CasperTL04

Coming from the Accord world I had a hunch that our ATs had transmission filters. The 3.2 is basically the same as the 3.0 that is in 7gen Accords. Someone on gen7accord.net (great forum btw) discovered that both the I4 and V6 had factory filters. Honda makes no mention of this in any of the maintanence scheduling for uknown reasons.

Reference this thread for pictures and how to change the V6 AT filter (page 4). Use these exact same steps to change the TL filter.
http://gen7accord.net/forums/viewtop...mission+filter

To confirm this for our TLs I went on acuraoemparts.com and, sure enough, it was identical to the Accord.

Reference the schematic below:


To change the filter you will need numbers 7, 22, 21, 24, 24. I think that's all. I dunno.

99% of all Honda/Acura techs don't know this tranny has a filter. If you ask them about this they will look at you dumbfounded. You can imagine how nasty this filter will probably be on your car because it has most likely never been changed. I would change this filter every 30K.

edit: Here is the link for acuraoemparts.com to order the filter and parts http://www.acuraoemparts.com/delray/...All&vinsrch=no

SporkLover

A Quick Scan of the 04 TL service manual doesnt seem to produce any data on this..... any quick how to's out there?

Bearcat94

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CasperTL04

yeah, just remove the intake (if stock) and the battery/tray. That should give you all the space you need.

I'll be doing this sometime this week (or when parts come in).

About the not being in the service manual. I dunno. It's crazy. Why in the world would Honda put a filter on something (that is also easily accessed) and not tell anyone or put it in regular maintenance??

Bearcat94

3G TL-S looks a bit different. It's and RL based tranny though, IIRC. Easier, I think with only 2 parts: Filter and washer/O-Ring; ~$12 in parts.

I couldn't find anything in the service manual either. Wonder if it was added later - after '04.

lembowski

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can anyone confirm that this filter is infact on our cars?

Bearcat94

You mean besides being in the parts list?


http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/...s=&view=normal

lembowski

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Well considering it took 4 years to find out we have a removable trans filter.....I'm asking. No need to make a smartass comment. Ans considering your looking for 07-08.....I asked because I didn't see it for the 04-06

http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/acura/jsp/mws/prddisplay.jsp?inputstate=5&catcgry1=TL&catcgry2=2 004&catcgry3=4DR+BASE+NAVIGATION&catcgry4=KA5AT&ca tcgry5=AT++++++OIL+LEVEL+GAUGE-ATF+PIPE+(-+06)&ListAll=All&vinsrch=no&systemcomp=&vinnoT=&tr im=&trans=&view=normal

CasperTL04

lembowski, it's there in that link you posted. The filter is #7 in the pic.

TCM 01 CL-S

Interesting, I may have to check this out on the brothers 05 TL.

Does anyone happen to know if the 2G CL/TL glass transmission has such a thing?

Bearcat94

Sorry, wasn't trying to be an ass, smart or other wise (this time) - honest.

I just meant, "Are you looking for more proof than the fact it exists in the parts list?" Then posted the parts list and model use as a reference.

Posted '07 TL-S 'cause thats the model link I have saved as a favorite.

SRT-11

can we get a real (digital cam) pic of a removed & dirty filter someone?

lembowski

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Assuming the TL is the same as the 7gen accord look in the thread in the OP's post

SRT-11

I did, I just want to confirm it. I'd like to replace mine, as dirty as my tranny fluid was when I switched over to AMSOil!

Legend2TL

I was curious about this (I have a 6MT but my wife has a 2003 pilot with a 5AT), so I called the local Honda dealer and asked them if they ever change the filter in AT's in Honda's. The service tech who answered said no, however I'm thinking about replacing the filter in my wife's Pilot now. It is a different configuration than shown above, but looks pretty striaghtforward and easy to replace.

SRT-11

by all means, take pics

SRT-11

do you need to drain the tranny when doing a filter swap?

ILLustriousUA6

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hmm... interesting.

i wonder if anybody over 100,000miles on the TL's have changed this filter. I mean, they are still on their first tranny(i believe) and still running strong. Tis why i love honda's. they las forever

SRT-11

Dood you're from Gilroy. I've been there, there is a sweet brewpub up in morgan hill. Me and my buddy ran the wall (I think it was 20+ beers? don't worry we split each one.)

CasperTL04

I have 122K on the original 5AT. Doubt it's been changed judging by the condition of the car when I bought. According to a AT filter thread from 7genaccord.net, the filter will bypass when clogged.

AZuser

so anyone ever change their AT filter yet? pics?

rah11h

Does the 2007 TL not have the AT filter? The diagram says for 2004-2006. Just want to make sure when I do the 3 x 3 change to get the filter if it has one.

Dan1629

The TL-S in 07 and 08 have one but to change it you have to take out the trans. It is located behind the bell housing. How do I know? well I have a brand new trans filter on the shelf that I cant put in lol

KaMLuNg

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failz...

ILLustriousUA6

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Haha, crazy. Not a lot of people actually know where morgan hill is. It's a really small city, but there's a few poeple that I met that's from AZ...

I believe you are talking about the El Toro Brewery or something like that in downtown Morgan Hill

Slpr04UA6

To answer your question, Yes! I have an '04 so it was easier to change(right under the air intake box) than the newer TL's (07-08). That thing was quite dirty(black), and it only had around 30,***miles on it. I got it from my dealer's parts department, and they had never sold 1! Thought that was very weird, considering it would be an upsell for parts, and labor for them. Sorry no pics, I am still new here and I really only have a pic of the thing dirty. There are some other pics of other members filters on here somewhere.My

tyfer

The 04-06 TL's have a 3-axis transmission in them. This unit has an external filter. The purpose of this filter is to keep contamination from transfering from the cooler back into the transmission.
The 07 to current model TL's are equiped with a 4-axis transmission which is a complete (and more durable) animal. It's return filter is located inside the transmission and cannot be changed with out disassembly of the transmission.
All Honda ATM's have a separate filter referred to as an ATF strainer. This is also located inside the transmission. The purpose of this filter is to catch internal contamination such as friction material and small bits of metal that results from transmission break-in, and it keeps this material from entering the oil pump.

swoosh

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^^^

i did the 5AT filter change as well !!! after 115K miles it was still in good shape

when i found it has a filter i ordered it and changing is relatively simple is 04-06 models....07-08 i think its a lot more stuck back in !!! since i have an 05.....no need to take anything out....just 3 bolts and its out....be ready to get some bruises and some ATF on them !!!

SpiderX1016

hmm, I just got a 43k TL and the used car dealer is going to do a 1x3 next week.

I'm thinking about doing a 3x3 and Change the filter at 50k.

The fluid is kind of dark.

swoosh

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the tranny fluid should always look pinkish and should NOT have a burnt smell to it !!!