lavo

Which one should i get, they are both black on black 6 speed with navi.

Differences are:

2004 is 25700 after tax title and tags, it is of course an 04, 22k miles and I MUST finance 20k for 6 months, dont know the rate yet

2005 is 27300 so its 1600 more than the 04 after tax title and tags. Its of course an 05, but it has 26,500 miles, so 4,500 more than the 04 and no financing needed.

so the 05 is 1600 more with 4500 more miles.

Which one should i get?? or neither.


If i get the 04 i would stick the 1600 more into a warranty or mods, remember this 04 is a LATE 04 model, purchased in dec 04, so 1 year 4 months left on warranty.
and i know there is problems with the 04 but im not sure if its that big of a deal where i should avoid 04's.

erdoc48

With the 05, you get some more warranty time despite a little more mileage. Also, some folks have had some problems with the 04's like falling headliners and rattles (obviously, this was in a relatively small number of cars). Personally, I would go with the 05- you indicated that for the 04, you would be forced to finance for at least 6 months, so you don't know if the finance company is going to gouge you with a high rate, even if for only 6 months. Whatever money savings you gain with the 04 may be lost in financing.

erdoc48

One last thing... which car is in better condition? I'm assuming your question about which car to buy is based on 2 equal condition cars. The price doesn't seem too steep- I just checked KBB.com and nada.com for private party sales prices and they come pretty close to what you would be paying.

lavo

ive thought of that, and if it is any higher than 8% i will go with the 05, but for this poll lets say the interest rates are the same. thanks for the votes/replies in advance.

erdoc48

Personally, I would still rather have the newer car.

ballinfizzle89

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eh, yeah, but it all really depends on the previous owner. And sorry if I missed this, but are they CPO? (Certified Pre-Owned)

lavo

no ones an infiniti dealer in NYC and the other is a honda/volkswagon dealer in maryland, both cars are in good condition

the 05 is missing one or two wheel caps that go over the rim, and the 04's interior looks a little more used (not sure if its cuz the 04 is inside and the flash on the camera brings out the worst)

lavo

no ones an infiniti dealer in NYC and the other is a honda/volkswagon dealer in maryland, both cars are in good condition

the 05 is missing one or two wheel caps that go over the rim, and the 04's interior looks a little more used (not sure if its cuz the 04 is inside and the flash on the camera brings out the worst)

2005

2004

ggesq

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2005.

DMZ

The 2005 seats have better leather with additional stitching and slightly firmer padding. I personally like the Acura emblem on the 2005's steering wheel.
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KeithL

2005, the 04 was year one, too many squeaks and rattles and there was even a tranny TSB. Funny 05 was the only year 3G I have not owned. I had 04, 06 and 07 then just got a 08 Type-S. Personally I find the 06 to be the best built, virtually had no issues or anything.

lavo

are those things worth an extra 1600 you think?

this is a 6mt was there tranny problems with the manuals too??

SixSpeed07

2004 with center caps or 2005 without the center caps and floor mats OK...

Have you checked the KBB value of both yet?

SixSpeed07

Too late to edit previous post... so...

Is it just me, or does it seem like you're getting a better deal for the 05? The page shows the 04 for $19,995 and the 05 for $24,995? From what you're telling us is that, the "2004 is $25700 after tax title and tags" and the "2005 is $27300"

Maybe there's more to it that what i can see from my end?

Maybe you can get them to drop the price of the 05 a little more?

lavo

the 04 is 19995 "+" i love these 2995 down payment, so its 23k...

i mentioned 05 has no center caps because thats kinda stupid, that someone never put them back on. i might try to talk the 05 down some more, but they are both firm.

darksom1

It's a no-brainer dude, get the car with the fewer miles (by per year usage average). It's the same car, so why not the best car? Both NBP, else whichever one was that is the clear favorite! Get the 04!!!!!

lavo

thanks for the insight, thats the better deal, but im worried about the 04 "problems" This is going to be my baby for at least 3 years, and i want her to run good/and have no probs from day 1, so when i mod im not throwing the money away if its a bad car.

lavo

bump, for more opinions.

