in 2001. The G35 was launched in the US in the spring of 2002.

Z history

The 350Z was introduced in 2003.

F23A4

Not to belabor the point more than necessary but the Fairlady Z/350Z was launched in July 2002; close enough in chronology to effectively render this argument practically moot.

avs007

That's still more than a full year after the launch of the Skyline. My original point was that the FM platform debuted on the Skyline/G35, not the 350Z.

F23A4

....point of the thread is that the platform is shared. (ref: 'Overpriced Accord')

avs007

Yes I know that, I was just refuting that the Z introduced the FM platform. In my previous post, I was saying that despite the shared platform, the G35 and the 350Z do not offer the same configurations.

The 350Z comes in a 2 seater Coupe, or convertible. The G35 comes in a 2+2 Coupe, or 4 door sedan. So they can't possibly step on each others toes.

Some could argue that the TL and Accord offer similar configurations, as they are both 4 door sedans, etc. And I know of a certain person on this board, who has gone on a rampage about why the Accord is better than the TL, but we don't need to go there.

However, before anyone flames me, I did say earlier, that I still think there is plenty of differentiation between the Accord and TL. The TL is sportier, and much sexier. I personally find the Accord Sedan, to be butt ugly all around. The Coupe though, I think looks good from the behind...

The Ford Taurus and Mercury Sable share practically everything except for the front grill... But anyone remember when there was a Dodge Neon and Plymouth Neon? The only thing differentiating those two cars, was the hood ornament.

avs007

To add:

The G35, FX, M35/M45, Z, all use the same platform, but they all use a different variation of the platform. The wheelbase is different in each car, for example.

Honda does this too, as the shared platform, comes in three sizes. Small=TSX, regular = TL, and large=RL. However, I think the Accord and TL are based on the same platform variation.

But all this is moot, as the cars are really tuned for different characters. If anything, the only exception would be perhaps the Accord Coupe. I think that would have stepped on the toes of the 3.2CL, but that car doesn't exist anymore.

Spheno_3SXZERO

Not that I'm aware of. As far as I know it is a Hyped up 3.0L over the 6th Gen. Accords.

"By 2003, the Accord had evolved through seven generations, with 2003 models offering power plants from 4 cylinder to V6. The 4 cylinder was aK24, a detuned version of the TSX engine. The 6 cylinder was the same J30 V6 as the sixth generation's, but its intake runners, exhaust, and headers contributed to a 40 horsepower (30 kW) increase."