JD TL-S

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Stay away from 04. Buy a new 07.

lavo

i dont have 30k to spend on a car, im a college student and i pay for all my college up front.

lavo

good response on the poll, but would like more comments on why you chose what you did...im hearing only early model 04's are having the problems...this 04 was a late model i believe, sold in dec 04. im calling both dealerships today, to see what the financing of the 04 would be, to see whats missing on the 05 and to see how the tires are on both cars and more on the condition. then i will try and negotiate on the 05, if they dont move and everythings good on the 04, im gonna go with that...I think.

lavo

bump for more opinions...my last thread about the TL that was all beat up, people were responding like crazy, now no one wants to help

camporealer

Go for the '05. I don't trust a seller that quotes a lowball price without the "Down Payment"

tl_dinhsum84

goo with an 05 its newer and the 04 has the mosts problems with them!!

lembowski

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Why does everyone say 04's have all these problems? I've had mine for 2 years without any issues. I've road in 06's that have more rattles them mine. Sure there have been issues, but Acura warranties these issues.........

lavo

elaborate which issues? covered/not covered


Remember im in somewhat of a tight budget, and 1500 more for a car with more miles is quite a bit...still workin on a deal, both are good.

TzarChasm

I have a real question about the "must be financed" in big letters. I'm guessing what they are saying is it must be financed by them. In which case they could give you a really crappy rate which might run down that $1600 rather quickly. You say the '07 wouldnt have to be financed? Is that because of the $ you already have? Or because it dosn't have to be financed by them? If you have the cash, it's a no brainer, you dont want payments if you don't have to. If you are going to finance either way, you might want to look around a little at what kind of rates you can get and what kind of rates the '04 dealer is going to charge you. You might find that with a better rate, the '05 is the cheaper car.

Igor911

My friend has a 2004 NBP in excellent cond. Fully loaded w/ navi 6mt He wants 21.500 for it. Car is located in MD also, PM me if interested

lavo

im in talks with them to see what rate im going to get, he said "the top tier" w/e that means is the rate...i have the cash, but i will get a loan through family and pay roughly 5-6% so they dont have to pay taxes on gains and i get a better rate. once he tells me the rate (tomorrow) ill make my decision, im not a big fan of the dealer for the 04 ...

anyway another twist to it, the 2005 warranty expires 2 months b4 the 04, it was an early 05 model compared to a late 04 model...so thats another point for the 04...and the 05 DOES come with floor mats and center caps.

lavo

wont the 7 yr 100k mile warranty fully cover the Tranny and other engine problems??? so shouldnt i not worry about that, as im only keeping the car for 3-4 yrs, that will make it expire late 2011.

lavo

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wont the 6 yr 70k mile warranty fully cover the Tranny and other engine problems??? that will make it expire late 2010. if something goes wrong after that i'll just suck it up and pay or it will be sold around 2010-2011.

lavo

UPDATE: 2005 is now 24,500 +tax title and tags. so in total about 1000 more than the 04

ARX-01b

iTrader: (1)

If you are on a tight budget the tires and brakes are going to eat you up, especailly if you go with 18's. I'd plan on budgeting $1k per year of ownership for rubber and Brembo brake parts. If money is going to be that tight get a TSX.

lavo

well im used to spending money on brakes, i dont drive all that much, maybe 10-12k a year, so im guessing brakes last 12-24k miles, or am i off...how much are brakes?

tires, well from november/december-march april ill have my 17s on with cheap winter tires...thats not a concern with me, i plan on modding, so i expect to spend a couple g's a year on the car, but i want to start off right as im a good financial planner.

lavo

I should know by today which one im getting, i will also have interest rates and total costs. thanks for the help, but keep opinions coming!!

McKulit

Did you test drive any of these vehicle? It sounds like everything you did was over the phone. I think it's imperative that you give it a whirl before you decide which one to go for.

BTW, I was looking at that 04 from the Infiniti dealership. It was ok. We decided not to get it coz my wife didn't want the manual tranny.

I ended up getting an 04 with Auto tranny and the built in Navi from Pennington, NJ which was close to my house.

Good Luck with the purchase.

lavo

you looked at the car??
when? its been on hold for me since thursday...how did it drive? condition?? im going to test drive one b4 i actually get it of course.

McKulit

I looked at it last week Wednesday at 6PM after I got off work. It's cosmetically good but I didn't spend too much time with the car like I would normally do when buying cars. While I was driving it I called the wifey and said I found a great car ... blah blah ... then she asked ... is it automatic ... I said no, but honey it's awesome ... she said .... I'm changing the locks to the house ... and that's when I went back to the dealership and said thanks I can't buy the car hahaha .... you think it's funny? No it really happened

For all you out there who thinks I'm a sissy for letting my wife push me like that ...... you know what?? You know what???? Yeah I am.

ggesq

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You might want to test drive both- that will most likely help you in deciding between the two. Don't wait and make a decision simply based on pricing and then discover it drives like crap.

lavo

im not, but i'd rather pick the better one, go and drive it, if i dont like it then ill go look at the other one...for now its either one or none, because if i request my 500 dollar deposit on the 04 back there is no way they will hold it for me again. the 05 salesman is WAY better, so i might go through him, plus no hidden fees like the infiniti dealer.